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Old December 10th, 2007, 12:38 PM   #101
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Real GDP 3d Quarter 2007 growth is 6,3%, first 9 months 6,5%

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Source: http://www.stat.si/eng/novica_prikazi.aspx?id=1317


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GDP grew by 6.3 percent in the third quarter of 2007
Gross domestic product (GDP) increased by 6.3 percent in the third quarter of 2007 compared to the third quarter of 2006. In the January-September 2007 period GDP increased by 6.5 percent compared to the same period of 2006.
Seasonally and working days adjusted GDP increased by 1.6 percent in the third quarter of 2007 compared to the second quarter of 2007 and by 6.3 percent compared to the third quarter of 2006.
In the third quarter of 2007 GDP at current prices amounted to EUR 8,715 million or 10.7 percent more than in the third quarter of 2006. In the January‑September period GDP at current prices increased by 10.7 percent compared to the same period of 2006.

Further increase of exports and imports
Exports continue to record high growth also at the beginning of the second half of 2007. Total exports of goods and services increased by 15.8 percent in the third quarter of 2007 which is one of the highest increases in the last ten years. Exports thus remain one of the most important driving factors for GDP growth. Exports contributed 10.5 percentage points to GDP growth in the third quarter of 2007.
Imports show similar movements as exports. Imports growth is increasing as imports were by 17.4 percent higher than in the third quarter of 2006. This is, similar to exports, one of the highest increases in the past years. As exports growth was slower than imports growth, external trade balance had negative effect to GDP volume growth (1.0 percentage points).

High domestic consumption growth mainly due to gross capital formation
Domestic consumption growth was similar as in the previous four quarters; it amounted to 7.4 percent in the third quarter of 2007. High domestic consumption growth in the period from the third quarter of 2006 on is mainly driven by the increase of gross capital formation.
Gross capital formation increased by 19.4 percent in the third quarter of 2007 compared to the third quarter of 2006. Gross fixed capital formation increased by 17.7 percent, of which investment in buildings by 22.5 percent and investment in machinery and equipment by 10.0 percent.
Increase in inventories was again higher than a year ago so it contributed positively to GDP growth (0.8 percentage points).

Slow growth in final consumption
Final consumption growth increased by 2.5 percent in the third quarter of 2007. Its growth is for a longer period slower than GDP growth. Final consumption expenditure of households increased by 2.7 percent at the annual level, final consumption expenditure of general government by 2.0 percent and final consumption expenditure of non‑profit institutions serving households by 2.8 percent.

High growth of value added in manufacturing and construction continues
Total value added increased by 6.2 percent in the third quarter of 2007 compared to the third quarter of 2006. For the fifth quarter in a row, the highest increase of value added was recorded in construction (16.8 percent in the third quarter of 2007); however, there is noticeable decrease in the growth compared to the growth in the first half of 2007. On the other hand, value added growth in manufacturing remains at similar rates for the seventh quarter in a row (value added increased by 8.0 percent in the third quarter of 2007).
In the third quarter of 2007 there was high growth of value added recorded also in financial intermediation (15.7 percent), trade (8.0 percent), energy supply (6.9 percent) and transport (4.8 percent).

High employment growth continues
Employment growth is still high and comparable to growth in the first half of 2007. According to national accounts, total employment amounted to 969,700 persons in the third quarter of 2007 which is by 2.7 percent more (25,500 persons) than in the third quarter of 2006. By activities employment increased the most in construction (10.7 percent), transport (7.1 percent), business services (5.9 percent) and hotels and restaurants (4.4 percent). Number of employees increased by 3.2 percent and number of self-employed by 0.3 percent. Employment in manufacturing was 0.9 percent higher than in the third quarter of 2006.
In non-financial and financial corporations employment increased by 3.9 percent compared to the third quarter of 2006, in households together with non-profit institutions serving households by 1.5 percent and in general government by 0.2 percent.
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Old December 10th, 2007, 12:59 PM   #102
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Dokler je inflacija na podobni procentaži, se mi ta dosežek ne zdi tako superioren.
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Old December 10th, 2007, 02:30 PM   #103
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Dokler je inflacija na podobni procentaži, se mi ta dosežek ne zdi tako superioren.
V bistvu ta inflacija niti ni tak slaba. Saj če sešteješ inflacijo in gospodarsko rast, pomeni, da se nominalno hitreje bližamo Evropi, kot pa če bi imeli nizko inflacijo.
Poleg tega je gospodarska rast višja od inflacije.

