Is there any future for the San Fernando Valley?

VZN · September 25th, 2007, 11:03 AM

After 2 secession attempts and evidence of rampant NIMBYism, is there any kind of future for SFV after its kind of obvious that they want to do things on their own (and how a lot of cities in the SFV are becoming independent, distancing themselves from the SFV proper)?

Would a lot of you mind if the SFV seceded from Los Angeles, despite the fact that our population would go down? Discuss...

kidA · September 25th, 2007, 11:29 AM

yes because its totally different.

when I'm there, I don't feel like anything i happening besides house partis and shootings. Or like bar[bat[ mitsvahs or like...people cruding down ventura for no reason. Either do something great or leave.

klamedia · September 25th, 2007, 06:11 PM

Secede already!!

VZN · September 25th, 2007, 06:47 PM

Yeah, I agree with the both of you... it's not exactly as though I want to see the SFV go, but they need to shape up their shit or GTFO. Especially when they do a lot of slick shit to make it easier to secede from the city, do you really need people like that in our backyard? The SFV is what happens when you put the OC in L.A. County...

What I think the problem is right now is that a lot of people running the SFV grew up in 1940's-1960's Los Angeles where it was still this "giant suburb", before a defined DTLA with skyscrapers and density in certain parts of the city, and they're still striving to maintain that image for the SFV. What's it gonna look like when the rest of the city from the east to the west is developed but when the SFV looks like 'Burbsville U.S.A.?

Just exactly WTF is going on out there?

SFV residents sound off!

Westsidelife · September 26th, 2007, 12:12 AM

SFV out.

WH, BH, and SM in.

croyboy · September 26th, 2007, 01:23 AM

nah... keep em. we could use their city taxes.

though i wouldn't mind annexing all the cities south of the SM mountains and west of the 110. we'd look a lot better on a map.

still keep SFV so they don't build a downtown/civic center of their own (that'll slow down our construction). plus we'd fall back to the third largest U.S. city in terms of population.

VZN · September 26th, 2007, 02:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Westsidelife

SFV out.

WH, BH, and SM in.

That, and add Long Beach in as well for a seaside skyline (and possibly the SGV too for Pasadena)

klamedia · September 26th, 2007, 03:05 AM

The entire county is like one big city anyway, so I don't see what difference it would make. I mean when we begin to build a rail system it stretches all the way south to LBC then NE to Pasadena then N to SFV and eventually all the way out W to Santa Monica.....whether we like it or not LA has roommates.

Fern~Fern* · September 26th, 2007, 04:07 AM

I rather keep the Valley and get rid of Watts, Portions of South L.A., Wilmington, El Sereno, and portions of North LA that are dead zones. I am someday returning to the SFV and will do everything possible to remain L.A. City limits, like it's always been...

klamedia · September 26th, 2007, 04:20 AM

Where's North LA?

Fern~Fern* · September 26th, 2007, 04:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by klamedia

Where's North LA?

El Sereno
Glassell Park
Avenues
Happy Valley
and many others.

klamedia · September 26th, 2007, 04:41 AM

I've only heard recently real estate types calling this NELA(northeast LA)which I hate. It used to just not have a name, right? Happy Valley....what?

solongfullerton · September 26th, 2007, 04:41 AM

Funny that secession is mentioned again. I actually just read an article in everyone's favorite newspaper, the daily news, that mentioned that the president of the la chamber of commerce (who happens to be a serioud valley proponent) is calling for la to be broken up into boroughs in order to give the valley more self governance.

read more here
http://www.dailynews.com/news/ci_6980622

CITYofDREAMS · September 26th, 2007, 05:43 AM

^ I thought Klamedia just posted that somewhere....

LANative · September 26th, 2007, 09:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ferneynism

I rather keep the Valley and get rid of Watts, Portions of South L.A., Wilmington, El Sereno, and portions of North LA that are dead zones. I am someday returning to the SFV and will do everything possible to remain L.A. City limits, like it's always been...

