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Old July 18th, 2013, 07:50 PM   #281
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Don't know about Sweden or the rest of Europe, but Norway does indeed use a yellow centerline. This only applies to two-way traffic on the same strip of pavement; divided highways use all white lines.

Also worth noting is that the Irish usage of yellow edge lines is similar to the American way of doing it, as it keeps yellow always on your left.
Only Norway and Finland uses yellow center line. Sweden as with rest of Europe uses white only. In Sweden you never see any yellow paint.

Yellow center line is 500000 times better than white!!!!
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Old July 18th, 2013, 09:20 PM   #282
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In Italy yellow lines are used to mark the special lanes, used for buses or bikes.



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Old July 18th, 2013, 10:20 PM   #283
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Sweden used to have yellow center lines but changed it when Sweden went from left hand traffic to right hand traffic.
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Old July 18th, 2013, 10:25 PM   #284
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^ Wasn't everything painted in yellow? I dislike when pedestrian crosswalks are painted in yellow. I know Switzerland does that. It's good Sweden switched to right side traffic.

It is idiotic that countries do not paint yellow for center divided lines. When I was in Sweden, I was confused and did not know whether it was one or two way street.
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Old July 18th, 2013, 10:32 PM   #285
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In 1971 the U.S. MUTCD mandated the use of Yellow center divided line for safety and better visibility reason, and far less confusion. Also because Yellow was the standard color for warning signs.
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Old July 19th, 2013, 12:19 PM   #286
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^ Wasn't everything painted in yellow? I dislike when pedestrian crosswalks are painted in yellow. I know Switzerland does that. It's good Sweden switched to right side traffic.

It is idiotic that countries do not paint yellow for center divided lines. When I was in Sweden, I was confused and did not know whether it was one or two way street.
I spent a year in the US 1992-93. I almost found it hilarious how Americans know how terrific everything is in the States, without having seen a bit of the peripheral world. http://www.ritholtz.com/blog/2009/11...-to-americans/ Tell me something about accidental rates and traffic casualty rates in the US compared so say, Sweden, where you couldnīt distuinguish one way streets from two-way traffic roads.

The American System in traffic design is to presume that everybody is dumb. The traffic environment and information system has a design which allows you to drive without any knowledge. No wonder, Driverīs Ed is joke. If you happen to do something stupid, a lawsuit will ruin you. Bad luck. But as an American youīre right. Americans, and obviously YOU in particular, certainly is in need of yellow center divided lines.
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As a Norwegian, I've grown up with yellow central divider lines and I actually find them useful. Not because I find it particularly difficult to drive where the lines are white, but the yellow ones are marginally easier to see on winter roads and they also represent an extremely simple, free-of-charge aid to drivers unfamiliar with the given section of road. Again, this is by no means a vital thing and it's certainly to do with habit, but still, I like them and think they're useful.
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Old July 20th, 2013, 03:53 AM   #288
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In Brazil Yellow its used to central divider line anjd no parking line.


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But same way its always white.

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Old July 23rd, 2013, 11:21 AM   #289
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Europe don't need yellow lines because their drivers have good lane discipline.
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Old July 23rd, 2013, 10:41 PM   #290
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I spent a year in the US 1992-93. I almost found it hilarious how Americans know how terrific everything is in the States, without having seen a bit of the peripheral world. http://www.ritholtz.com/blog/2009/11...-to-americans/ Tell me something about accidental rates and traffic casualty rates in the US compared so say, Sweden, where you couldnīt distuinguish one way streets from two-way traffic roads.