Glede na prejšnjo leto je BDP nominalno zrasel za več kot 10%
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Old December 10th, 2007, 03:02 PM   #104
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V bistvu ta inflacija niti ni tak slaba. Saj če sešteješ inflacijo in gospodarsko rast, pomeni, da se nominalno hitreje bližamo Evropi, kot pa če bi imeli nizko inflacijo.
Ja, s cenami se kar hitro bližamo Evropi. S plačami jih pa precej slabo lovimo. Pri tem tempu imamo še vsaj 20 let pred sabo, da pridemo vsaj blizu kaki Avstriji.

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Poleg tega je gospodarska rast višja od inflacije.
Ja ravno malenkostno. Slovaki imajo na 8 procentno rast samo 2 procenta inflacije. Ne bi bilo to bolje?
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Old December 10th, 2007, 03:33 PM   #105
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Slovenija med državami z najmanjšimi razlikami med regijami



Podatki državnega statističnega urada kažejo, da se Slovenija uvršča med skupino držav, kjer so razlike med regijami v državi najmanjše




Regionalni bruto domači proizvod (BDP) na prebivalca je bil leta 2005 v osrednjeslovenski regiji višji za 44 odstotkov od slovenskega povprečja, v pomurski regiji pa je dosegel 67 odstotkov povprečja. "Vendar pa primerjava z državami EU kaže, da se Slovenija uvršča med skupino držav, kjer so razlike med regijami v državi najmanjše", je povedala vodja sektorja za nacionalne račune na državnem statističnem uradu Karmen Hren.

Ob tem je opozorila, da v regijah na BDP na prebivalca pomembno vpliva dnevna migracija delavcev. BDP in BDP na prebivalca namreč meri skupno gospodarsko aktivnost neke regije in se ga uporablja za primerjavo stopnje ekonomske aktivnosti regij. BDP pa ne meri dohodka, ki ga na koncu prejmejo gospodinjstva oz. prebivalci v regiji, je opozorila.

Primerjava je pokazala, da so najmanjše razlike med regijami na Švedskem, Nizozemskem, Finskem, Danskem, v Španiji in nato v Sloveniji. Največje razlike pa so v Latviji, Estoniji, na Madžarskem in v Bolgariji.

http://www.finance.si/198914/Sloveni...i_med_regijami
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Old December 10th, 2007, 04:19 PM   #106
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Upamo lahko samo, da se bo inflacija zmanjšala (kot napovedujejo), medtem ko bo gospodarska rast še naprej visoka. Potem se bodo lahko zvišale plače in bomo kajkmalu tudi dohiteli zahodno evropo.
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Old December 10th, 2007, 04:29 PM   #107
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Upamo lahko samo, da se bo inflacija zmanjšala (kot napovedujejo), medtem ko bo gospodarska rast še naprej visoka. Potem se bodo lahko zvišale plače in bomo kajkmalu tudi dohiteli zahodno evropo.
Ko se bo umirjala inflacija bo se umirjala tudi gospodarska rast, kar je napovedano za prvo polovico 2008.
Če se zvišajo plače se spet poveča inflacija, gospodarska rast pa zaradi nekonkurenčnosti in slabe konjukture v glavnih izvoznih partnericah še bolj pade, in lahko pride do t.i. spiralnega efekta in recesije.

