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Old March 21st, 2017, 01:45 AM   #11961
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Will be interesting to see the extent of code sharing between HX and VA. Looking at HX schedules some of the best connections (based on timing) for China include PVG, PEK, CTU, SYX, HGH, HAK, TSN and KWE (not all available each day). Outside of China there are also good connection times for TPE, ICN, NRT, KIX and BKK.

I don't expect code sharing but also some interesting options - especially for Japan outside of KIX and NRT with HK Express for those willing to connect with an LCC.

BITRE DOMESTIC TRAFFIC FULL YEAR:2016

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Melbourne Airport:
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2015: 24,022,100
2016: 24,779,500
+3.2%
20.9% (share of Domestic network)

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123,700 tonnes
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Very positive year achieving more than 3% annual growth for the first time since 2012. All major connections apart from Perth (-3.1%) saw Year on Year growth, lead by the Sunshine Coast (8.8%), Gold Coast (8.5%), Darwin (+7.7%) and Cairns (6.9%). Total passenger growth got most of its kick from a 3.4% increase in Sydney - Melbourne traffic - representing 1/3 of total passenger growth at Melbourne.
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Old March 21st, 2017, 02:16 AM   #11962
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Pop the champagne!!!!!
Would you like a glass?
Are you really from Perth/NZ? That really wasn't necessary TBH.

Anyways, congratulations Melbourne & VA.
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Old March 21st, 2017, 02:18 AM   #11963
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Apparently under the Alliance with HNA Group, VA will also co-operate with other HNA Group airlines that fly out of MEL; Hainan Airlines, Beijing Capital Airlines and Tianjin Airlines. Could MEL become like a mini Hub for the HNA Group in Australia?
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Old March 21st, 2017, 02:44 AM   #11964
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Apparently under the Alliance with HNA Group, VA will also co-operate with other HNA Group airlines that fly out of MEL; Hainan Airlines, Beijing Capital Airlines and Tianjin Airlines. Could MEL become like a mini Hub for the HNA Group in Australia?
Would defiantly make sence to co-operate/code share/interline, although not total sure I would call it a hub, HU also serve XIY and CSX from SYD and Capital has applied for PEK-TAO-SYD.

Also I believe some of VA's flights could provide for connections with VS to/from LHR, I wonder if they will code share too? Might get some traffic from Velocity card holders.
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Old March 21st, 2017, 04:45 AM   #11965
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Very exciting Finally hey?!

Sure Is a confusing scheduled, on 3 days per week an A330 will be sitting in HKG from 8:15to 19:50.

VA89 and the return flights are excellent for connections with Hong Kong Airlines
VA87 will get some connections but not so many.

Oh an another morning arrival (and departure on some days) for MEL to find space for!
Congratulations to MEL and VA.

Although have to get in with one opinion.

For the three days the VA A330 will be sitting in HKG for the entire day, surely they could've apply for 5th freedom flights to one of the nearby (high yielding) cities rather than sit the a/c all day in HKG.
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Old March 21st, 2017, 04:48 AM   #11966
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ICN could've been a good option
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Old March 21st, 2017, 05:54 AM   #11967
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I'm thinking that it's more of a slots issue, that's why we have 3 different departure times. Once HKG is more established, VA could possibly negotiate for better slots and potentially up to a more competitive daily service.

With all these new international flights coming online, maybe it's time for VA's own international lounge? The old EK space or the old UA space could be candidates.
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Old March 21st, 2017, 06:56 AM   #11968
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Melbourne Airport press release

And the winner is...Melbourne!
Mar 21, 2017

Victoria’s travelling public is the real winner in today’s announcement that Virgin Australia will commence flights between Melbourne and Hong Kong. Melbourne Airport’s Chief of Aviation, Simon Gandy, said the announcement marked a new milestone in an important year for Australia-China tourism.
“This is wonderful news for Virgin Australia. We’re really pleased with the confidence the airline has shown, both in our destination and in our close working relationship, which has turned this opportunity into reality.
“Virgin Australia deserves a lot of credit for investing in this new Melbourne-Hong Kong route.
“As Melbourne Airport’s continued growth in international passengers has shown, our city is a destination that’s high on the priority list for millions of international travellers visiting for business, leisure, education and renewing family ties.
“As Australia’s fastest-growing capital city, Melbourne represents an incredibly sound, long-term investment market for international airlines.
“Hong Kong is undoubtedly a significant market for the Australian tourism industry, both in terms of a growing number of inbound travellers and as a destination for globe-trotting Australians. It’s also a great hub for connecting to onward services into mainland China and North Asia more broadly.
“The great news is there’s now even more choice for Victorian travellers heading to Hong Kong, but also the opportunity to experience the Virgin Australia product on this route for the first time.”

