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Old October 8th, 2016, 08:08 PM   #501
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Still hate the underpass, but I do like that view.
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Old October 8th, 2016, 09:57 PM   #502
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Those patchwork soft palette colours are gorgeous imho. Very excited by this. The Barbican has a - much longer - tunnel that is pretty cool, I think... always loads of people walking there and always kind of fun to walk through it after a concert.
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Old October 8th, 2016, 10:39 PM   #503
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A tunnel with some light installations would be cool as we see there in render-land
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Old October 26th, 2016, 02:51 AM   #504
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Sir Howard Bernstein last week at MIPIM2016:-


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Old November 19th, 2016, 12:05 AM   #505
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Old November 19th, 2016, 12:46 AM   #506
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On it
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Old November 19th, 2016, 01:04 AM   #507
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The Factory Theatre | St Johns
Theatre & performance space | City Zone

Thread: http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showth...#post136676417

  • The Factory plot, St Johns masterplan, City Zone Manchester M2

  • Architect: OMA

  • Use: Theatre, art and musical events

  • Home of the Manchester International biennial Festival

  • Capacity: 7,000

  • Completion: 2019

Current status: Planning app submitted

Nearest transport: Deansgate Castlefield:



Absolutely fascinating design. Now that I've seen all this I just want it to be built!

We'll begin with the basics - how it's all put together







The warehouse space will have moving walls, allowing for all kinds of events. The design-access statement envisages art and museum exhibitions, concerts, gigs and opera.

The theatre aspect will be just that: a theatre (and a stunning one at that)






The warehouse is the big box whereas the theatre is the.... thing








It'll look amazing amongst the parks, squares and skyscrapers of St Johns







Really corny render, but I was impressed to discover that the foyer will be utilising the railway arches on site (amongst the first railway arches in the world, in fact) as an entrance way: but also for shops, bars and restaurants.





I know a few people were concerned about Water St and how it runs underneath the building, and the impact that would have on the surroundings, but it looks like they've got that bit covered.... (pardon the pun)







Get it built!
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Old November 19th, 2016, 01:09 AM   #508
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Looks world class to me. Loved this from day one - v unusual for me! Transformative, as they like to say.
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Old November 19th, 2016, 01:34 AM   #509
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My grabs.



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Old November 19th, 2016, 01:41 AM   #510
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Click on the link below for the Design and Access Statement. 151 pages.

















D&AS http://pa.manchester.gov.uk/online-a...16--364413.pdf
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Old November 19th, 2016, 02:17 AM   #511
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Im warming to this. At first i was a bit unsure with the random building styles together. But this needs to be unique, and that will mean its 'marmite'.

That said its a shame from the pics above the white cloud theatre element is rather hidden from view as its the 'postcard bit'...the shape, the arcitecture, an image, that will be remembered by people..."ah..thats the Factory Theatre in Manchester".
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Old November 19th, 2016, 02:21 AM   #512
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Interesting to see it as part of the St Johns Masterplan too
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Old November 19th, 2016, 05:29 PM   #513
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Well I think this is all very disappointing. The only thing that excites me about this actually is the underpass. I like that it will be lit up and potentially will be a canvas for sound/light art, also I like that it passes through at a slight angle and creates a covered piazza.

Otherwise I think it all looks a bit odd, carbuncled and just unimpressive. It looks like a monster from a studio ghibli movie that has crawled out of the Irwell and died on the shore.

Why isn't there some kind of tower/chimney? Perhaps they were conscious of mimicking the Tate, but a tower would have lifted it definitely.
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Old November 19th, 2016, 05:36 PM   #514
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Ok
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Old November 19th, 2016, 05:45 PM   #515
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Sorry, do you think it's unreasonable to have expected a little more from a £110m arts centre designed by one of the World's most famous architects?

One thing I will say is that it definitely responds well to its environment, but it needn't have.
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Old November 19th, 2016, 06:11 PM   #516
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More what though?

EDIT: Sorry that sounds a bit dismissive. I'm genuinely interested in what you think it lacks.
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Old November 19th, 2016, 06:14 PM   #517
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More coherence/more of a unified scheme, and more iconic/more presence.
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Old November 19th, 2016, 06:14 PM   #518
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The 'Theatre' bit is a 9/10 and iconic looking, relate well to the river as well, so get it built.
The 'Warehouse' looks more like a power station. Given the budget it really needs to be an iconic space and not a concrete box with some soft edges. I give it 5/10.
The 'Towers' look like contaminated nuclear reactor towers and need a complete redesign 0/10.
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Old November 19th, 2016, 06:25 PM   #519
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The Theatre bit is a 9/10 and iconic looking, relate well to the river as well, so get it built.
The warehouse looks more like a power station. Given the budget it really needs to be an iconic space and not a concrete box with some soft edges. I give it 5/10.
The towers look like a contaminated nuclear reactor tower and need a complete redesign 0/10.
OK I can understand that, but I don't agree.

I think the incoherence contributes to quite a clever piece of design, in the sense that it's a multi-purpose complex with multiple entrances rather than a single building and this signposts that visually. The delineation of the functions in the external design seems to me a better solution than wrapping such a structure in a single facade to make it look 'iconic'. It's also not in a particularly 'icon' friendly position, being tucked away between various other buildings, viaducts and warehouses. Personally, the idea of 'buying an icon' for regeneration purposes seems a bit old hat.

The service towers aren't my favourite bit, and I think that the materials used might be a case of industrial fetishism, where something simpler and less obtrusive would have been sufficient to convey its function. Maybe something that referenced the Bonded Warehouse more directly would be better?
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Old November 19th, 2016, 06:46 PM   #520
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Sorry, do you think it's unreasonable to have expected a little more from a £110m arts centre designed by one of the World's most famous architects?

One thing I will say is that it definitely responds well to its environment, but it needn't have.
A little more? Its a stunning piece of architecture and engineering. 110m doesn't just go on the exterior you know.
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