Žal bo treba še dolgooo čakat na evropske plače
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Old December 10th, 2007, 05:57 PM   #108
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najbolj me jezi ko grem v trgovino in plačam dražje kot v avstriji, cene izdelkov so katastrofalno narastle, plače pa realno seveda rastejo, vendar ne sorazmerno z ceno proizvodov!!! monopolisti !!!mo.ha ****e.s!!!
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Old December 10th, 2007, 08:04 PM   #109
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no no.. ni glih še dražje kot v Avstriji.. Drugič pejt v Hoferja pa je mir
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glede na use to bo počas začeu naraščat kriminal.uni k so bogati ratujejo glede na gospodarsko rast če bolj bogati tisti ka pa se že zdei komi preživljajo bodo pa prisiljeni glede na rast cene žreživeti nezakonito ker drugače ne bo šlo.vendar pa a mi lahko nekdo razloži tole: gospodarska rast je naprimer 6 %.torej rečmo da ima slovenija 4 miljarde eurov gospodarskega prihodka/ne vem kok ma natančno). torej 6%od tega je 360 000 000€.in kam je šu ves ta denar????namesto da bi ble cene nižje so še višje torej država še bolj dobiva. in kdo dobiva vse te miljone???kdo se mastno obogatuje
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no no.. ni glih še dražje kot v Avstriji.. Drugič pejt v Hoferja pa je mir
A v Hoferju prodajajo tudi stanovanja?
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glede na use to bo počas začeu naraščat kriminal.uni k so bogati ratujejo glede na gospodarsko rast če bolj bogati tisti ka pa se že zdei komi preživljajo bodo pa prisiljeni glede na rast cene žreživeti nezakonito ker drugače ne bo šlo.vendar pa a mi lahko nekdo razloži tole: gospodarska rast je naprimer 6 %.torej rečmo da ima slovenija 4 miljarde eurov gospodarskega prihodka/ne vem kok ma natančno). torej 6%od tega je 360 000 000€.in kam je šu ves ta denar????namesto da bi ble cene nižje so še višje torej država še bolj dobiva. in kdo dobiva vse te miljone???kdo se mastno obogatuje
Fejst maš zgrešene pojme.

BDP/GDP (bruto domači proizvod/gross domestic product) meri koliko se v nacionalnem gospodarstvu proizvede proizvodov in dobrin v enem letu.
Računa se po treh metodah.

Ena od formul je:

BDP= poraba+investicije+potrošnja države + neto izvoz (izvoz-uvoz)

BDP sploh ne pomeni koliko je kdo obogate, ampak preprosto kaže na gospodarsko aktivnost v državi, in je eden od pomembnih merilcev kvalitete življenja.

Možnosti podatkov so (Slovenija 2006):

BDP nominalno: 38,2 mrd $
BDP po pariteti kupne moči:47 mrd $
BDP nominalno/na 1 prebivalca:21.000$
BDP po pariteti kupne moči/na 1 prebivalca: 24.571$


Tokrat objavljena rast je realna 6,3% v primerjavi s prejšnij 3 četrtletjem, medtem, ko je nominalna rast 10,5%.

Letošnja celoletna rast naj bi bila 6,5%, oziroma nominalna 11%.

Kar pomeni, da se bo BDP iz 38,2 mrd$ zvišal na 42,1mrd$

TO je dobra novica, saj pomeni zvišanje BDP ja večjo zaposlenost, višje plače, višjo makroekonomsko stabilnost.

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A v Hoferju prodajajo tudi stanovanja?
Tolko promocijskega papirja kot pa Hofer pošilja domov.. bi pa lahko sam vedel
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Aja Skapre, neenakomernost porazdelitve prihodkov se pa meri s t.i. GINIJEVIM koeficientom.

Slovenski GINI koeficient je 26, kar pomeni, da smo 4 na svetu po najbolj enakomernih prihodkih. Recimo Ameriški GINI je nad 48.
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Hm, hakelc.

BDP se očitno meri v dolarjih. Dolar pa je v zadnjem času močno padel glede na evro (ki je, mimogrede, naša domača valuta). Torej smo v zadnjem letu dni dejansko doživeli gospodarski padec, ali kako?
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BDP nominalno/na 1 prebivalca:21.000$
BDP po pariteti kupne moči/na 1 prebivalca: 24.571$[/I]
To je aritmetična sredina. Mediana je javnosti seveda neznana.
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Rakec to so te v šoli naučili
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no se opravičujem glede stanovanj v hoferju ali kaj? aja hofer prodaja stanovanja...ne razumem zdaj kolikšen je recipročni koeficient simulitete simulansa v rubikovi kocki?!?!

aja mediana ja dober stimulans rakcovi copy paste teoriji, če vas zanima statistika samo mene vprašajte
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Hm, hakelc.

