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Old April 1st, 2007, 11:16 PM   #1
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The official Shanghai Malgev Extension Thread.

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Construction on a maglev line connecting Longyang Road and Hongqiao
Airport has been given the green light.
.......

The project is part of the much-discussed maglev system between
Shanghai and Hangzhou. Other parts of the plan - downtown Shanghai to
Jiaxing, and Jiaxing to East Hangzhou Station - will not be carried
out until after the World Expo 2010, according to an unidentified
source from the municipal government, the 21 Century Business Herald
reported.

The city started relocating residents and preparing the land for the
project in October, 2006.

This marks the greatest progress since the National Development and
Reform Commission approved construction on the maglev line between
Hangzhou and Shanghai.

The line in downtown Shanghai is part of the city's high-speed public
transportation system between two airports, the newspaper said.

The route should minimize traffic congestion, and would have little
impact on the lives of people who were being relocated, according to
Professor Sun Zhang from Tongji University.

Shanghai has completed a maglev line from the subway station of
Longyang Road to the Pudong airport.

The new maglev will start from Longyang Road, crossing the Expo site,
through Huangpu River by a tunnel at Yaohua Zhi Road to the western
bank of the river.
Then the line heads west, making a north turn at Zhongchun Road until
it reaches the Hongqiao Airport.

The airport, already a major transport hub, will be pivotal as a
terminal for the future Shanghai-Beijing high-speed railway, the
Chinese newspaper quoted professor Sun as saying.

The blueprint of the Shanghai-Hangzhou maglev line is T-shaped, with
part going to Hangzhou by a south turn at Zhongchun Road from Shanghai.

"The line from Hongqiao to Pudong airport is more urgent for the time
being, and it's practical," Sun said. "The other line can be
completed in the future through cooperation with Zhejiang Province.

"This is an extension to the existing maglev. You can call it Phase
One of Shanghai-Hangzhou Maglev project, or the Shanghai part of it.

"It's not exactly a high-speed public transportation between
airports," he added, suggesting that instead of a municipal
construction, this marked the start of the first cross-city maglev line.

But defining it as a "municipal transportation" made it easier to
attract funding, Sun said.

Smooth transportation for the World Expo 2010 was the catalyst to
launch Shanghai's maglev early.

According to official estimates, more than 70 million people will
visit the site from May to October 2010, a major challenge for
Shanghai's transport network.

"Overseas experience has shown that rail transportation plays the key
role in the expo transportation," Sun said.

"Especially transportation outside of the city center. For example,
there should be rail transportation to the expo side from the airport
and railway station."

Even after the Expo 2010, a high-speed transportation line was
necessary for Shanghai's future, Sun told 21 Century Economy Report.
"The world expo is in urgent preparation now. The project can't be
delayed any longer," Sun said.

"The work is done as discussion goes on."

http://www.einnews.com/users/splash_...17399287%5C%22

http://en.ce.cn/Industries/Transport...10796820.shtml

http://www.shanghaidaily.com/sp/arti...cle_310089.htm

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SHANGHAI has reportedly received state approval to extend its magnetic-levitation train line to Hongqiao Airport as part of a high-speed transport link between the city and Hangzhou.

The go-ahead for the project came from the National Development and Reform Commission, the 21st Century Business Herald reported yesterday, citing an unidentified source in city government.

The reported approval of the Hongqiao link follows the decision last March by the country's top economic planning body to build a 35 billion yuan (US$4.5 billion) maglev line between Shanghai and Hangzhou, capital of neighboring Zhejiang Province.

According to the newspaper, Shanghai began to set aside land and relocate residents in October to pave the way for the construction.

....

The extension will be sited along waterways and existing rail tracks as much as possible to avoid disrupting traffic and the lives of residents, said Sun Zhang, a professor at Tongji University.

The current line, which carries trains on a field of magnetic energy, runs from the Pudong International Airport to the Longyang Road Metro Station. The new link will go from Longyang to Hongqiao International Airport, with stops at the site of the 2010 World Expo and the Shanghai South Railway Station.

Construction on the segment from Shanghai to Jiaxing, a small city in Zhejiang, and from Jiaxing to Hangzhou may start after 2010, the newspaper report said. If so, that would represent a delay from the previously announced schedule, which called for the Shanghai-Hangzhou link to be completed in time for the World Expo.

Shanghai will be in charge of the construction of the Shanghai-Jiaxing stretch, and the remainder will be built by Zhejiang Province, the report said.

Reaching speeds up to 450 kilometers an hour, trains will take a half hour to make the 175-kilometer trip between Shanghai and Hangzhou, compared with about two hours now.

