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Old September 8th, 2006, 12:17 PM   #81
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hmmm i dont agree

i would love a tower in the corner of the site with the ring road and the railway but this is a major conservation area.... if th coservation wasnt there, we'd regret it....

however, such an expensive sit, we are going to get something very top notch, even if not top height
Would the Council REALLY have considered building a bus station on land that is "Conservation Area"??!!
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Old November 20th, 2006, 03:35 PM   #82
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Good news. Sites secured a buyer again. mixed use scheme by Dandara (arena central) with new public square.

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Could be the site of yet another 40+ storey tower for the city?
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Old November 20th, 2006, 04:05 PM   #84
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Good news. Sites secured a buyer again. mixed use scheme by Ramada (arena central) with new public square.
Don't you mean Dandara?
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Old November 20th, 2006, 04:27 PM   #85
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Don't you mean Dandara?
Yes, it's Dandara.
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Old November 20th, 2006, 05:13 PM   #86
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Yep. sorry. they sound alike and I had a bit of trouble with them on friday so there robably still in my mind.
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Old November 20th, 2006, 09:11 PM   #87
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Could be the site of yet another 40+ storey tower for the city?
Not really. This area has a height limit but I dont think it will go higher than Orion. Though the article on this did mention a residential tower...
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Old November 22nd, 2006, 02:05 PM   #88
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Not really. This area has a height limit but I dont think it will go higher than Orion. Though the article on this did mention a residential tower...
Could go higher, this area doesn't form part of the central ridge.
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Old November 22nd, 2006, 03:27 PM   #89
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Abstract and Dandara to develop Birmingham site

Birmingham City Council has selected a joint venture between Abstract Land and Dandara for the Great Charles Street site in Birmingham

The council announced today that the pair will replace HBG Properties, which was appointed as preferred developer for the 2-acre (0.8ha) Great Charles Street site in June.

As tipped by Property Week last week, Abstract and Dandara beat competition from two other bidders for the site. It will develop about 300,000 sq ft (27,870 sq m) of office space on the site.

Regeneration chief councillor Ken Hardman, said: ‘We were obviously disappointed that HBG did not deliver what they offered. But we knew it wouldn’t be a major problem because we had other interested parties waiting in the wings.’
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But it is part of the Conservation area, I think that's more the problem.
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There is no way a tower of more than 12 storeys will be built here, between the Council House & Birmingham Cathedral.
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Old November 22nd, 2006, 03:43 PM   #92
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Yeah but at least we will no longer have waste land in the heart of the city, that has always annoyed me
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There is no way a tower of more than 12 storeys will be built here, between the Council House & Birmingham Cathedral.
Are you confusing this with the Natwest Thread FLD?
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Are you confusing this with the Natwest Thread FLD?
Yes I am, sorry Bio & Royal!
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Could go higher, this area doesn't form part of the central ridge.
Which is actually a bad thing because the council are usually very supportive of highrises on the central ridge. They seem to only support off-central ridge developments if they will significantly boost the regeneration in the area such as the Pinnacle. But then, I think the council will be supportive of this as they have been so heavily involved in finding a developer.
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They need to do the foot bridge up too. This development could be stonking if they're prepared to put their hands in their pockets. Its prime land with good road and rail links. They could also tidy up a couple of the other building around this site eg next to Maxium. Does this deal include the land on the otherside ie where the rough diamond was proposed..?
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I think they should do away with the footbridge and sink the Queensway so there is just a local road there and not a trunk road. That is the only proper way to reconnect those parts of town.

Unless they can come up with a large, proper bridge
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They need to do the foot bridge up too. This development could be stonking if they're prepared to put their hands in their pockets. Its prime land with good road and rail links. They could also tidy up a couple of the other building around this site eg next to Maxium. Does this deal include the land on the otherside ie where the rough diamond was proposed..?
I was about to ask that! Thanks RoftheB.

The old AMEC site was just the land between Ludgate Hill & Livery Street. Does anyone know what if anything is planned for the bit on the hill - between Ludgate Hill and Newhall Street?
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I think they should do away with the footbridge and sink the Queensway so there is just a local road there and not a trunk road. That is the only proper way to reconnect those parts of town.

Unless they can come up with a large, proper bridge
This is the planners preffered route actually but, the cost of sinking the road came in at about £50m, so they dont think its feasible. Its a shame because the result was completely integrating the Jewellery Quarter into the Core.
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This is the planners preffered route actually but, the cost of sinking the road came in at about £50m, so they dont think its feasible. Its a shame because the result was completely integrating the Jewellery Quarter into the Core.
Whilst I think that is a bit pricey I think it would have had a massive benefit for both the core and JQ. Both of them are separated in some form and rarely do tourists walk from the city centre to the JQ in the same day. There was/ is some massive potential there.
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