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View Poll Results: Your Preference
Roger's 8 6.45%
Pelli's 21 16.94%
Som's 90 72.58%
None 5 4.03%
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Old September 12th, 2007, 03:13 AM   #261
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Unless SOM can come up with another $250 millions, I think the deal is done! The Pelli building is primarily an office building and the Hines guys are using the class A office building proform rent to justify the whopping $350 million offer to the Transbay Authroity. Both SOM and Rogers buildings have some residential and retail elements in them so maybe they cannot compete with Hines on the numbers (because right now, class A office building rent in SF is pushing north of $70/ft.month and some deals have gone over $100/ft/mon). I wonder if the City will allow the other two contestants to re-submit their offer regarding $$ or is it too late for that?
Well the city is pretty adamant about having about 3,500 units, 35% of which have to be for lower income people (you know, those making under 100k). Pellis group was th eonly one of the three that didnt inlcude housing so we'll see how that plays out.
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Old September 12th, 2007, 03:22 AM   #262
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I think for something this tall, it's going to be hard pressed to get people to buy a unit 100 floors up in the air! The best scenario is a condo-hotel, wheras the bottom half are condos and the upper half are hotel rooms. something like what the Hyatt is building in Pudong, China. I for one may want to experience sleeping on the 100th floor (just once), but will not want to buy one and live like that as my residence. But a condo-hotel may pencil out for a higher offering price to the TA. If SOM-Rockerfeller can raise their bid north of $300 million, I think they may have a shot.
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Old September 12th, 2007, 03:27 AM   #263
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Transbay Joint Powers Authority Jury Report

Here's a link to the jury report, for anyone who is interested in the details:

http://www.transbaycenter.org/TransB...inalReport.pdf
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Old September 12th, 2007, 05:17 AM   #264
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It appears that the old fogies running this selection prefer the boring/bland Pelli proposal

http://www.sfgate.com/flat/archive/2...BAN4S2QK3.html
That would be absolutely unfortunate to pass on the SOM design. If San Francisco were to build a guaranteed global icon up there with the likes of the Golden Gate, Eiffel tower, the Statue of Liberty or the Sydney Opera House, they'd forge ahead with SOM's breathtaking and unique design.

I have a question for you Bay Areans on the know:

Say the Pelli design wins. Would there be any chance the SOM design would take place on one of the other proposed sites where a tall building is planned? The skyscraper only of course, not the base.
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Old September 12th, 2007, 05:57 AM   #265
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they couldn't both exist. it would be like having the Freedom Tower built next to the Empire State Building.
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Old September 12th, 2007, 10:40 AM   #266
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Here's a link to the jury report, for anyone who is interested in the details:

http://www.transbaycenter.org/TransB...inalReport.pdf
unbelievable ...that's also the most expensive project!
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Old September 12th, 2007, 10:46 AM   #267
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they couldn't both exist. it would be like having the Freedom Tower built next to the Empire State Building.
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Old September 13th, 2007, 02:23 AM   #268
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they couldn't both exist. it would be like having the Freedom Tower built next to the Empire State Building.
i could see it build at 800-900ft...but at it's current proposed height i have to agree with you
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Old September 16th, 2007, 08:10 AM   #269
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I like the 2nd one the best i think... Even though its not that great. I like the 3rd one, except for that overwhelming amount of useless and ugly metal bars all wrapping around the tower.. if the stupis webbed bars were removed, i'd like it.
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Old September 16th, 2007, 12:30 PM   #270
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Skidmore's transit terminal alone would be an excellent addition to San Francisco.

New York should be in awe of the city's transit ambitions. Even the proposal is audacious! Go bold or go home.
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Old September 16th, 2007, 09:13 PM   #271
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so is it official they chose Pelli?
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Old September 16th, 2007, 09:48 PM   #272
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so is it official they chose Pelli?
The jury recommended Pelli-Hines as their first choice, and SOM last. The TransBay board meets Thursday, when they are expected to consider the recommendations of the jury, and select one proposal for further review.
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Old September 16th, 2007, 09:52 PM   #273
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Skidmore's transit terminal alone would be an excellent addition to San Francisco. ...
On what basis? The only information in this thread about the transit terminal is in the jury report, which rated it a poor third. Most of the discussion in this thread is about the tower, which is not the transit terminal, merely the means of paying for it.
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Old September 17th, 2007, 12:57 AM   #274
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maybe they should just scrap the whole project.
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Old September 17th, 2007, 02:17 AM   #275
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I don't know, the Pelli design isn't so bad. Could be worse!

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Old September 17th, 2007, 03:20 AM   #276
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They need to see this Poll.
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Old September 17th, 2007, 03:23 AM   #277
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but the Terminal desing is rally bad, but I'vnt seen any renders of theinside.
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Old September 17th, 2007, 04:09 AM   #278
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Rogers for me.
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Old September 17th, 2007, 04:10 AM   #279
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0 votes for Pelli's. what a bunch of morons.
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On what basis?
On the basis of the renderings shown, that's what. It is a very attractive design.
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