The Herald said the Shanghai section will start construction first, as the city needs



So, we are waiting desperately for construction pictures, or at least pictures of the clearing of the constructin site

This is what construction of the first maglev line looked like


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Old January 3rd, 2008, 04:35 AM   #4
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Maglev takes turn for the better

http://www.shanghaidaily.com/sp/arti...cle_343772.htm

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By Zhang Jun 2008-1-3

THE planned Maglev line from Longyang Road Metro Station to Hongqiao International Airport has a new route, planners announced yesterday.

The plan for the new route has been placed on the official Website of Shanghai Urban Planning Administrative Bureau and the city's environment hotline website, to assess the public's reaction over the next two weeks.

The new extension part - or as called in the plan a "branch of the Shanghai-Hangzhou Maglev Line" - will run 31.8 kilometers, three kilometers shorter than an earlier plan. The name indicates that planning for a Maglev line to Hangzhou, Zhejiang Province, is under way though no details are as yet forthcoming.

The map on the Website shows that the new Maglev line will run from the Longyang Road Metro Station, through the Bailianjing Area in Pudong, the entrance for 2010 World Expo site, and travel under the Huangpu River to reach Puxi.

In Puxi, it will link with the Shanghai South Railway Station and the Lianhua Road Metro Station before reaching the Hongqiao station interchange.

In Minhang District in Puxi, the line will run along the Dianpu River, a tributary of the Huangpu River. In an earlier plan, the line covered a longer distance.

The Website plan does not talk about the budget for the line or when work on it will begin. The project headquarters had no comment.

"The new route will reduce the impact of noise on nearby residents," Sun Zhang, a professor of rail transport of Tongji University who participated in the Maglev planning, said yesterday.

He said the major purpose of the revised route was to keep the line away from residential areas as much as possible, particularly the section in Minhang District.

To limit the noise in the downtown area, the speed of trains on the extension line will be kept to between 200kmh and 300kmh, Sun said.

The current Maglev runs at a maximum speed of 431kmh over the 30 kilometers between Pudong International Airport and the Longyang Road Metro Station and takes eight minutes.

He said the Hongqiao station interchange, where the western terminal is located, will also include the Shanghai-Beijing high speed terminal.
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Old January 3rd, 2008, 06:36 AM   #5
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an thats how its going to look like:

http://www.shghj.gov.cn/News_Show.aspx?id=9725




























If my interpretation is right, they want to tear down the existing maglev station at longyang road, and build a new one besides it.
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Old January 3rd, 2008, 06:54 AM   #6
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an thats how its going to look like:

If my interpretation is right, they want to tear down the existing maglev station at longyang road, and build a new one besides it.
great graphs. yes the maglev Longyang station will have to move north into Wanbang Square. That answers my Longyang station demolishment question.
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Old January 3rd, 2008, 07:02 AM   #7
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great graphs. yes the maglev Longyang station will have to move north into Wanbang Square. That answers my Longyang station demolishment question.
Now thats weired.

Its a really beautyfull, just 4 years old station !
Now they want to tear it down, and "move" it 100-150 meter to the north?





Is my interpretation right, that the new Longyang road maglev station will already be underground?
Because considering the first graphic, it looks like the stretch towards the west starting at longyang road will be a 5,5 km long tunnel, right?
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Old January 3rd, 2008, 08:44 AM   #8
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it is a pity to tear down a new station. but otherwise the maglev extension is not possible in the near future.

Much of the adjustment (new station, underground route) is to deal with the pressure from the local residents (noise, radiation etc).

But they simply have no much choice because imo the project leader knows clearly that the extension can't wait with subway line 2 extension's opening. Subway Line 2, which will extend to Pudong airport, will kill the maglev directly if the latter remains the same route and price.

Anyway it's a good move.Hopefully they can build a better Longyang maglev station.
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Old January 3rd, 2008, 03:07 PM   #9
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actually, in order for the maglev to survive, i think that the route should be revised again... it should have a route that will pass under Lujiazui and The Bund and have stations in those areas in order to attract tourists and businessmen then go to the Expo 2010 site then go to Hongquiao Airport
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Old January 4th, 2008, 12:01 PM   #10
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Maglev costs could more than double
By Wang Zhenghua (China Daily)
Updated: 2008-01-04 07:28


SHANGHAI: The cost of extending the city's maglev railway could be twice the original budget due to proposed revisions to minimize the impact on local residents, a source said Thursday.

A revised plan of the proposed route, published on the website of the city's urban planning administrative bureau, shows the line connecting Longyang Road with Hongqiao Airport, while avoiding densely populated areas.

Residents had earlier expressed concern about the possible health threat from magnetic fields around the railway.

