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Old June 18th, 2015, 03:31 PM   #1181
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I don't get it. Many people are always complaining there isn't enough green space in the city and now we have the opportunity to get some said people are moaning because its "such a waste!". Come on peeps make ya minds up.
I agree with you. Some green spaces are needed to balance out the buildings, otherwise they might as well just stick up samey style buildings cheek by jowl. And lets face it, the ones planned on the Salford side aren't much to write home about. Is there a flat shortish or summat.
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Old June 18th, 2015, 11:06 PM   #1182
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What a great little open space that could be, sitting watching the river and trains running across the new bridge. Plus the view over Middlewood locks too.
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Old June 20th, 2015, 12:04 PM   #1183
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The next consultation...further details on the first plans to be submitted, no mention of where the consultation is though:

http://alliedlondon.com/public-consu...h-june-12-7pm/

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PUBLIC CONSULTATION ON ST. JOHN’S – WEDNESDAY 24TH JUNE


Allied London is holding a consultation event inviting local residents to share their thoughts on the future of St. John’s, the redevelopment of the former Granada Studios estate.

The St. John’s team continues to take all feedback it receives on board and has been working hard over the past two years to develop a masterplan that will guide the future development of this neighbourhood.

The forthcoming planning submission is a culmination of this work and sets out Allied London’s vision for a new place to live, work and play; a place for future enterprise and innovation; and for culture, entertainment and leisure.
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Old June 20th, 2015, 05:38 PM   #1184
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The next consultation...further details on the first plans to be submitted, no mention of where the consultation is though:

http://alliedlondon.com/public-consu...h-june-12-7pm/
Drop in via the ITV Gatehouse on Quay St.
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Old June 22nd, 2015, 10:21 PM   #1185
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Michael Ingall has just tweeted this:

@stjohnsmcr Manchester's vertical village, now a serious proposition, in detail design. @alliedlondon

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Old June 22nd, 2015, 10:27 PM   #1186
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It's going in the right direction Far more realistic and refined than the pie in the sky concept that was first mooted. Still struggling to be fully enthused with it, mind (just because we see how these visions become value engineered and scaled back (plus I mean, come on.. is Manchester ready for a scheme of that scale?!)). But here is to hoping
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Old June 22nd, 2015, 10:35 PM   #1187
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Is that taken from a yet to be developed park or existing?
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Old June 22nd, 2015, 10:56 PM   #1188
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so is this the redesign of the design that was shown a couples of months back. little gutted I though the previous design would be iconic worldwide this just seems to be a more or less generic skyscraper. does anyone no the hight of these?
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Old June 22nd, 2015, 11:51 PM   #1189
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Michael Ingall has just tweeted this:

@stjohnsmcr Manchester's vertical village, now a serious proposition, in detail design. @alliedlondon


Though I have to say this does look quite Impressive for Manchester anyway its about time we got some decent skyscrapers
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Old June 22nd, 2015, 11:51 PM   #1190
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I suspect the original concept had some significant issues with its 'buildability'. Even if those shapes were achievable I suspect the cost would be far far beyond what even the most expensive apartments in Manchester would recoup!
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Old June 22nd, 2015, 11:54 PM   #1191
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London has boxes, Chicago has boxes, New York, LA famously (in high-rise world) to allow helicopter landing on all talls etc etc.

What do we expect from Manchester?

Christ, miserable lot posting tonight. Spoilt the lot of yer, not sure what with! This is awesome in this form. Period.

Jeez.
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Old June 23rd, 2015, 12:02 AM   #1192
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Under the render he added.



The render is probably a semi-basic massing render with the detail to follow. Either way, how anyone can complain about the proposals beyond me. Ingall delivered Spinningfields, so there's absolutely every reason to think he'll deliver the Vertical Village proposal, along with St John's.
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Old June 23rd, 2015, 12:06 AM   #1193
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Firstly, you'll have to forgive folk for not sticking the bunting up just yet.. It might surprise you to hear that this isn't the first vision for the city to have been posted on this forum in its history.

Vivo anyone?



Secondly, it is important to take these images at face value. They are still very early in the design process, I'm happy to be wrong, but it would not surprise me if in a year or two these visuals suddenly lose the stack of trees that align every atrium of the towers, then the curved roofs are scaled back...and it goes on. What you see is not always what you will get, that is the design process, that is life. It isn't being miserable, it isn't about throwing a tantrum. A little look through the archives of this forum will show you just about every facet of development that has been conjured in the past 20 years. A lot of people spent a lot of time getting very excited over a lot of visuals that never went beyond that.

I look forward to not only seeing the development of this scheme and hope it comes to fruition, but I'm not going to cartwheel about the daisies in the mean time.
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Old June 23rd, 2015, 12:07 AM   #1194
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Firstly, you'll have to forgive folk for not sticking the bunting up just yet.. It might surprise you to hear that this isn't the first vision for the city to have been posted on this forum in its history.

Vivo anyone?



Secondly, it is important to take these images at face value. They are still very early in the design process. What you see is not always what you will get, that is the design process, that is life. It isn't being miserable, it isn't about throwing a tantrum. A little look through the archives of this forum will show you just about every facet of development that has been conjured in the past 20 years. A lot of people spent a lot of time getting very excited over a lot of visuals that never went beyond that.

I look forward to not only seeing the development of this scheme and hope it comes to fruition, but I'm not going to cartwheel about the daisies in the mean time.
Just be patient.
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Old June 23rd, 2015, 12:19 AM   #1195
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Its a bit disappointing we've lost its jazzy shape, but then again the new design isn't too shabby. Will still be a very impressive development for an upcoming European powerhouse. We must think London lost its beloved pinnacle to what is a box. Being a new member, does anyone know what that green space is?
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Old June 23rd, 2015, 12:40 AM   #1196
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The proposed tower for the bottom of Quay Street.(I think?) In it's basic render form.

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Old June 23rd, 2015, 12:42 AM   #1197
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Its a bit disappointing we've lost its jazzy shape, but then again the new design isn't too shabby. Will still be a very impressive development for an upcoming European powerhouse. We must think London lost its beloved pinnacle to what is a box. Being a new member, does anyone know what that green space is?
A proposed park fronting the River Irwell? I stand corrected.
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Old June 23rd, 2015, 12:42 AM   #1198
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Its a bit disappointing we've lost its jazzy shape, but then again the new design isn't too shabby. Will still be a very impressive development for an upcoming European powerhouse. We must think London lost its beloved pinnacle to what is a box. Being a new member, does anyone know what that green space is?
I'm not certain, but I'm going to assume it's the riverside park proposed in the St John's masterplan, photographed here by ThreeFour34 last week:

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Old June 23rd, 2015, 01:17 AM   #1199
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The Vertical Village images haven't changed much at all! OK, it's less curvaceous, but the tallest tower is still approaching 50 floors, with 2 clusters of 3 towers each! Just more detail has been added! (The top image is slightly larger than the top one, which you can tell by the clothing goalposts!)



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Old June 23rd, 2015, 01:31 AM   #1200
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Even though it seems to have disappeared on the latest render, I hope the connecting bridge remains in the plans. That makes it feel more like a 'vertical village' than just a cluster of towers. Either way, I will be happy if the essence of this project gets built. Let's be honest, it's better than what's on this site at the moment.
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