The American System in traffic design is to presume that everybody is dumb. The traffic environment and information system has a design which allows you to drive without any knowledge. No wonder, Driverīs Ed is joke. If you happen to do something stupid, a lawsuit will ruin you. Bad luck. But as an American youīre right. Americans, and obviously YOU in particular, certainly is in need of yellow center divided lines.
Rest of North and South America, including Thailand, Norway and Finland uses yellow center line... Are they all dumb? Yellow is easier still.
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Europe don't need yellow lines because their drivers have good lane discipline.
Has nothing to do with having good driver discipline. Don't make it more difficult for people.
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I spent a year in the US 1992-93. I almost found it hilarious how Americans know how terrific everything is in the States, without having seen a bit of the peripheral world. http://www.ritholtz.com/blog/2009/11...-to-americans/ Tell me something about accidental rates and traffic casualty rates in the US compared so say, Sweden, where you couldnīt distuinguish one way streets from two-way traffic roads.

The American System in traffic design is to presume that everybody is dumb. The traffic environment and information system has a design which allows you to drive without any knowledge. No wonder, Driverīs Ed is joke. If you happen to do something stupid, a lawsuit will ruin you. Bad luck. But as an American youīre right. Americans, and obviously YOU in particular, certainly is in need of yellow center divided lines.
The Northeastern states are rolling out complete streets in most towns and all cities so things are getting more and more complex. There narrowing wider streets and roads with a combination of bike lanes and sidewalks , adding roundabouts about lighter used dangerous intersections , adding tree strips along certain speeding stretches....full barrier railroad intersections , longer pedestrians signals...and a few other misc things which have brought down the accident rate by half in certain areas. Theres been a recent push to accelerate the plans in the wake of some horrific accidents...it seems to be happening for the cities.
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Why to confuse drivers with yellow divider line? Despite of worse visibility in bad weather conditions, it is less visible even at night as well. In most of European countries, yellow lane means stopping and parking restrictions.
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Why to confuse drivers with yellow divider line? Despite of worse visibility in bad weather conditions, it is less visible even at night as well. In most of European countries, yellow lane means stopping and parking restrictions.
I fail to see how a yellow center line is "confusing". White may be marginally more visible at night, but visibility really depends more on how old the paint is than whether it's yellow or white. Yellow is more visible in partially snow covered roads.

In Norway there was a proposal in the late 90s to change to white center line, and the main argument for it was that it would save money (less complexity=cost savings). The proposal was turned down at the political level due to opposition from traffic safety organizations and the general public. The cost thing is really the only valid argument I can see in favor of all white.
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Why to confuse drivers with yellow divider line? Despite of worse visibility in bad weather conditions, it is less visible even at night as well. In most of European countries, yellow lane means stopping and parking restrictions.
Are you joking? Yellow is very visible at night!
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I fail to see how a yellow center line is "confusing". White may be marginally more visible at night, but visibility really depends more on how old the paint is than whether it's yellow or white. Yellow is more visible in partially snow covered roads.

In Norway there was a proposal in the late 90s to change to white center line, and the main argument for it was that it would save money (less complexity=cost savings). The proposal was turned down at the political level due to opposition from traffic safety organizations and the general public. The cost thing is really the only valid argument I can see in favor of all white.
Why would Norway switch to white? So crazy, idiotic and confusing.
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Why would Norway switch to white? So crazy, idiotic and confusing.
Maybe to match Sweden? I don't think anyone who isn't used to yellow finds white confusing. I've never heard of anyone finding white confusing. Many things confused me when learning to drive - the colour of the road marking wasn't one of them.
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^ Wasn't everything painted in yellow? I dislike when pedestrian crosswalks are painted in yellow. I know Switzerland does that. It's good Sweden switched to right side traffic.

It is idiotic that countries do not paint yellow for center divided lines. When I was in Sweden, I was confused and did not know whether it was one or two way street.
One would assume a street was two way unless there were signs saying one way... Personally I find yellow centre dividing lines look a little bit odd and unappealing visually. That's just because I'm not used to them.
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in Italy sometimes appear yellow lines even without special situations. check out the picture
This because in Italy made the things in the worst way...
In Italy the yellow line indicated road words (same than rest EU nations), or reserved lane... In this photo there was a road work that was finished but at the end wasn't replaced the line with white...
However, in the old italian Highway code (1957-1992) yellow line was used to limited the border of the road (now white), and there wasn't line for road works (introduced with new highway code of 1992)
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