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Old January 30th, 2008, 12:15 AM   #1
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[LJUBLJANA] - kako jo vidijo drugi/How others see it

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Old January 30th, 2008, 12:19 AM   #2
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Central Europe's undiscovered capital is wonderfully eccentric, writes David Whitley.

Članek o Ljubljani iz Avstralskega FairFax le prva stran od treh - link do celega članka


January 13, 2008

It's hard to know what to think while being molested by two marauding dragons, both of whom want to dance with you. And that's the sort of thing that can happen in Ljubljana, it appears. A quiet stroll down the river bank and you're accosted by men in ridiculous costumes, intent on being photographed while you partake in an energetic jig together. Lord only knows what the chap cycling past on a pennyfarthing must think.

The Slovenian capital revels in a quiet eccentricity, particularly during summer, when it appears all the wannabe loons come out of the woodwork to make curiosities of themselves in public.

There is a possibility that this outpouring of mild wackiness is due to the summer festival. After all, there are jazz bands on street corners and jugglers dotted liberally around - but there's a sneaking suspicion that this passes for normality round these parts.

Among all the former East European capitals, Ljubljana is unique - and not just because it makes for an excellent Scrabble score (if you're allowing proper nouns). For a start the Slovenians would bristle at their proud little country being lumped in with Eastern Europe: it is most definitely central, thank you very much. It is above the Balkans, not part of them, and a fair stretch of historically Slovenian territory is now found in Italy and Austria.

Of all the countries that joined the European Union in its last great expansion, Slovenia was best placed, up to the point that many people considered it was better sitting on the outside like Switzerland, a country it is often compared to.

Still, join it did and the relatively callow nation immediately became a net financial contributor to the union, quickly replacing the tolar with the euro.

It is perhaps this relative prosperity that has saved Ljubljana from the curse of many other East European capitals - the stag party. Prague has long been overrun by men in comic team T-shirts, grunting and way-heying as they attempt to impress local women with formaldehyde-strength beer breath. Alas Tallinn, Bratislava and particularly Riga have followed suit. Money-flinging West Europeans flock to take advantage of cheap beer and local tourist industries willing to accept the cash-for-behaviour trade-off.

Ljubljana is mercifully untouched by semi-naked men tied to lampposts, drunks falling asleep in fountains and the soon-to-be-married going upstairs in strip bars. This is partly because the prices aren't quite as cheap. It's still possible to live like a king on a relatively small budget but the pound, euro or dollar won't go as far as it does further east.
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Old January 30th, 2008, 01:03 AM   #3
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Old January 30th, 2008, 08:19 AM   #4
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Old January 30th, 2008, 03:26 PM   #5
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Se spomne kdo mogoče članka, mislim da je blo lani, ko so ameri napisali nevem kaka vsa priporočila za us državljane, ki nameravajo obiskat Slovenijo. Pisali so o nevarnostih okužbe z vodo, hrano pa na kaj se je potrebno cepiti...vglavnem, blo je smešno sam hkrati bedasto!
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Old January 30th, 2008, 08:55 PM   #6
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Ja se spomne - v Slovenijo it, je blu slabše kot v Kenijo (skoraj)
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Old January 30th, 2008, 09:04 PM   #7
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V bistvu take bedastoče pišejo za vse evropske države.
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Old January 31st, 2008, 01:28 PM   #8
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Tale filmček se mi dopade: http://video.msn.com/?mkt=en-au&bran...-1:ind:1:ff:8A (najprej se zavrti precej dolga reklama)

Izvira pa iz avstralije.
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Old January 31st, 2008, 02:26 PM   #9
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^ Ja, ql, edin muska je mal preveč naglas.
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Old January 31st, 2008, 02:56 PM   #10
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what a wonderful place on earth, I would say
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Old January 31st, 2008, 03:01 PM   #11
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Oglasna reportaža, ki gotovo prodaja - lepo predstavljeno
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Old January 31st, 2008, 03:23 PM   #12
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January 13, 2008

It's hard to know what to think while being molested by two marauding dragons, both of whom want to dance with you. And that's the sort of thing that can happen in Ljubljana, it appears. A quiet stroll down the river bank and you're accosted by men in ridiculous costumes, intent on being photographed while you partake in an energetic jig together. Lord only knows what the chap cycling past on a pennyfarthing must think.

The Slovenian capital revels in a quiet eccentricity, particularly during summer, when it appears all the wannabe loons come out of the woodwork to make curiosities of themselves in public.

There is a possibility that this outpouring of mild wackiness is due to the summer festival. After all, there are jazz bands on street corners and jugglers dotted liberally around - but there's a sneaking suspicion that this passes for normality round these parts.

