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mercury city tower 12 20.00%
eurasia 9 15.00%
city of capitals 14 23.33%
naberezhnaya 10 16.67%
triumph palace 7 11.67%
saphire 9 15.00%
moscow state university 14 23.33%
imperia tower 9 15.00%
palace of culture and science 11 18.33%
mosfilmovskaya 10 16.67%
warsaw trade tower 7 11.67%
hotel ukraine 8 13.33%
anthill residence 3 5.00%
varyap towers 8 13.33%
zlota 44 16 26.67%
antey 3 5 8.33%
rondo 1 10 16.67%
gulliver building 4 6.67%
flame towers 16 26.67%
isbank tower 5 8.33%
sparrow hills 4 6.67%
edelweiss 4 6.67%
kotelnicheskaya 6 10.00%
aliye parusa (scarlet sails) 3 5.00%
avaz twist tower 6 10.00%
ministry of foreign affairs 11 18.33%
nordstar 5 8.33%
sisli plaza 4 6.67%
tekstilkent plaza 5 8.33%
swissotel krasnye 4 6.67%
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Old August 23rd, 2013, 02:33 PM   #21
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Real E. Europe countries with almost all characteristics of E. Europe, or some exceptions, are: Macedonia, Albania, Serbia, Montenegro, Bosnia and Herzegovina, Croatia, Slovenia, Armenia, Georgia, Azerbaijan, Moldova, Bulgaria, Romania, Ukraine, Belarus, Poland; (the great Eastern European context - Northern Europe) Lithuania, Latvia, Estonia; (the great Eastern European context - Central Europe) Slovenia, Czech Republic, Slovakia, Hungary, sometimes Poland.

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Old August 23rd, 2013, 06:53 PM   #22
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Turkey is more South European country, than East European. As usual in SE, it has heavy Middle Eastern influence. And almoust nothing common with EE.

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Old August 23rd, 2013, 07:27 PM   #23
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Read it more carefully. I write that Turkey is Eurasian country NOT European, like Russia too. OK.
Russia is Eurasian also. But in the context of this thread Russia is EE country.
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Turkey and Russia are only geographical Eurasian countries. Cultural, hystorical, political and economic are European countries.
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Wrocław doesn't count as Eastern Europe?
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THIS THREAD INCORRECT AND MISLEADING. IT HAS TO BE REDONE.
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Real E. Europe countries with almost all characteristics of E. Europe, or some exceptions, are: Macedonia, Albania, Serbia, Montenegro, Bosnia and Herzegovina, Croatia, Slovenia, Armenia, Georgia, Azerbaijan, Moldova, Bulgaria, Romania, Ukraine, Belarus, Poland; (the great Eastern European context - Northern Europe) Lithuania, Latvia, Estonia; (the great Eastern European context - Central Europe) Slovenia, Czech Republic, Slovakia, Hungary, sometimes Poland.
Where did you see any map where Czech Republic, Slovakia and Hungary are considered Central Europe, but Poland Eastern Europe? Geographically a big part of Poland is more "western" than Hungary and Slovakia, economically we are on the same level or slightly better than Hungarians.
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You are right, and it's coming from Poland's eastern neighbour .

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THIS THREAD INCORRECT AND MISLEADING. IT HAS TO BE REDONE.
please....give me sugestions and I will do again a new thread and I ask to moderator to delete the old one..
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You are right, and it's coming from Poland's eastern neighbour .
l have to corect you - north neighbour.
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please....give me sugestions and I will do again a new thread and I ask to moderator to delete the old one..
Put some tallest buildings of East Europe countries, that l mentioned before.

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Where did you see any map where Czech Republic, Slovakia and Hungary are considered Central Europe, but Poland Eastern Europe? Geographically a big part of Poland is more "western" than Hungary and Slovakia, economically we are on the same level or slightly better than Hungarians.
lm talking about much larger context.
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Where did you see any map where Czech Republic, Slovakia and Hungary are considered Central Europe, but Poland Eastern Europe? Geographically a big part of Poland is more "western" than Hungary and Slovakia, economically we are on the same level or slightly better than Hungarians.
Well, for instance United Nations geoscheme for Europe. Also, others UN docs/maps state/predicate that. Although all those "separations" are kinda doubtful, because there are no one and the only clearly confirmed classification of states by regions.

