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Old July 2nd, 2013, 05:14 PM   #241
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Nothing seems to be happening. School is over nextdoor so I would think they would start blasting. Anybody know what is happening?
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Old July 2nd, 2013, 08:14 PM   #242
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They're seeking financing.
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Old August 11th, 2013, 10:18 PM   #243
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Any update ???????
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Old September 7th, 2013, 04:14 AM   #244
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maybe this won't be built anymore....
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Old September 7th, 2013, 04:44 AM   #245
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It will.
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Old September 10th, 2013, 05:47 AM   #246
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They signed a deal that paid for the school to be built so Worldwide has every reason to move ahead with this tower to recoup their money or sell the development (at a high price) to someone else. Either way, given the sums involved, this will have to be a large tower.
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Old September 10th, 2013, 11:40 PM   #247
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SOM’s East 57th Street project a matter of perspective: Architecture review
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Getting things built in New York City is rarely a straightforward affair, and the development that is set to rise at 250 East 57th Street is one of the more elusive in recent years.

It consists of two parts: One a recently completed High School of Art and Design, which replaces an earlier incarnation of the same school on the same site, and the other a residential development for which ground has been broken, but which has yet to rise, at the corner of East 57th Street and Second Avenue.

Both halves of the development were designed by Skidmore Owings and Merrill and developed by the World Wide Group, in conjunction with the New York City Educational Construction Fund.

As for the residential development, reports and renderings are so fluid that one hesitates to offer more than the most provisional assessment. The latest renderings that I was able to find — the developer and architect did not respond by press time — reveal a 59-story curtain-walled tower on an expansive base, angled and facetted to form an hourglass configuration.

From the privileged angle of the renderings, that seems like a powerful design idea. The problem that I anticipate, based on other projects inspired by the deconstructivist idiom, is that the building will most often be seen from less favored perspectives. And from those it will likely seem bent out of shape, precisely in order for the structure to stack up impressively from the one privileged perspective that truly concerns the architect. Whether this will be the case with 250 East 57th Street will only be known once the building is completed and that, according to a notice at the construction site, will not be before 2016.

In the meantime, there are reports that changes to the design have made it more curvaceous and less insistently angular. Also, this 59-story, 715-foot tower will have only 270 condo units, 50 fewer than were announced in 2006, when plans for the building were first announced. In truth, given that the building, if it adheres to the new schedule, will have been completed fully 10 years after its designs were first published, it is likely that there was a strong incentive to address the fact that its bold facets and angles seem — as the saying goes — so ten years ago.

Even if we had better renderings, however, there would be reason to doubt their accuracy. The public high school that is part of the development appears, from the renderings, to be boldly volumetric, geometric and also dramatic in its stark contrasts of what is black and white. But the reality is very different. The school is entered on 56th street, while its 57th street fašade at street level is given over to a Whole Foods branch. But the bold volumes of the fašade, as well as the interchange of black and white on the fašade, end up seeming so very pallid and undistinguished.
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Old September 11th, 2013, 02:17 AM   #248
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I was up there last weekend, and demo is completely done.
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Old December 18th, 2013, 03:47 PM   #249
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YIMBY reports: Design has been changed!

Re-Designed: 250 East 57th Street
By: Nikolai Fedak on December 18th 2013 at 6:00 am

old vs new


What a lame box. SLCE is the new architect now (instead of SOM).
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Old December 18th, 2013, 03:59 PM   #250
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Classic New York. When in doubt, turn it into a box.

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Old December 18th, 2013, 04:50 PM   #251
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I think that you're confusing NY with a "city" on the prairie which is building nothing but cheap-looking 500 foot boxes at the moment.

By contrast, NY has Verre, Steinway, 400 PAS, Time Warner, Coach, 1 Vanderbilt, 56 Leonard, BIG's Pyramid, etc. on the horizon.

What city in the US has such a roster? Short answer: none.
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Old December 18th, 2013, 05:15 PM   #252
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I think that you're confusing NY with a "city" on the prairie which is building nothing but cheap-looking 500 foot boxes at the moment.

By contrast, NY has Verre, Steinway, Time Warner, Coach, 1 Vanderbilt, 56 Leonard, etc. on the horizon.
Let us not forget 400 Park Avenue South, Foster's Two World Trade, Bjarke Ingel's Pyramid, and the three new Robert Stern towers (I love Bob Stern) at 30 Park, 220 CPS, and 45 East 60th Street.

There is no doubt about this project. The units will sell.
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Old December 18th, 2013, 05:16 PM   #253
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Classic New York. When in doubt, turn it into a box.
I'm not going to say anything bad about Singapore, because I like the place and am a big fan of Lee Kuan Yew, but you are wrong about New York.
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Old December 18th, 2013, 05:17 PM   #254
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As well as an ocean of boxes. New York is just as boxy as Chicago. It definitely has some great projects going on, but it also has many mediocre and worse projects going up. This is a shameful redesign. It had so much potential.
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Old December 18th, 2013, 05:45 PM   #255
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10+ years ago it may had been true with boxy architecture, but one thing for sure the tide has certainly changed for the better and I see this trend continuing. For this, I am grateful for that.

and to add to Rob's and Lowkey's list, don't forget 15 HY, 35 HY, Girasole and hopefully I could add Nordstrom to that list.

Now in regard to 250 E. 57th, the new design is disappointing. The old one is much much more interesting, but it will be nice to see something finally rise in that part of town with 715ft as its height.
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Old December 18th, 2013, 08:38 PM   #256
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I can't see the image posted /:

And I like the look of Chicago, Rob you need to stop biting at other cities which aren't NY, London or Paris, you come out with some of the best and most informative stuff on here, but at other times you're just rude
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Old December 18th, 2013, 10:06 PM   #257
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Looks decent.
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Old December 18th, 2013, 10:21 PM   #258
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Just click the link.
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Old December 18th, 2013, 10:30 PM   #259
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its not going to be just a box, it'll have a bit of a twist to it, and this is just a diagram.
old vs new, not as good, but there's not much to base that off of.

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Old December 18th, 2013, 10:44 PM   #260
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It will still be nice but really liked the original design.
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