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Old August 25th, 2013, 03:24 PM   #21
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not very much impressive from the point of view of cool photos, but feels to be very convenient for the citizens of Oslo.
Are there any special facilities for winter? Winters are pretty cold there
I'm not sure what special facilities for the winter you are thinking of. You will probably be able to use the lake next to it as a ice skating rink but otherwise it is pretty much the same as the rest of the city which functions okay as it is each winter.
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Old August 25th, 2013, 04:10 PM   #22
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not very much impressive from the point of view of cool photos, but feels to be very convenient for the citizens of Oslo.
Are there any special facilities for winter? Winters are pretty cold there
I agree that it's not that impressive looks wise, but you have to take a little bit into consideration what sort of country Norway is. Most things in Norway are built after the scale that fits Norway - that is, of course, small. Only some buildings are bigger.

We are after all a nation of only 5 millions and even slightly in outskirts of the world, much less of a transport hub than for instance Netherlands or the UK/England. The need for more expansive and tall buildings arose late in our history.

In Norway's average scale of things/buildings, these buildings are relatively big and tall.
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I agree that it's not that impressive looks wise, but you have to take a little bit into consideration what sort of country Norway is. Most things in Norway are built after the scale that fits Norway - that is, of course, small. Only some buildings are bigger.

We are after all a nation of only 5 millions and even slightly in outskirts of the world, much less of a transport hub than for instance Netherlands or the UK/England. The need for more expansive and tall buildings arose late in our history.

In Norway's average scale of things/buildings, these buildings are relatively big and tall.
I personally don't find size by itself impressive. Everyone can build large buildings. What I value is rather quality of design, attention to details, relationship to streets and surrounding and human scale.
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Old August 25th, 2013, 04:32 PM   #24
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I personally don't find size by itself impressive. Everyone can build large buildings. What I value is rather quality of design, attention to details, relationship to streets and surrounding and human scale.
I don't disagree.

Like with most things, everything has its pros and cons.
Small scale is better in some respects, large scale is better in other respects.
All I'm saying is that looking globally at it, Oslo is still a relatively small scale city, with some small exception areas. On the other hand, much of for instance Amsterdam city centre is more small scale and with lower buildings than Oslo - so it is a bit relative, I guess.
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not very much impressive from the point of view of cool photos, but feels to be very convenient for the citizens of Oslo.
Are there any special facilities for winter? Winters are pretty cold there
There is a local heat central that will be used by the whole Bjørvika-area. It will be built behind the opera, most likely.
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There is a local heat central that will be used by the whole Bjørvika-area. It will be built behind the opera, most likely.
Are you thinking of this one?



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Can you please explain. Many people speak of the concept "human scale", amongst them Niels Torp have spoken a lot of it. IMO, anything above 1 floor is pretty much above human scale; you can't see over it, and the building will cast a shadow covering the sidewalk alongside it.
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Old August 25th, 2013, 04:58 PM   #28
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Can you please explain. Many people speak of the concept "human scale", amongst them Niels Torp have spoken a lot of it. IMO, anything above 1 floor is pretty much above human scale; you can't see over it, and the building will cast a shadow covering the sidewalk alongside it.
I'm talking about having details on the building which you relate, not just endless blank surfaces. I would say that Tjuvholmen have so far been pretty good at incorporating various "human scales" into the development. It's not about size of the buildings per se, but rather how this size its handled. One floor strip mall for example have usually very little human scale - there it is rather car scale.
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Yeah, that project died. Now I remember...
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Yeah, that project died. Now I remember...
Really? What will come there instead?
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Old August 26th, 2013, 12:00 AM   #31
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Hmmm... Parking like today?
No seriously, I don't know. Hafslund anounced last fall that there wouldn't be a cold-vent. facility there, hence there also wouldn't be a point of building a heating facility for Bjørvika alone (there's lots of left-over capacity at Klemetsrud).
The plot held for the facility initially was part of the reg.plan for "Operaens omgivelser". As you know, Operaens omgivelser was downsized, and the rest will get a new round after Munch-vedtaket.
I doubt we'll see any buildings at this plot. There's already planned a building further out on Bjørvikutstikkeren, at the "Sukkerbiten" location. Most likely it will be "park"/lawn, I guess. I at least hope they will remove the parking lot.



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Syd for Operaen etableres et areal (felt A21) for grøntstruktur (park) og et felt for grøntstruktur (park)
kombinert med bebyggelse og anlegg (felt A10).
I felt A10 kan det oppføres bebyggelse med inntil 1.000 m² BRA og maks. 2 etasjer. Bebyggelsen skal
benyttes til forretning, bevertning og tjenesteyting (kultur, idrett, serviceanlegg for småbåthavn).
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Old September 16th, 2013, 06:21 PM   #32
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Still working on the street ...



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Old September 20th, 2013, 03:51 PM   #33
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Very nice...

Very nice thread with nice pictures and renderings! Looking forward to see more!
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Old September 22nd, 2013, 11:47 PM   #34
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The construction of the main avenue laying directly north of this development (see map):

Looking west:


Looking east:


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Oslo maraton in the streets:


Pictures and comments by Marshol: http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showth...#post107314299
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Old September 26th, 2013, 05:34 AM   #35
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I like this project, it's going to be good for Oslo, but in my opinion too many of the buildings look the same and there's not enough brick.
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Tram tracks being laid down in the avenue:



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The tents belong to a music festival in the park on the other side of the artificial lake.
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Old October 8th, 2013, 02:51 PM   #38
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The road is starting to look nice. Looking forward to see buildings appear next to it.


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