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You are right, and it's coming from Poland's eastern neighbour .
Since when Lithuania is in Eastern Europe? Neither geographically, nor genetically, culturally, linguistically, mentally - Lithuania do not belong to EE. Tall, blue-eyed, white face liths..
The term EE can be applied only in case when we are talking about former ex-soviet/communist history (what is popular amongst, i.e GB media) - then it might be. But it come only from political history.
Even though - since Norther Crusade and even in later (XVII century) lands of present-day Lithuania had been considered as a North.
North element as such also was and at the moment - is very significant in cultural background of society (see, let's say, balt's mythology and it's links/coherence to finnic/north-germanic ). So i do not see any sense in your statement.
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l have to corect you - north neighbour.

Last time i checked Lithuania was eastern neighbour with the same timezone as Ukraine or Belarus, the same rail gauge, north... there is a Baltic Sea and Kaliningrad Oblast , but Lithuania remains ours eastern neighbour. So yes, Lithuania does have a complex of being so Eastern.
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Well, for instance United Nations geoscheme for Europe. Also, others UN docs/maps state/predicate that. Although all those "separations" are kinda doubtful, because there are no one and the only clearly confirmed classification of states by regions.
Do you understand what I wrote? Show me the map where Poland is Eastern while Czech Rep., Slovakia and Hungary are Central (because RokasLT said that Poland is only "sometimes" central). In this picture all those 4 countries are Eastern.

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Since when Lithuania is in Eastern Europe? Neither geographically, nor genetically, culturally, linguistically, mentally - Lithuania do not belong to EE. Tall, blue-eyed, white face liths..
The same with Poland, Lithuanian culture was from 15th to 19th century strongly connected with Poland, how can be in "different" Europes? Geographically, genetically, culturally, mentally we aren't eastern (if eastern means "Russian"). In the history all "western" trends always were coming to Lithuania from Poland, since your catholic baptism. Your language is more similar to Slavic than to Germanic languages (because of Balto-Slavic language community in the past). Your culture was influenced by Polish, while Latvian was influenced by German.

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Even though - since Norther Crusade and even in later (XVII century) lands of present-day Lithuania had been considered as a North.
By who? In 17th century Lithuania was a part of Rzeczpospolita, I wonder who considered it north. I know that Lithuanians used to find their ancestors in ancient Romans, but they came from the south, not north.

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lm talking about much larger context.
In any context Poland doesn't differ from Hungary that much to be counted as "different Europe" than they are. If not, explain this "context" you mean.

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Last time i checked Lithuania was eastern neighbour with the same timezone as Ukraine or Belarus, the same rail gauge, north... there is a Baltic Sea and Kaliningrad Oblast , but Lithuania remains ours eastern neighbour. So yes, Lithuania does have a complex of being so Eastern.
In fact, how Poles consider Lithuania - doesn't matter. Particularly for us. We think about Poland as a religious hell, so what? Does it make any sense? No. Does it re-draw geographically any belonging on smth.? No. Honestly, perhaps majority of lithuanians thinks about poles as more eastern, but that is because you're slavs and in some cases (yes, it not true, but myths are myths - it takes some time..) eastern europe=slavic europe
Tell me, neighbour, how the ... timezone or rail gouge makes Lithuania...Eastern Europe? Eastern neighbour - maybe Belarus? Lithuania is in the North and mostly all who have a bit more knowledge in lithuanian cultural aspects agree on that. Is not very difficult to find out information and only then make conclusions...I pointed out some criteria that describes us. and no time zone or rail gouge here is important...
The are no complex of being eastern. As i have sad, neither 100 years ago,nor now dont have any imagination of ourselves as easterners. If you are interested, please, you can check some data even from XIII century or read your beloved Dlugozch.
I would say - lithuanians are very straightforward persons and it is obvious why we like clear statements without any "since Adome and Eve...bla bla shit".
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Last time i checked Lithuania was eastern neighbour with the same timezone as Ukraine or Belarus, the same rail gauge, north... there is a Baltic Sea and Kaliningrad Oblast , but Lithuania remains ours eastern neighbour. So yes, Lithuania does have a complex of being so Eastern.
Since when the time zone, rail gauge (soon all will be replaced with "European" ones) determines country's geographic location, not talking about culture ect. LOL

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geography_of_Lithuania

MAN LEAR SOME TOPOGRAPHY AND GEOGRAPHY. IT'S SIMPLE: LOOK AT THE MAP, IF YOU HAVE ONE, NORTH GOES UP (N^); EAST GOES RIGHT (E>) - WHERE UKRAIN IS LOCATED, FROM POLAND SIDE.

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Lithuania is located North-East from Poland. Some parts of it are northern for Poland, some parts are eastern. It's the best choice I think.
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