The source told China Daily that costs could jump from 200 million ($27.5 million) to 500 million yuan for each kilometer of the extended line.

This is because a wider buffer zone between residents and the line has been proposed.

The government is yet to approve any extra funding.

There are also plans to extend the maglev line to the resort city of Hangzhou in Zhejiang Province.

The National Development and Reform Commission, is working to establish a company to head the project, the source said.

The Ministry of Railways and the Shanghai municipal government will each finance 40 percent of the total investment - which the source declined to disclose - for the Shanghai-Hangzhou maglev.

Zhejiang will finance the remainder.

Under the revised proposal, the Shanghai extension will stretch 31.8 km, 3 km less than originally planned, with significant "detours" away from residential areas. The changes were made because of residents' fears about perceived exposure to radiation and noise, the source said.

In response, authorities last year carried out environmental impact studies.

The revised route will be open for public comment for the next two weeks.

"Experiments have shown that the electromagnetic radiation is minimal compared with what is emitted from electronics appliances in the home," the source said.

"But the noise is a problem."

The Shanghai government is unlikely to abandon plans for the extended line, because 10 billion yuan has already been invested in the project, the source said.

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Debate over maglev route rolls onward
By Wang Zhenghua (China Daily)
Updated: 2008-01-09 07:16



SHANGHAI: Residents living near the new route of the city's maglev train have filed petitions demanding the plan be further revised.

The extension will connect Hongqiao airport and Longyang Road. The maglev runs between Longyang Road and Pudong airport and is the world's only commercial maglev railway.

The revised route, which could cost as much as twice the original budget, avoids densely populated areas and includes a wider buffer zone to reduce noise. The plan is currently open to public comment.

However, residents have been expressing their dissatisfaction with the new route via e-mails, calls and online forums.

A resident named Wuhedeng from the Shangnan Huacheng residential community wrote on a Web board that the new plan had made him uneasy.

"In the new plan, (some sections) pass by the community or go underground, but (the part) near the Expo garden is still exposed we are forced to 'enjoy' the noise and radiation that the new technology brings to us every day," he wrote.

But maglev experts dismissed radiation concerns, saying the government had widened the buffer zone to reduce noise.

Sun Zhang, a professor at Tongji University, said: "Experiments have shown the electromagnetic radiation is minimal compared with what is emitted by electronic appliances.

"Onboard, the electromagnetic radiation is only one-fifth of that from a color TV. But noise may be a problem."

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Perfect. The new malev extension route's cost has already doubled. To get every person satisfied, I guess Shanghai has to build an underground maglev line.
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Ahh, so here's where the SH maglev thread is. No wonder I couldn't find it - it says "malgev" in the title!

Could anyone change it?
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If I'm wrong, please correct me.
How may it reach Hongqiao Airport, if it is in the West and Pudong Airport is in the East, even South-East I'd say. Will Maglev line skirt around the city?
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Old January 14th, 2008, 08:40 AM   #16
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Shanghai still owes ten BILLION loans to national bank because of the current maglev trains.

I just hope Beijing & Shanghai can learn from Guangzhou----Using its own money instead of using the tax money from central government.
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Its on loan and will be returned when the time matures.
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FACTBOX-Five facts about Shanghai's high-speed Maglev train

Jan 15 (Reuters) - Hundreds of Shanghai residents protested at the weekend against plans to extend the city's magnetic levitation, or "maglev", train route into the city.

Here are some key facts on the high-speed train:

* Launched in China in 2003, Shanghai's system is the only commercial maglev in operation in the world. Built by the Chinese government and a German consortium, it cost a reported $1.4 billion.

* Instead of having wheels like regular trains, the maglev train floats on a magnetic cushion between the vehicle and track, and is held on the tracks by electromagnetic pull.

* The Shanghai maglev travels at a top speed of about 430 km (267 miles) per hour. The world's fastest train, France's TGV, was clocked at a record speed of 574.8 km per hour (357.2 miles per hour) in April 2007.

* The maglev currently runs 30 km (19 miles) between an outlying part of Shanghai's financial district in Pudong and the international airport. The city government wants to extend the train's route by 32 km (20 miles) through Shanghai to near the city's domestic airport, saying this would speed travel between the airports and pose no threat to public safety.

* But public opposition has grown since December 2007, with residents along the planned route complaining about the noise and claiming the electromagnetic radiation could damage their health.

Sources: Reuters, Shanghai Maglev Official Website
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Perfect. The new malev extension route's cost has already doubled. To get every person satisfied, I guess Shanghai has to build an underground maglev line.
...or perhaps pay for the effect on nearby property, as the US and Europe generally do. Why do you suppose it's so cheap in China? They just screw the locals over.
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