Agreed. And remember half of L.A.'s population comes from the Valley and if L.A. ever does separate from the Valley (which will never happen) L.A.'s population will be cut in half bringing the L.A. city population down to 2 million.

milquetoast · September 26th, 2007, 11:15 AM

The laughter in the rest of the country would be deafening, and the fact would be held against you forever if you allowed that to happen, whether you care or not. The damage will have been done.

klamedia · September 26th, 2007, 11:34 AM

Please secede.

Westsidelife · September 26th, 2007, 08:48 PM

I want LA to remain the nation's second largest city.

CITYofDREAMS · September 26th, 2007, 10:24 PM

^YES...

VZN · September 26th, 2007, 10:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CITYofDREAMS

^YES...

Why not just shoot for first?

September 25th, 2007, 11:03 AM	#1
VZN Caleuphoria Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: LBC/LA/IE Posts: 734 Likes (Received): 1	Is there any future for the San Fernando Valley? After 2 secession attempts and evidence of rampant NIMBYism, is there any kind of future for SFV after its kind of obvious that they want to do things on their own (and how a lot of cities in the SFV are becoming independent, distancing themselves from the SFV proper)? Would a lot of you mind if the SFV seceded from Los Angeles, despite the fact that our population would go down? Discuss... Last edited by VZN; September 25th, 2007 at 11:42 AM.

September 25th, 2007, 11:29 AM	#2
kidA Registered User Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 337 Likes (Received): 0	yes because its totally different. when I'm there, I don't feel like anything i happening besides house partis and shootings. Or like bar[bat[ mitsvahs or like...people cruding down ventura for no reason. Either do something great or leave. __________________ "heart and soul"

September 25th, 2007, 06:11 PM	#3
klamedia Silver Lake Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Lost Angeles Posts: 5,010 Likes (Received): 16	Secede already!! __________________ "Self defense is not violence" - Malcolm X "I love Los Angeles. I love Hollywood. They're so beautiful. Everything's plastic, but I love plastic. I want to be plastic." - Andy Warhol Minimum parking standards are fertility drugs for cars. - Donald Shoup

September 26th, 2007, 12:12 AM	#5
Westsidelife LAL / LAK / LAD Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 6,787 Likes (Received): 6	SFV out. WH, BH, and SM in. __________________ "I'm an LA guy, can't help it." -- Tiger Woods

September 26th, 2007, 01:23 AM	#6
croyboy Registered User Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 1,031 Likes (Received): 2	nah... keep em. we could use their city taxes. though i wouldn't mind annexing all the cities south of the SM mountains and west of the 110. we'd look a lot better on a map. still keep SFV so they don't build a downtown/civic center of their own (that'll slow down our construction). plus we'd fall back to the third largest U.S. city in terms of population. __________________ just build it, whatever it is

September 25th, 2007, 06:47 PM	#4
VZN Caleuphoria Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: LBC/LA/IE Posts: 734 Likes (Received): 1	Yeah, I agree with the both of you... it's not exactly as though I want to see the SFV go, but they need to shape up their shit or GTFO. Especially when they do a lot of slick shit to make it easier to secede from the city, do you really need people like that in our backyard? The SFV is what happens when you put the OC in L.A. County... What I think the problem is right now is that a lot of people running the SFV grew up in 1940's-1960's Los Angeles where it was still this "giant suburb", before a defined DTLA with skyscrapers and density in certain parts of the city, and they're still striving to maintain that image for the SFV. What's it gonna look like when the rest of the city from the east to the west is developed but when the SFV looks like 'Burbsville U.S.A.? Just exactly WTF is going on out there? SFV residents sound off!

