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Old March 22nd, 2007, 12:43 AM   #41
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@nebunul the land propriety issues have been perhaps the No1 obstacle for investments in MK. It's really chaotic, there are still denationalization issues, the kadastre is a mess, land disputes. The judicial system is too sluggish to solve the issues in a reasonable term. Add on that very soft expropriation laws and some peasant mentality. Perfect combination.
The same in RO ... so many projects got delayed because of it. Even the Bucharest historical centre (they’ve just started remedial works on the underground services without digging up - some new technology) ... but the area itself is a ruin now ... with homeless and gypsies living (squatters) in potentially million Euro properties

Anyway the motorway looks great and the fact that will be illuminated throughout its length ... Woowwww
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Old March 22nd, 2007, 12:49 PM   #42
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No but in YU most of the land was and is private owned, it was not like in bulgaria where all land was nationalized. And it makes harder to build anything coz there are so many owners and for some land they don“t even know who is owner or the owner is dead or he/she doesn“t live anymore in state etc.
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Old March 22nd, 2007, 12:49 PM   #43
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how much has been build?
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Old March 22nd, 2007, 03:50 PM   #44
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how much has been build?
What do you mean? Length? I don't think I'm able to measure that. Roughly 30% is finished, 60% is under heavy construction and 10% still hasn't been touched yet, but I'm guessing they will start this spring or summer the latest. The deadline is nearing (a year and three months now), and they must start working on those untouched sections no matter that they are pretty short and on level terrain.

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Old March 22nd, 2007, 06:48 PM   #45
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No but in YU most of the land was and is private owned, it was not like in bulgaria where all land was nationalized. And it makes harder to build anything coz there are so many owners and for some land they don“t even know who is owner or the owner is dead or he/she doesn“t live anymore in state etc.
All land was returned years ago and disputed property rights have been resolved. This was one of the preconditions for joining the EU.
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Old March 23rd, 2007, 01:04 AM   #46
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Why was Realek banned?
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Old March 23rd, 2007, 01:06 AM   #47
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oh crap i think he was really banned now. probably with fooling around with the 8ANNED thing. that sucks.
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Old March 23rd, 2007, 01:09 AM   #48
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oh crap i think he was really banned now. probably with fooling around with the 8ANNED thing. that sucks.
You can get banned because of that?
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Old March 23rd, 2007, 01:15 AM   #49
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No this time I followed 3tmk's advice to use cyrillic for B

Come on, I don't think they ban people for doing that
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Old March 23rd, 2007, 01:16 AM   #50
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ok I'm releifed now, I'm not the only one U fooled
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Old March 23rd, 2007, 01:16 AM   #51
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No this time I followed 3tmk's advice to use cyrillic for B

Come on, I don't think they ban people for doing that
LOL that was a good idea
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damn we all got punked.
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Old March 23rd, 2007, 02:10 AM   #53
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What do you mean? Length? I don't think I'm able to measure that. Roughly 30% is finished, 60% is under heavy construction and 10% still hasn't been touched yet, but I'm guessing they will start this spring or summer the latest. The deadline is nearing (a year and three months now), and they must start working on those untouched sections no matter that they are pretty short and on level terrain.
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All land was returned years ago and disputed property rights have been resolved. This was one of the preconditions for joining the EU.
so how did the state decide who got to get land?
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@Realek: Ugh oh...people tried that a year ago and mods definitely got annoyed and confused, so they made a rule that if u use the cyrillic and write "Banned", they'll ban you for real. I'd change it back if I was you.
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Old March 23rd, 2007, 03:01 AM   #56
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so how did the state decide who got to get land?
It was returned to the original owners or their descendants. I got land in north central Bulgaria and some land close to Macedonia, which was expropriated from my great grand fathers.

My mom told me I am about to get 3 acres of woods in the mids of the Balkan mountains. How cool is that?

I will build my own Balkan kingdom and whip my slaves as hard as 3tmk does.
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Old March 23rd, 2007, 03:14 AM   #57
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This generally happened during the early nineties. My family got its Burgas hospital back. It was owned by my great grandfather, a famous surgeon in the early 20th century. Unfortunately when the commies came they took everything he ever owned, and his relatives were put on a so-called black list. They were all deemed aristocrats/bourgeoisie because of the wealth they had accumulated from the 'evils' of capitalism. Anyway, the government still uses the hospital so they just have to pay my grandmother a hefty monthly rent.
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Old March 23rd, 2007, 03:36 AM   #58
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I don't know why BL is confused. Of course there was nationalization in Yugoslavia. And there was also denationalization in Macedonia. I think it has ended here a while ago but some cases are still dragged around the courts and disputed. However no new applications for denationalization are allowed I think. I might be wrong though.

People got back buildings, land or state issued bonds depending from the circumstances in each case.
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This generally happened during the early nineties. My family got its Burgas hospital back. It was owned by my great grandfather, a famous surgeon in the early 20th century. Unfortunately when the commies came they took everything he ever owned, and his relatives were put on a so-called black list. They were all deemed aristocrats/bourgeoisie because of the wealth they had accumulated from the 'evils' of capitalism. Anyway, the government still uses the hospital so they just have to pay my grandmother a hefty monthly rent.
You rich bastard!
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I don't know why BL is confused.
BL has been getting confused quite a lot lately. The Banja Luka air must not affect him that well.
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