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Old September 4th, 2013, 03:12 AM   #1541
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The best thing about them is that they're this kind of academically classical skyscraper, something that isn't very common even historically. The bulk of the building also presented a challenge, but it was handled very well. It's not just pastiche, that is great architecture.

Carroll Gartin Justice Building, Jackson, Mississippi, USA, 2011

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I was looking for the Federal Courthouse in Tuscaloosa and stumbled upon this. Very impressive, it's true classicism as opposed to Stern-like "traditionalism" (not that I object to the latter). It looks like something out of an alternate reality of my own invention, where new buildings like this are commonplace. The portico strikes me as somewhat undersized, though, but that's not a fault unseen in older buildings. Also, as the last picture shows, it's got that patina that gives it the appearance of a building that was legitimately built 100 years ago. The only thing that belies its youth are the muntin-less windows.
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Old September 4th, 2013, 03:36 AM   #1542
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Schwarzman College, Beijing, China, 2016

















The building is meant to house the Schwartzman Scholars, which are supposed to be a 21st century Sino-American equivalent of the Rhodes Scholars. To that extent, it melds Western and Chinese architectural traditions in a manner reminiscent of chinoiserie, and in a more sophisticated way than the all-too-common "stick a curved roof on it and call it Chinese". It certainly speaks to Robert Stern's versatility.
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I think this is the location.
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Old September 5th, 2013, 05:10 PM   #1544
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This building has perfect proportions. I wish it had a few more embellishments, like some carvings on the triangle area above the columns. I guess architecture today is too politically correct to put some half-naked women on buildings. But for a courthouse it would be nice to see a carving of the blindfolded woman holding a scale.
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Old September 5th, 2013, 05:53 PM   #1545
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This building has perfect proportions. I wish it had a few more embellishments, like some carvings on the triangle area above the columns. I guess architecture today is too politically correct to put some half-naked women on buildings. But for a courthouse it would be nice to see a carving of the blindfolded woman holding a scale.
Didn't stop the Schermerhorn Symphony Center from putting sculpture on its tympanum.

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Old September 5th, 2013, 06:00 PM   #1546
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This building has perfect proportions. I wish it had a few more embellishments, like some carvings on the triangle area above the columns. I guess architecture today is too politically correct to put some half-naked women on buildings. But for a courthouse it would be nice to see a carving of the blindfolded woman holding a scale.
Who knows, they could be added later.
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Old September 5th, 2013, 11:42 PM   #1547
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http://www.flickr.com/photos/8405842@N02/8252962963/

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Old September 6th, 2013, 12:57 AM   #1548
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Old September 6th, 2013, 01:49 AM   #1549
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The undersized portico.
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Old September 7th, 2013, 09:22 PM   #1550
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I was always wondering about something... When somebody builds neoclassical building, how does he decide which classical order to use? I know the difference between Doric, Ionic and Corinthian in aspect of how they look. But is there any difference regarding there usage?
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Architects and writers have weighed in on that topic throughout history. Vitruvius compared the Doric order to a well built man, Ionic to a slender woman, and Corinthian to a girl. You could say that Doric is male, Ionic is asexual, and Corinthian is female. Therefore you can roughly extrapolate which order to use based on the purpose of the building.

To this end, Serlio recommended the Doric order for churches of extroverted male saints, the Ionic order for more introverted and academic saints, and Corinthian for virgin saints, particularly the Virgin Mary.

Sometimes architects keep these opinions in mind, but most of the time budget and taste defines which column gets picked. It's common to see Ionic columns on academic and judicial buildings though, Doric columns on sturdy, solid buildings, and Corinthian buildings when one of the purposes of the building is to impress.
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Old September 9th, 2013, 01:16 AM   #1552
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Is there actually any firm that use designs of destroyed and unbuilt buildings, houses, and builds them at the same place, somewhere? Is there any laws about this?
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Old September 9th, 2013, 11:37 AM   #1553
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Well, most architect's copyrights are expired now. So what legal situation would you refer to?
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Old September 10th, 2013, 04:38 AM   #1554
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I mean, is there any laws nationally, internationally, that prohibit rebuilding destroyed and demolished buildings, is there any support or against groups for rebuilding, reconstruction, and is there any trouble if built not in original country?
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I mean, is there any laws nationally, internationally, that prohibit rebuilding destroyed and demolished buildings, is there any support or against groups for rebuilding, reconstruction, and is there any trouble if built not in original country?
There is Kragsyde, a shingle style house that was demolished and was recently rebuilt as a mirror image of itself. The original house was designed by Peabody & Stearns, and was built in Manchester, Massachusetts; the replica was built on Swan Island, Maine.

from The Downeast Dilettante (thedowneastdilettante.blogspot.com)

from I should be Laughing (ishouldbelaughing.blogspot.com)

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Old September 12th, 2013, 02:18 PM   #1556
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The Touraine in all its completed glory:

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The Touraine NYC by Strykapose, on Flickr

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Old September 12th, 2013, 04:03 PM   #1557
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The clash between classicism and modern tastes is evident in this building. The windows are oversized and disproportionate, but this has less to do with a lack of knowledge of proportions (or so it seems, maybe I'm giving the architect too much credit), rather than the taste for open, airy apartments and correspondingly large windows.
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Taipei is home to several neo-Traditional buildings:

The National Palace Museum



The Chiang Kai-Shek Memorial Hall



The National Concert Hall



The National Theatre

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The Touraine building looks significantly better than most of the '30s filler in NYC.
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