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Old March 27th, 2006, 11:08 PM   #41
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WOW!! The trains and the stations look very nice! Great job! I like everything except one thing, the language. I think they should at least put some english(or pingyin) station names inside the trains so foreigners or overseas Chinese can know where they're at.
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Old March 27th, 2006, 11:26 PM   #42
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WOW!! The trains and the stations look very nice! Great job! I like everything except one thing, the language. I think they should at least put some english(or pingyin) station names inside the trains so foreigners or overseas Chinese can know where they're at.
I think they have English under every Chinese station name. Also, they should have voice service to report the current and next station name in Chinese and English just like in Beijing subway.
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Old March 28th, 2006, 04:36 AM   #43
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I think they have English under every Chinese station name. Also, they should have voice service to report the current and next station name in Chinese and English just like in Beijing subway.

I'm referring to this:

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Old June 12th, 2006, 11:49 AM   #44
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Tianjin subway line one finally reopens...

...kind of.

I was walking by a nearby subway station this weekend when I saw a bunch of people handing out flyers and whatnot. I figured I'd go and check it out. Turns out that when I asked before and people said it would be opening on the 12th, they were right. The people handing out flyers were handing out little information brochures and letting people know that it the subway would be opening this Monday.

So I came back today and decided to check it out. It turns out that they were only opening it today for partial service, running from about 9 am to 4pm. I think they deliberately wanted to keep this kind of low key as I think they had some kinks to work out of the system yet. That's why you don't see many people on the trains in these pictures, I don't think anyone really knew about it.

For those of you not in the know, Tianjin's subway was actually the second one built in China, after Beijing's. It was shut down in 2001 and was basically completely rebuilt and extended, finally reopening today. Here is a map of the system:

http://www.johomaps.com/as/china/tia...njinmetro.html

Here is a map of the future system:


And here's also some information about the system and the planned completion dates:
http://tianjin.sina.com.cn/system/20...00027254.shtml
Line #-----------Length (km)---Stations------Cost (yuan)-----------Est Start Date-------Est Finish Date

No. 1------------26.2----------22------------7.87 billion------------2002-------------------2005
(Yeah, so this one is a little bit behind. It is opening this month!)
No. 2------------22.7----------19------------9.98 billion------------2004-------------------2007
No. 3------------28.4----------23------------10.99 billion-----------2004------------------2007
No. 4------------30.5----------23------------12 billion--------------2017------------------2020
No. 5------------35.5----------25------------12 billion--------------2009------------------2012
No. 6------------28.6----------23------------11 billion--------------2009-2012
No. 7------------24.2----------20------------8.5 billion-------------2013-------------------2016
No. 8------------23.7----------13------------8.5 billion-------------2013-------------------2016
No. 9*-----------14.9*--------12------------3.1 billion*------------2003-------------------2006
Total------------234.7---------180-----------84.01 billion yuan (About 10.49 billion dollars)

* The number 9 line is also known as the Binhai Light Rail, which goes out to the Tanggu and TEDA areas of Tianjin. It is most certainly longer than 14 kilometers, and according to urban rail is actually closer to 50. By the "Number 9 line" they must mean from Zhongshanmen or Xinlizhen to the Hai river, or basically the area of the line that falls within the city proper. I'm not 100% sure. This line is actually already in operation, although probably not so much within the city limits.

All that said, here are my general impressions:

Pros:
Extremely quiet and smooth ride. I've ridden subways in New York, Chicago, Atlanta, DC, Beijing, Shanghai, as well as the elevated train here in Tianjin that heads out to Tanggu, and probably a few others on top of that; and I'd say the ride here was as good if not better than anything put forth by any of those systems. The only thing it was lacking was the nice commuter train style seats from the lightrail to Tanggu.
Stations were clean and nice looking. No real fancy extras or anything, but you could tell that this will be good and functional for some time. Having seats for people to sit on while they waited for the train was also a bonus. I also liked the glass doors to the trains, which should make sure that no one falls/gets pushed into the tracks.
Ticket buying system. Very advanced. You use a touchscreen in either English or Chinese to select the station you are going to. Feed your money in, and out pops a token with an electronic chip in it and your change. You flash the electronic chip by the gates to get into the station and drop it into a slot in the exit gates to get out. You can also use the new electronic bus card people they recently began using in Tianjin and just flash that into a separate terminal, and off you go. Edit: Upon riding it a few more times, it appears that about half of the stations have wheelchair access, which I guess is better than nothing. I don't retract the previous statement, but I would like to temper it a bit.

Cons:
Glitches: There were still a few things not quite working right yet, which is probably why they didn't aim to draw a big crowd on their first day. One or two ticket machines and escalators weren't working properly. The lights flickered on and off 2 or 3 times on the train. Some of the stations looked like they were still doing last minute construction work. Hopefully these will get better soon enough.
Photo: Ok, it wasn't that bad, but they weren't letting people take photos of the platforms and whatnot. Probably because of some of the glitches taking place. That didn't really stop me anyways, though. I would just take one or 2 pics at each station and then pretend no one had said anything before when they stopped me. However, I used my PDA to take some of those pictures, and it takes horrible indoor shots, which is why there aren't many of them shown here, (that, and for some reason photobucket won't let me upload them).
Wheelchair Access: Ok, this was the only one that really kind of ticked me off. Hardly any of the stations had elevators. If you look in one of the pics down there you can see part of a guy waiting for someone to come and help him, because there isn't even a ramp to get into the station. I know that most Asian subways don't include that, but I was hoping that since they had done a complete rebuild of the system that they'd have the forsight to add those in to all the stations. And the stations, (at least the above ground ones), are huge. You'd think they could add that in. I mean, it is the 21st century here, after all.