BDP se očitno meri v dolarjih. Dolar pa je v zadnjem času močno padel glede na evro (ki je, mimogrede, naša domača valuta). Torej smo v zadnjem letu dni dejansko doživeli gospodarski padec, ali kako?

V zadnjem letu smo pridobili, saj dobiš za manj € več $. BDP pa je drugače izražen v t.i. internacionalnih dolarjih, ki minimalizirajo apreciacijo, ali deaprecijacijo ali devalvacijo ali revalvacijo valute

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To je aritmetična sredina. Mediana je javnosti seveda neznana.

Pri BDPju se nikol ne računa mediana, ker ne gre za računanje porazdelitve.

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no se opravičujem glede stanovanj v hoferju ali kaj? aja hofer prodaja stanovanja...ne razumem zdaj kolikšen je recipročni koeficient simulitete simulansa v rubikovi kocki?!?!

aja mediana ja dober stimulans rakcovi copy paste teoriji, če vas zanima statistika samo mene vprašajte
No tauru5 ne rabiš bit žaljiv. To ni copy paste teorija, ampak prihaja iz moje glave To sn se logično naučil v srednji šoli in zaj na faksu.
Statistika je pa res lahko največja laž. Če statistika kaže, da je v kozarcu 50% tekočine, čisto drugače zveni če nekdo reče, da je kozarec pol poln, ali pa če nekdo reče da je pol prazn. Statistika je stvar interpretacije.

BDP je vsekako pomemben kazalec, tudi o kvaliteti življenja. NPR: Avstrijski BDP na prebivalca je 2x večji od Slovenskega, in tudi plače so 2x višje.
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Hm, hakelc.

BDP se očitno meri v dolarjih. Dolar pa je v zadnjem času močno padel glede na evro (ki je, mimogrede, naša domača valuta). Torej smo v zadnjem letu dni dejansko doživeli gospodarski padec, ali kako?

V zadnjem letu smo pridobili, saj dobiš za manj € več $. BDP pa je drugače izražen v t.i. internacionalnih dolarjih, ki minimalizirajo apreciacijo, ali deaprecijacijo ali devalvacijo ali revalvacijo valute

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To je aritmetična sredina. Mediana je javnosti seveda neznana.

Pri BDPju se nikol ne računa mediana, ker ne gre za računanje porazdelitve.

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no se opravičujem glede stanovanj v hoferju ali kaj? aja hofer prodaja stanovanja...ne razumem zdaj kolikšen je recipročni koeficient simulitete simulansa v rubikovi kocki?!?!

aja mediana ja dober stimulans rakcovi copy paste teoriji, če vas zanima statistika samo mene vprašajte
No tauru5 ne rabiš bit žaljiv. To ni copy paste teorija, ampak prihaja iz moje glave To sn se logično naučil v srednji šoli in zaj na faksu.
Statistika je pa res lahko največja laž. Če statistika kaže, da je v kozarcu 50% tekočine, čisto drugače zveni če nekdo reče, da je kozarec pol poln, ali pa če nekdo reče da je pol prazn. Statistika je stvar interpretacije.

BDP je vsekako pomemben kazalec, tudi o kvaliteti življenja. NPR: Avstrijski BDP na prebivalca je 2x večji od Slovenskega, in tudi plače so 2x višje.

Ne vem zakaj zdaj tolko filozofirate, pač sem objavil podatek o gospodarski rast, ki je po mojem mnenju izjemno pomemben, saj kaže tako trenutno stanje gospodarstva, kvalitete življenja, plač, kot tudi prihodnje.
Praktično gledano je od BDP ja odvisno kako živimo, in kako bomo živeli
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