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Old August 11th, 2013, 02:16 PM   #581
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Metro construction - current situation (blue dotted lines - tunels still to be constructed)

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Old August 11th, 2013, 02:47 PM   #582
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Wow I am amazed at the rate of progress. Already the tunnels are done at the western and eastern ends of the metro second line I am sure the tunnels in the central section of the line will come along nicely soon

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Old August 11th, 2013, 05:21 PM   #583
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I think Warsaw Subway needs 6 more lines.....
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Old August 11th, 2013, 06:55 PM   #584
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What for? I think normal buses work much better for a city like Warsaw, not very dense but with many developments sprawling in former rural areas far from the city center. We already have rather extensive bus & tram network and it works quite fine, there's no guarantee that enough people would switch to metro even if we somehow have the money to build it.
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Old August 11th, 2013, 10:32 PM   #585
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What for? I think normal buses work much better for a city like Warsaw, not very dense but with many developments sprawling in former rural areas far from the city center. We already have rather extensive bus & tram network and it works quite fine, there's no guarantee that enough people would switch to metro even if we somehow have the money to build it.
It's only my opinion, Warsaw has almost 2.000.000 inhabitants....
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Old August 11th, 2013, 10:40 PM   #586
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I think Warsaw Subway needs 6 more lines.....
This isn’t London or New York. Fast urban trains, trams and buses do a great job.
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Old August 12th, 2013, 03:01 AM   #587
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It's only my opinion, Warsaw has almost 2.000.000 inhabitants....
In reality it's probably closer to 3 milion but still 6 lines are hard to imagine.
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Old August 12th, 2013, 03:59 AM   #588
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Not sure why some people on here are against subway systems. Planning for the future is important. London's subway system first opened in 1863, when the population was just over 3 million people. Besides, buses pollute the environment. And I have never seen a street car (tram) fit more people than a subway train.
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Old August 12th, 2013, 08:57 PM   #589
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In reality it's probably closer to 3 milion but still 6 lines are hard to imagine.
Well, not six lines but three. Work is done for tendering of the next stations of line 2 further east and west. Also eastern part of planned line 3 to Goclawek seems to be important. But as what I can see there is no plan to have two branches (Tarchomin/Goclawek) but to have separate lines.

Besides that Warsaw has an urban-rail sysem with potentials.

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Old August 13th, 2013, 10:22 AM   #590
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3 lines are optimum.
We have SKM, WKD, KM trains and a big tram network. All needs to be upgrated & developed.
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Old August 13th, 2013, 10:46 AM   #591
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Not sure why some people on here are against subway systems. Planning for the future is important. London's subway system first opened in 1863, when the population was just over 3 million people. Besides, buses pollute the environment. And I have never seen a street car (tram) fit more people than a subway train.
Modern metro lines today carry a lot more people than old wooden carts in tunnels did in 1863.

But essentially I do agree with you. Warsaw would benefit from more lines. They're a worthy investment, especially if you develop property along the lines.
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Old August 25th, 2013, 01:00 PM   #592
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Inspiro trains in Warsaw :

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Imho, from what I saw at the Innotrans last year the view for the driver into the tunnel is very narrow compared to other metro-trains. You don´t see much aout what´s going on at the platform if you rush into the station.

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Old August 25th, 2013, 08:35 PM   #594
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When will we see some of the new Inspiro trains operating on line 1? Is there a firm date when they will be put into service? Yes the driver's view is miniscule compared to other metro trains currently being used on Warsaw's metro

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Old August 26th, 2013, 07:32 AM   #595
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They are now during final tests on 1st line (at night, without passangers) and the drivers are learning them. They were said to start normal operating in September, but there were some delays and most possible date is October/November.
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Old August 26th, 2013, 09:21 AM   #596
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Not sure why some people on here are against subway systems. Planning for the future is important. London's subway system first opened in 1863, when the population was just over 3 million people. Besides, buses pollute the environment. And I have never seen a street car (tram) fit more people than a subway train.
Subway is polluting environment too, when electricity is obtained from the coal.
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Old August 26th, 2013, 10:09 AM   #597
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Subway is polluting environment too, when electricity is obtained from the coal.
Everything pollutes environment, but modern coal plants+subway produce less pollution then buses per pass*km.
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Old August 26th, 2013, 10:33 AM   #598
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Less than CNG Hybrid buses too?
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Old August 29th, 2013, 01:28 PM   #599
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Inspiro trains in Warsaw :

Do you know how many train-sets of the ordered 35 have arrived so far? And what is the scheduled arrival date of the last train-set?
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Subway is polluting environment too, when electricity is obtained from the coal.
It's only a matter of time before the EU bans the burning of coal completely. It won't happen this decade, but it will happen eventually.
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