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Old September 25th, 2007, 11:03 AM   #1
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Is there any future for the San Fernando Valley?

After 2 secession attempts and evidence of rampant NIMBYism, is there any kind of future for SFV after its kind of obvious that they want to do things on their own (and how a lot of cities in the SFV are becoming independent, distancing themselves from the SFV proper)?

Would a lot of you mind if the SFV seceded from Los Angeles, despite the fact that our population would go down? Discuss...

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Old September 25th, 2007, 11:29 AM   #2
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yes because its totally different.

when I'm there, I don't feel like anything i happening besides house partis and shootings. Or like bar[bat[ mitsvahs or like...people cruding down ventura for no reason. Either do something great or leave.
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Old September 25th, 2007, 06:11 PM   #3
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Secede already!!
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Old September 25th, 2007, 06:47 PM   #4
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Yeah, I agree with the both of you... it's not exactly as though I want to see the SFV go, but they need to shape up their shit or GTFO. Especially when they do a lot of slick shit to make it easier to secede from the city, do you really need people like that in our backyard? The SFV is what happens when you put the OC in L.A. County...

What I think the problem is right now is that a lot of people running the SFV grew up in 1940's-1960's Los Angeles where it was still this "giant suburb", before a defined DTLA with skyscrapers and density in certain parts of the city, and they're still striving to maintain that image for the SFV. What's it gonna look like when the rest of the city from the east to the west is developed but when the SFV looks like 'Burbsville U.S.A.?

Just exactly WTF is going on out there? SFV residents sound off!
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Old September 26th, 2007, 12:12 AM   #5
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SFV out.

WH, BH, and SM in.
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Old September 26th, 2007, 01:23 AM   #6
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nah... keep em. we could use their city taxes.

though i wouldn't mind annexing all the cities south of the SM mountains and west of the 110. we'd look a lot better on a map.

still keep SFV so they don't build a downtown/civic center of their own (that'll slow down our construction). plus we'd fall back to the third largest U.S. city in terms of population.
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Old September 26th, 2007, 02:27 AM   #7
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SFV out.

WH, BH, and SM in.
That, and add Long Beach in as well for a seaside skyline (and possibly the SGV too for Pasadena)
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Old September 26th, 2007, 03:05 AM   #8
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The entire county is like one big city anyway, so I don't see what difference it would make. I mean when we begin to build a rail system it stretches all the way south to LBC then NE to Pasadena then N to SFV and eventually all the way out W to Santa Monica.....whether we like it or not LA has roommates.
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Old September 26th, 2007, 04:07 AM   #9
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I rather keep the Valley and get rid of Watts, Portions of South L.A., Wilmington, El Sereno, and portions of North LA that are dead zones. I am someday returning to the SFV and will do everything possible to remain L.A. City limits, like it's always been...
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Old September 26th, 2007, 04:20 AM   #10
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Where's North LA?
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Old September 26th, 2007, 04:29 AM   #11
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Where's North LA?


El Sereno
Glassell Park
Avenues
Happy Valley
and many others.
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Old September 26th, 2007, 04:41 AM   #12
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I've only heard recently real estate types calling this NELA(northeast LA)which I hate. It used to just not have a name, right? Happy Valley....what?
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Old September 26th, 2007, 04:41 AM   #13
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Funny that secession is mentioned again. I actually just read an article in everyone's favorite newspaper, the daily news, that mentioned that the president of the la chamber of commerce (who happens to be a serioud valley proponent) is calling for la to be broken up into boroughs in order to give the valley more self governance.

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http://www.dailynews.com/news/ci_6980622
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Old September 26th, 2007, 05:43 AM   #14
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^ I thought Klamedia just posted that somewhere....
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Old September 26th, 2007, 09:59 AM   #15
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I rather keep the Valley and get rid of Watts, Portions of South L.A., Wilmington, El Sereno, and portions of North LA that are dead zones. I am someday returning to the SFV and will do everything possible to remain L.A. City limits, like it's always been...
Agreed. And remember half of L.A.'s population comes from the Valley and if L.A. ever does separate from the Valley (which will never happen) L.A.'s population will be cut in half bringing the L.A. city population down to 2 million.
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Old September 26th, 2007, 11:15 AM   #16
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The laughter in the rest of the country would be deafening, and the fact would be held against you forever if you allowed that to happen, whether you care or not. The damage will have been done.
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Old September 26th, 2007, 11:34 AM   #17
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Please secede.
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I want LA to remain the nation's second largest city.
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Old September 26th, 2007, 10:24 PM   #19
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^YES...
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Old September 26th, 2007, 10:35 PM   #20
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^YES...

Why not just shoot for first?
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