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Old March 21st, 2017, 08:36 AM   #11969
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“As Australia’s fastest-growing capital city, Melbourne represents an incredibly sound, long-term investment market for international airlines, however we remain committed to refusing to expand our terminal facilities and associated transport infrastructure for reasons only known to us."
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Old March 21st, 2017, 08:38 AM   #11970
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And the longer they leave it, the more disruptive it will be.
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Old March 21st, 2017, 12:03 PM   #11971
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While extra choice is good, I don't really get Virgin's strategy. To pick a destination like Kong Kong that is already well serviced from every Australian capital is "bold" to say the least. I get they're going to leverage HNA for connections into China but still... If they think they're going to get people from other Australian cities to hub through Melbourne to go to Hong Kong they'll be sadly dissapointed. All the other cities have direct flights with Cathay and Qantas. And Qantas and Cathay already have flights into major Chinese cities themselves or code share.

I think VA just pick tough battles. Why not try a route that isn't already served like Melbourne - Seoul or Sydney - Osaka.
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Old March 21st, 2017, 10:14 PM   #11972
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Yes I agree with those 2, they need to look at unserved markets. They could have done Canberra to Hong Kong even but only 2 per week to begin with. There is a lot of daily seats already between MEL and HKG. CX and QF will undercut them to force them out.
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Old March 21st, 2017, 10:28 PM   #11973
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I guess they're relying heavily on their interline services and FF members.

Agree it seems risky.
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Old March 22nd, 2017, 12:26 AM   #11974
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While extra choice is good, I don't really get Virgin's strategy. To pick a destination like Kong Kong that is already well serviced from every Australian capital is "bold" to say the least. I get they're going to leverage HNA for connections into China but still... If they think they're going to get people from other Australian cities to hub through Melbourne to go to Hong Kong they'll be sadly dissapointed. All the other cities have direct flights with Cathay and Qantas. And Qantas and Cathay already have flights into major Chinese cities themselves or code share.

I think VA just pick tough battles. Why not try a route that isn't already served like Melbourne - Seoul or Sydney - Osaka.
Agree.

Brisbane - San Francisco and Melbourne - San Francisco.

I suppose it may be where the market is at the moment but overkill.
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Old March 22nd, 2017, 01:32 AM   #11975
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BITRE - Domestic Aviation Statistics for January 2017
Melbourne starts 2017 with a bang!

https://bitre.gov.au/publications/on...20Jan_2017.pdf

January delivered epic growth for Melbourne on the domestic market. Melbourne saw a 4.2% Jan 17 vs Jan 16 increase in domestic passengers, well above Sydney (1.6%) and Brisbane (2.3%)



Growth was lead by 20%+ growth from Newcastle and the Sunshine Coast. Extra capacity thanks to Tiger launched Canberra up 12% and Hobart grew at 9%. Importantly NO major markets monitored by BITRE from Melbourne declined, including 1.7% growth from Perth, on the back of December, this is the first time in 20 months Perth has seen 2 months of growth. The big increase vs Sydney enabled Melbourne to come within 1.5% of the market share for the first time (21.5% vs 22.8%)

Domestic Cargo in Melbourne continued to grow strongly at 15.0% well ahead of SYD, BNE, PER and ADL.

Load Factors also increased on many routes - Topped by Cairns at 87.2%,



Eagerly awaiting International results which should see massive increases based on airport released results.
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Old March 22nd, 2017, 02:03 AM   #11976
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^ YOY means year over year, so Melbourne's YOY was 3.2% not 4.2%.
The 4.2% is month of Jan 17 compared to Jan 16.
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Old March 22nd, 2017, 02:36 AM   #11977
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VA's new MEL-HKG service is now bookable! Special launch fares from $759 return!
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VA's new MEL-HKG service is now bookable! Special launch fares from $759 return!
Just wait for the next Qantas $599 sale (like yesterday)
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Old March 22nd, 2017, 07:00 AM   #11979
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No codeshare with Virgin Atlantic for their HKG - LHR flights which were cut back from starting in Sydney a couple of years back? Disappointing.

The timing actually works too coming east (but not going west), about 2hrs 45 mins at Hong Kong to connect. But pointless if you can't book a through ticket.

As to the connections to mainland China, wow. Just what everybody in Melb has been crying out for.
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Old March 22nd, 2017, 07:07 AM   #11980
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We now have official delivery dates for QF's first 4 787's (subject to change)

LN 615: 12/10/17
LN 641: 1/12/17
LN 655: 31/12/17
LN 669: 22/2/18

QF will as expected have 2 787's when MEL-LAX commences and 4 when MEL-PER-LHR commences. Expect to see them on domestic flights right up until then.
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