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Old July 3rd, 2007, 12:40 PM   #121
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A highway freak should know this - standard widths are: 3,75m for driving lanes; 2,75m for the emergency lane (no need for more). Never noticed that extra space towards the middle? That's your last 0,5m

AFAIK this is the current standard for 2x(2+1) freeways in Europe. Nothing revolutionary about the bypass. The only thing I might add about the width is that there are a lot of interchanges and near them it gets wider cause the emergency lane turns into an exit/entrance lane. So 11,75m instead of 10,75 in those places. Kondovo interchange will have 4 driving lanes before the split and this is probably also the case with Hipodrom interchange (and in the future Orizari interchange too)
3,75m is luxury in The Netherlands! Most lanes are only 3 - 3,5m wide! And we even have rushhour-lanes which are only 2m wide! Damn i don't drive on it, my mirrors almost hit the crash barrier then, and i still have a small car.

But National and Provincial roads have generally even more narrow lanes, 3m wide is an exception.
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Old July 3rd, 2007, 12:56 PM   #122
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I have travelled in Croatia , Crna Gora , Macedonia and Serbia from the ex-yugo republics . What i have noticed is that in all of them the 1st, 2nd and 3rd class roads were with at least 0,5-1 m. narowwer than the same here in Bulgaria. Probably in yugoslavia they had different standarts for the width of the roads. Highways dimensions however are the same in ex-yugoslavia , and in Bulgaria. Croatia had the best roads out of all of those countries that i have traveled although it was a real challange to drive on those winding narrow ones on the Dalamcia coast.
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Old July 3rd, 2007, 01:48 PM   #123
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OMG Chris, that is a real surprise for me. But is that the case with your newly constructed highways also???

OMG Dejan your clip sucks
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Old July 3rd, 2007, 01:53 PM   #124
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OMG Chris, that is a real surprise for me. But is that the case with your newly constructed highways also???
Yes. Don't know why, our standards are quite different as Germany's for instance.
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Old July 3rd, 2007, 02:12 PM   #125
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The only thing I might add about the width is that there are a lot of interchanges and near them it gets wider cause the emergency lane turns into an exit/entrance lane. So 11,75m instead of 10,75 in those places. Kondovo interchange will have 4 driving lanes before the split and this is probably also the case with Hipodrom interchange (and in the future Orizari interchange too)
Correction: not Orizari, but Stenkovec interhange.
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Old July 3rd, 2007, 03:21 PM   #126
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@ dewrob - where did you dig up those pics dude?
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so are those bridges in the MK Infrastructure thread....

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Old July 3rd, 2007, 03:27 PM   #127
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Finally...

Have you had the chance to check out the "old" site that was there for a long time and wasn't updated at all?
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Old July 3rd, 2007, 03:37 PM   #128
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Finally...

Have you had the chance to check out the "old" site that was there for a long time and wasn't updated at all?
yeah I remember the "old" site it was pure crap... The new one is shitty as well but it has some info and pics at least...

I was watching the news on Kanal 5 yesterday about the bypass and the peasants... And I saw Natasa Valkanovska saying there will be no more screwing around with the project. And it got me thinking that Valkanovska is quite active lately, that she's doing a good job and that I should check their web site if there is anything new.... so I did it and voila

they also have some pics of roads/highways there as well, but they are way too old and uninteresting they seem as they are from end of 80s beggining of 90s...
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Old July 3rd, 2007, 03:39 PM   #129
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BTW... what a rip off http://www.hac.hr/ I knew it I've seen the layout and all somewhere when I was looking at the site yesterday
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Old July 3rd, 2007, 03:42 PM   #130
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Yeah what a rip off ... and a bad rip off in the same time.
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Old July 3rd, 2007, 03:48 PM   #131
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Yeah what a rip off ... and a bad rip off in the same time.


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yeah I remember the "old" site it was pure crap... The new one is shitty as well but it has some info and pics at least...
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Old July 3rd, 2007, 03:49 PM   #132
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Turnovec can you provide us with the link of the of the Bulgarian site?
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Old July 3rd, 2007, 04:19 PM   #133
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Well don't know if there is such organization here called "ФОНД ЗА МАГИСТРАЛНИ И РЕГИОНАЛНИ ПАТИШТА НА РЕПУБЛИКА България" ...

I think in the "Bulgaria transportation and tourism" thread they posted you some links to bulgarian pages of the same info.

And i didn't put my previous post just to tease you or something. My reaction was about the web site design. Not the quality of it , but the fact that it is copied from another one. I never liked bad replicas of already existing sites. It is a common thing to see this in Bulgaria too.
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Old July 3rd, 2007, 04:22 PM   #134
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Well don't know if there is such organization here called "ФОНД ЗА МАГИСТРАЛНИ И РЕГИОНАЛНИ ПАТИШТА НА РЕПУБЛИКА България" ...

I think in the "Bulgaria transportation and tourism" thread they posted you some links to bulgarian pages of the same info.

And i didn't put my previous post just to tease you or something. My reaction was about the web site design. I never liked bad replicas of already existing sites. It is a common thing to see this in Bulgaria too.

Doesn't have to be with the same name turnovec. Whatever is the authority that is in charge of roads in BG...

And you saw too much in my post. I didn't do it to tease you either.
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Old July 3rd, 2007, 04:36 PM   #135
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Ок , I think there are 2 Ministries responsible for this here in Bulgaria

МРРБ
МТ

also : Фонд Републиканска Пътна Инфраструктура

And that map is quite illustrative as well

All the sites are shitty as well ... I call that style of web design - "Late 90's state ordered "
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Old July 3rd, 2007, 04:44 PM   #136
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thnx


that ministry is the same one though
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Old July 3rd, 2007, 04:52 PM   #137
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OMG Dejan your clip sucks
Yeah, cheap youtube has to scale it down a lot it seems, there goes my directing career through the net :p
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Old July 3rd, 2007, 04:54 PM   #138
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Yeah, cheap youtube has to scale it down a lot it seems
I didn't say anything about youtube...

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I didn't say anything about youtube...

ok it's me
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Old July 5th, 2007, 02:54 AM   #140
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Hi,
Dobar dan,

my first visit to this site!

impressive pics, Realek: well done job.

I noticed on your picture n°4 (map) the grass airstrip of Stenkovec (Blace road). It reminds me good times in SK: I'm maybe the only non Macedonian to have been granted a sportski- pilot license as a retranscription of the Belgian one: and I flew UTVA75 (Z3-DCD) with trainer Dumitar and got type rating !!!!!!!

So, seeing the airstrip on your pic made my hart accelerating

I love Macedonia and Macedonians .
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