Among all the former East European capitals, Ljubljana is unique - and not just because it makes for an excellent Scrabble score (if you're allowing proper nouns). For a start the Slovenians would bristle at their proud little country being lumped in with Eastern Europe: it is most definitely central, thank you very much. It is above the Balkans, not part of them, and a fair stretch of historically Slovenian territory is now found in Italy and Austria.

Of all the countries that joined the European Union in its last great expansion, Slovenia was best placed, up to the point that many people considered it was better sitting on the outside like Switzerland, a country it is often compared to.

Still, join it did and the relatively callow nation immediately became a net financial contributor to the union, quickly replacing the tolar with the euro.

It is perhaps this relative prosperity that has saved Ljubljana from the curse of many other East European capitals - the stag party. Prague has long been overrun by men in comic team T-shirts, grunting and way-heying as they attempt to impress local women with formaldehyde-strength beer breath. Alas Tallinn, Bratislava and particularly Riga have followed suit. Money-flinging West Europeans flock to take advantage of cheap beer and local tourist industries willing to accept the cash-for-behaviour trade-off.

Ljubljana is mercifully untouched by semi-naked men tied to lampposts, drunks falling asleep in fountains and the soon-to-be-married going upstairs in strip bars. This is partly because the prices aren't quite as cheap. It's still possible to live like a king on a relatively small budget but the pound, euro or dollar won't go as far as it does further east.

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The second reason is the lack of cheap flights into the country. While much of the rest of Europe is bombarded with budget carriers, until recently Slovenia has been something of a black hole. This is beginning to change and it'll be interesting to see what happens to Ljubljana as a result.

In the meantime, enjoy. It's a wonderful city in which to go out for a few drinks in everything from skeleton-themed bars to converted military barracks. But without the table-thumping and vomit.

In this compact city with fewer than 300,000 residents, everything is centred around the Ljubljanica River. Terrace cafes and restaurants line the banks as people fight tooth and nail for the best stools: tall perches next to the tiny circular tables right on the edge of the water.

Many of the bridges have long since been colonised by artists and craftsmen offering anything from portraits to ceramics, all displayed on the paving slabs.

Looming over the town is the castle and once you've clambered up to it over steep paths you realise why so many people at the bottom are gasping for a drink. What is a fairly tough climb at any time becomes thoroughly difficult on a summer's day, but you can see way out above the city from the little park next to it. Unfortunately, this view also includes the funicular railway, which would have made getting up there in the first place far less strenuous.

On the other side of the river is the Park Tivoli, which seems to be home to just about everything. Aside from the usual accoutrements such as picnic lawns and basketball courts, it seems as though every conceivable interest is packed in, whether that's a radio studio or a chess club.

Also on the fringe is one of the world's strangest art galleries. Crammed among three other expensively furnished museums is the Museum of Modern Art. It's in a rather unloveable building; renovations are planned to improve the exhibition space.

In the period of limbo before the construction workers move in, however, it has been thrown open to anyone who fancies a pop at creating something. This means the current exhibition, which is possibly too strong a word for it, is a complete mish-mash called Every Man Is A Curator. Locals, schoolchildren, interested parties from abroad and struggling artists have all been allowed to have their say in what should be included. It appears as though they've just allowed everything in, trying to keep everyone happy, offering free entry until the powers that be finally get round to the building work.
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Mercifully, this complete lack of running theme is what makes it so thoroughly engaging. A good 80 per cent of the exhibits are utterly mystifying: one man appears to have turned a room into a beach surrounded by climbing frames and boxes, while another artist has decided to place a couple of wheelchairs opposite a row of test tubes and left it at that. Then there's the music box with a big bar of chocolate placed on top for no apparent reason.

Most charming of the lot is a black-painted wall with a viewing hole at waist height and a tiny stool perched next to it, forcing visitors to either crouch or sit to have a look inside.

When they do, they are greeted by a herd of multi-coloured gnomes smiling back at them. Very Ljubljana.

TRIP NOTES

Getting there: Ljubljana is in central Slovenia. The nearest international flight hubs are Venice (four hours by train), Munich (61/2hours) and Vienna (six hours). For cheap connecting flights, London (with easyJet) and Brussels (with Wizz Air) are the best bets.