September 26th, 2007, 03:05 AM	#8
klamedia Silver Lake Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Lost Angeles Posts: 5,010 Likes (Received): 16	The entire county is like one big city anyway, so I don't see what difference it would make. I mean when we begin to build a rail system it stretches all the way south to LBC then NE to Pasadena then N to SFV and eventually all the way out W to Santa Monica.....whether we like it or not LA has roommates. __________________ "Self defense is not violence" - Malcolm X "I love Los Angeles. I love Hollywood. They're so beautiful. Everything's plastic, but I love plastic. I want to be plastic." - Andy Warhol Minimum parking standards are fertility drugs for cars. - Donald Shoup

September 26th, 2007, 04:07 AM	#9
Fern~Fern* Inquiry Within... Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Currently residing in the good Ol' IE until something else arises from the horizon. Posts: 7,424 Likes (Received): 8	I rather keep the Valley and get rid of Watts, Portions of South L.A., Wilmington, El Sereno, and portions of North LA that are dead zones. I am someday returning to the SFV and will do everything possible to remain L.A. City limits, like it's always been... __________________ You're so FAKE that you should have two Facebook accounts, one for each face.... ~~By Fern to the Fern*

September 26th, 2007, 04:20 AM	#10
klamedia Silver Lake Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Lost Angeles Posts: 5,010 Likes (Received): 16	Where's North LA? __________________ "Self defense is not violence" - Malcolm X "I love Los Angeles. I love Hollywood. They're so beautiful. Everything's plastic, but I love plastic. I want to be plastic." - Andy Warhol Minimum parking standards are fertility drugs for cars. - Donald Shoup

September 26th, 2007, 04:41 AM	#12
klamedia Silver Lake Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Lost Angeles Posts: 5,010 Likes (Received): 16	I've only heard recently real estate types calling this NELA(northeast LA)which I hate. It used to just not have a name, right? Happy Valley....what? __________________ "Self defense is not violence" - Malcolm X "I love Los Angeles. I love Hollywood. They're so beautiful. Everything's plastic, but I love plastic. I want to be plastic." - Andy Warhol Minimum parking standards are fertility drugs for cars. - Donald Shoup

September 26th, 2007, 04:41 AM	#13
solongfullerton Registered User Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 292 Likes (Received): 0	Funny that secession is mentioned again. I actually just read an article in everyone's favorite newspaper, the daily news, that mentioned that the president of the la chamber of commerce (who happens to be a serioud valley proponent) is calling for la to be broken up into boroughs in order to give the valley more self governance. read more here http://www.dailynews.com/news/ci_6980622

September 26th, 2007, 05:43 AM	#14
CITYofDREAMS The Place Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 1,088 Likes (Received): 3	^ I thought Klamedia just posted that somewhere.... __________________ 'Los Angeles is raw, uncouth and bizarre, but it's a place of substance. It has more new horizons than any other place." - Werner Herzog

September 26th, 2007, 11:15 AM	#16
milquetoast L O S A N G E L E S Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Henderson NV Posts: 5,288 Likes (Received): 24	The laughter in the rest of the country would be deafening, and the fact would be held against you forever if you allowed that to happen, whether you care or not. The damage will have been done.

September 26th, 2007, 11:34 AM	#17
klamedia Silver Lake Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Lost Angeles Posts: 5,010 Likes (Received): 16	Please secede. __________________ "Self defense is not violence" - Malcolm X "I love Los Angeles. I love Hollywood. They're so beautiful. Everything's plastic, but I love plastic. I want to be plastic." - Andy Warhol Minimum parking standards are fertility drugs for cars. - Donald Shoup

September 26th, 2007, 08:48 PM	#18
Westsidelife LAL / LAK / LAD Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 6,787 Likes (Received): 6	I want LA to remain the nation's second largest city. __________________ "I'm an LA guy, can't help it." -- Tiger Woods

September 26th, 2007, 10:24 PM	#19
CITYofDREAMS The Place Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 1,088 Likes (Received): 3	^YES... __________________ 'Los Angeles is raw, uncouth and bizarre, but it's a place of substance. It has more new horizons than any other place." - Werner Herzog

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