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Old November 13th, 2012, 05:20 PM   #481
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I experienced awful situations in China, when people were spiting on the floor in airports, stations and even on the city buses, but this is unbelievable!
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Old November 14th, 2012, 05:16 PM   #482
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It's even more annoying when mainlanders do it in Hong Kong.
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Old November 15th, 2012, 03:54 AM   #483
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It hapens too in Shanghai Peeing/spitting on street. The problem is there're 50% of rural population swarming into the cities many of whom know none of the behavior code. It's getting better with urbanization process but still may take one or two generaion's time to be on par with developed areas.
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Old November 15th, 2012, 07:09 PM   #484
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Or you can learn from Singapore tough fine system and make things improve much faster.
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Old March 9th, 2013, 07:07 AM   #485
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What was the annual ridership for 2012?

Guangzhou metro had 1.64 billion riders in 2011 and New York had 1.644 billion so Guangzhou should have overtaken it by now I think.
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Old March 10th, 2013, 09:54 AM   #486
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When does line 6 open?
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Old March 10th, 2013, 11:10 AM   #487
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What was the annual ridership for 2012?

Guangzhou metro had 1.64 billion riders in 2011 and New York had 1.644 billion so Guangzhou should have overtaken it by now I think.
1.82 billion in 2012

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Old March 10th, 2013, 11:11 AM   #488
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When does line 6 open?
Line 6 phase I will open in December 2013.
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Old March 25th, 2013, 07:11 AM   #489
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Xunfenggang Station - future terminus of Line 6







source: http://gz.fangdr.com/news/201303/1363245508823.html
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Old April 3rd, 2013, 03:10 AM   #491
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What's with Guangzhou? metro expansion seems a bit slow... for a Chinese city. Wasn't line 7 and 13 supposed to finish by 2015? Its 2013 and they still have yet to start construction.
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Old April 4th, 2013, 05:20 PM   #492
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What's with Guangzhou? metro expansion seems a bit slow... for a Chinese city. Wasn't line 7 and 13 supposed to finish by 2015? Its 2013 and they still have yet to start construction.
Line 7 has been started in some locations. It is a little slow, but actually I believe it is one of the easier lines to build.

Line 13 is the one to be worried about. I have no idea why they continue to be so slow with this line, and reading the Ditiezu forums, the Chinese have no idea either. I really want that Dongguan connection, so I really do hope they get moving.

The last few years have been really slow, but it seems they are putting in a realistic plan to make progress by 2016.

By 2016:
Line 3 Baiyun North station
Phase 2 Line 6
Line 7
Line 8 extension
Line 9

Goal is before 2016, but not fully realistic:
Line 4 extension
Line 13
Line 14
Line 21

Probably will be scrapped or modified heavily with a very late completion by 2020:
Line 11

The Ministry is usually quick to approve these projects once the EIA reports are completed so if they can find workers, I think this schedule is doable. The eastward expansion is most important to the city to relieve pressure of further urbanization on the center of the city, so I see 4, 14 and 21 hitting their target dates. My guess is Line 11 might be pushed back or delayed because of how complicated and expensive it is to build.

Line 6 is sorely needed for some hard to reach locations, but will likely be overcapacity on day 1, which will just create more bottlenecks in the system. Line 6 only is running 4 trains, and the timetables are completely unrealistic during rush hours. Line 6 was designed to be completed years ago before there was a housing development boom, so expected ridership has nearly doubled compared to the original documents. Honestly, I think Line 6 is only going to make things worse, even if it adds some convenience for it's Yuexiu District stops along the Pearl River.. The city center badly needs the proposed line 10 but it is still only in the long-term plan. All the new lines are bringing more people into the center, instead of spreading them out because development is slow outside of the center districts. Line 10, 12, and 13 west extension are much more important than line 11, 14 and 21, but the guys with the big pocket books are helping fund their project ghost cities with a guaranteed subway line.
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Old April 5th, 2013, 01:46 AM   #493
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What was the annual ridership for 2012?

Guangzhou metro had 1.64 billion riders in 2011 and New York had 1.644 billion so Guangzhou should have overtaken it by now I think.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Metro_s...assenger_rides

Guangzhou Metro (including FMetro) 1.825 billion in 2012
New York City Subway 1.665 billion in 2012

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Old April 24th, 2013, 12:40 PM   #494
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Couple quick updates for those who keep track...

Line 13 is now under construction. Many sites have become enclosed construction, and equipment is being moved onsite. It really seems to be moving along, now that work on Line 6 is becoming more cosmetic and electrical and less engineering now.

The tunnel on Line 6 Phase 1 is fully completed as of today. They should have no problem making their opening date, which currently is Dec 31st this year. In fact, barring no demolition issues on the construction in Shahe station, they could likely be ready by October. Shahe will not be opening with the first phase, and another station, Yide Lu may not be ready in time and will open a few weeks late, or a couple months after the opening, but they are not slowing down progress in anyway which is excellent news. Both will be fly stations till they are ready.

This link goes to Ditiezu, okczhaha has a nice photo update of a few Line 6 stations, all in Chinese of course. You may need to login or create an account, but I don't have permission to post the photos here.
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Old July 14th, 2013, 02:51 PM   #495
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Old July 24th, 2013, 07:05 AM   #496
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I'm in Guangzhou, finally. Currently in a train on line 3. Didn't know the distances between stations are so long! Sometimes it takes up to 8-10 minutes, and the train runs fast.
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Old July 24th, 2013, 11:39 AM   #497
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4-car trains? It sound like a suburban train. I wonder what were the planners were thinking? Maybe the design was completed 10 years ago. It should be made into 8 or 10 car train while it is still under construction. It will be more costly in the future to expand the subway stations to accomodate longer trains.
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Old July 24th, 2013, 10:38 PM   #498
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4-car trains? It sound like a suburban train. I wonder what were the planners were thinking? Maybe the design was completed 10 years ago. It should be made into 8 or 10 car train while it is still under construction. It will be more costly in the future to expand the subway stations to accomodate longer trains.
What are you talking about? The only "metro" line that uses four car train is Line 4 which is essentially a suburban rail line (along with Guangzhou-Foshan line).
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Old July 25th, 2013, 12:22 AM   #499
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What are you talking about? The only "metro" line that uses four car train is Line 4 which is essentially a suburban rail line (along with Guangzhou-Foshan line).
He is referring to Line 6 which can only support 4 car BL size trains (B size loading gauges but shorter ~17m per car. Line 6 will run through some really dense central urban neighborhoods so it will be over capacity from day one. They should have built it to 8 cars like the Toei Oedo line since they both use similar technology from the same manufacturer.
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I liked APM line yesterday much.
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