Other than that last problem I had, it was a pretty good ride. I look forward to us getting a few more of these. Anyway, now is time for some pictures:















Some TOD happening near the Yinkou Dao station. Nearly every station I've seen has a cluster or two of 20+ story apartment buidlings going up next to the station.:








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Old June 12th, 2006, 05:05 PM   #45
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Old June 12th, 2006, 06:59 PM   #46
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For those of you not in the know, Tianjin's subway was actually the second one built in China, after Beijing's. It was shut down in 2001 and was basically completely rebuilt and extended, finally reopening today. Here is a map of the system:
The old one ...



... and here you can see other photos of today's Tianjin Metro (not taken by me):

http://www.ourmetro.org/cgi-bin/topi...ic=1335&show=0
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Old June 17th, 2006, 01:28 AM   #47
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I walked by the station again today and it looks like they are still only running trial periods, say from 9:00am to 4:00pm. I wonder when they are gonna go full bore on this one.
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Tianjin Metro


The Train


Inside Train Compartment


On the platform with the "platform gate doors"


Automatic ticketing machine

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Old June 25th, 2006, 02:29 AM   #49
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Tianjin recently re-opened their subway after renovations right? Are the pictures above from a newly constructed line or the renovated one? Also, could someone post a map of the existing subway network and another with the planned lines?
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Old June 25th, 2006, 03:18 AM   #50
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Tianjin recently re-opened their subway after renovations right? Are the pictures above from a newly constructed line or the renovated one? Also, could someone post a map of the existing subway network and another with the planned lines?
I've already got you covered there:

http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=361420
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Old June 25th, 2006, 11:44 AM   #51
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The train is nice, so is the color scheme
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Old June 26th, 2006, 03:31 AM   #52
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looks cool

how do thay manage the electronic display in the stations and inside train considering the fact that Chinese characters are complex and no normal 5 or 8 row display won't do much good ?
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looks cool

how do thay manage the electronic display in the stations and inside train considering the fact that Chinese characters are complex and no normal 5 or 8 row display won't do much good ?
In HK a Chinese character is normally displayed using 16x16 pixels.

An example:



Don't know if there is a difference for the Mainland of China.
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nice pics.
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TIANJIN | Rail Tram







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Old June 11th, 2007, 03:51 PM   #56
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Nice but i heard that the one rail trams are realy shity. There is such a tram in nancy france. My friend who lives there sad that they have to be very slow other vise they jump out of the track
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Nice but i heard that the one rail trams are realy shity. There is such a tram in nancy france. My friend who lives there sad that they have to be very slow other vise they jump out of the track
Nancy has Bombardier's Guided LIght Transport system:



There were several derailments when the system in Nancy first started operation. The system seems to be more reliable now though there are segments along which the speed is severely restricted. A similar system in Caen has not expereinced these problems.

Tianjin has the Translohr system, which uses a different configuraiton for the guide rail:



Other Translohr lines are being built Clermont-Ferrand in France and Padua, L'Aquila, and Mestre-Venise in Italy. The first systems are just opening and there are reports of teething problems.

The major advantages claimed for both the Bombardier and Translohr systems are that they are cheaper to build and can climb steeper grades than traditional trams.

For more information, see the following links:

Bombardier Guided Light Transport
http://www.bombardier.com/index.jsp?.../1_2_2_2_1.jsp
http://world.nycsubway.org/eu/fr/nancycaen.html
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bombard..._Light_Transit

Translohr
http://www.lohr.fr/transport-public_gb.htm
http://www.mitsui-tr.co.jp/english/goods/translohr.htm
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Translohr
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Old June 13th, 2007, 07:28 AM   #58
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F°°°ing Translohr, we're having lots of problems with it here in Padua, and also many other dumb towns have chosen it instead of a damn traditional tramway system.

Many accidents, we're still running with restricted service and we can count a really bad crash. A piece of stone has dazzled the stupid monorail, the last car has derailed and it has crashed against a traffic light pole.
A man seriously injured... and many thanks to the pole, without it the TL would have jumped upon the pedestrian walk, crushing them against the wall.

It needs a lot of manteinance and cleaning on the line, not just to work well, but to not derail!


Those idiotic politicians who chose this crap instead of a damn standard tramway should pay on their own to replace it with a decent and safe system... this thing should be banned from this Earth
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Old June 13th, 2007, 06:43 PM   #59
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LOL blame the tyre companies. They're the ones who advocate GLT
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F°°°ing Translohr, we're having lots of problems with it here in Padua, and also many other dumb towns have chosen it instead of a damn traditional tramway system.
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Those idiotic politicians who chose this crap instead of a damn standard tramway should pay on their own to replace it with a decent and safe system... this thing should be banned from this Earth

Here in Paris they are supposed to use those "tram" for the future extensions. They plan to build at least 3 new routes (Epinay-Villetaneuse, Chatillon-Vélizy and Boulogne-Meudon). I hope the problems there are in Padua, Nancy and Caen will help us to not make this stupid choice.
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