More information: The national tourist office website is helpful. See www.slovenia.info.
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Old January 31st, 2008, 03:58 PM   #13
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bi je predolg - zato je na vrhu naveden link na celoten članek
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Old February 5th, 2008, 06:29 PM   #14
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Še en članek od NY Times o Sloveniji in Ljubljani, kjer nas PREhvali v vseh mogočih pogledih. Priporočam, da si ogledate.

http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpag...pagewanted=all

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V novinarskem slogu malo pretirano, pri članku pa pogrešam vsaj malo slikico katerega od krajev, ki jih omenja.
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V novinarskem slogu malo pretirano, pri članku pa pogrešam vsaj malo slikico katerega od krajev, ki jih omenja.
Če prebereš zadnji dodatek, opisuje, da so narobe pisali imena na slikah. Torej so v samem časniku ble slike
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Old February 6th, 2008, 06:23 PM   #17
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Še en članek od NY Times o Sloveniji in Ljubljani, kjer nas PREhvali v vseh mogočih pogledih. Priporočam, da si ogledate.

http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpag...pagewanted=all

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Bi med igro monopolija "kupili" Ljubljano?
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Old April 29th, 2008, 08:17 AM   #19
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Slovenija - kako jo vidi The Sun

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Britanski tabloid: Slovenci se radi slačijo

Pred kratkim se je po sončni strani Alp potepal novinar britanskega tabloida Sun. Slovenija ga je presenetila s svojimi naravnimi lepotami, Slovence pa označil za ljudi, ki se radi slačimo

Britanski tabloid The Sun se je v petek razpisal o Sloveniji in slovenskih letoviščih. Britanski novinar je namreč obiskal slovensko zdravilišče Terme Čatež in ugotovil, da se Slovenci zelo radi slačimo. Prav tako meni, da so Britanci po naravi drugačni od nas in zelo sramežljivi, ko se je potrebno sleči. Razen če nimajo izklesanega telesa kot slačifant Chippendalesov.

V Termah Čatež si je privoščil savno in rimsko-irsko kopeli in bil sprva zelo presenečen, saj se je moral popolnoma sleči, nato pa se je kopal v mrzlih in vročih bazenih. Kopanje je bilo po njegovem pisanju poživljajoče, celotna terapija z masažo pa zelo sproščujoča.

Sunov novinar še piše, da lahko starši pustijo otroke v vodnem parku, ki ponuja več kot Florida, prednost pa je tudi ta, da je cenejše leteti po Evropi, kot v ZDA.

"Slovenija je očarljiva"

"Slovenija očarljiva država, kjer je možno preživljati počitnice tako poleti kot pozimi," je zapisal. Omenil je še, da Angleži radi zahajajo tudi v Bohinj, smučajo pa v Kranjski Gori. Cene naših smučišč so po njegovih besedah konkurenčne drugim v Evropi, ceneje pa je le v Bolgariji.

Slovenijo tako po velikosti primerja z Walesom, kjer lahko preživite nekaj dni v hribih, nato pa se odpravite sproščat v zdravilišča. Članku pa so priložili tudi sliko blejskega jezera, ki so jo podpisali "Lepa... slovenska obala".
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Old April 29th, 2008, 08:30 AM   #20
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Slovenia - the naked truth
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Beautiful ... Slovenia coast

Published: 25 Apr 2008

HERE'S the naked truth - British men are shy when it comes to taking their kit off.

Unless of course, if you have the abs and pecs of a Chippendale stripper or the toned physique of soccer hero David Beckham. But even the England star would think twice about stripping down to his birthday suit in front of complete strangers. But that's the order of the day when you book in at Terme Catez, one of the most popular holiday destinations in Slovenia. Known as "The Thermal Riviera" because of its naturally warm waters,Terme Catez is a giant water park that boasts an impressive array of pools, slides, and other amenities aimed at pleasing families. But also on the site is a famed spa and leisure centre where adults can go to be pampered.

Spas used to the favourite bolt hole for the rich and famous - but not anymore. They have become increasingly popular with the more up market hotels the perfect place to idle away the stresses and strains on everyday life. Slovenia's top spa resort,however, is not for the faint hearted.

Strip

Forget about Scandinavians' reputation for getting naked - the Slovenians really like to strip. Those easily shocked should be warned there is a lot of flesh on show. Modesty, as well as swimming trunks, go out of the window as you join mixed sessions at the spa. For most people - even a hardened Sun reporter - it can come as much of a shock as the icy cold waters used in many of the treatments. One of the most popular treatments is to spend a few hours relaxing in the Roman-Irish baths.

Our party of six women and three men were ushered into the changing room and told to get undressed. While the females abandoned their clothes with haste, we males stood rooted to the spot,clinging to our clothes and looking for the nearest exit. Escape was out of the question and an assistant ordered us to strip, and pointed to the sauna. At least in here I hoped there would be towel. Wrong. Everything was as bare as the wooden benches. After five minutes any embarrassment quickly disappeared and it then became possible to to lie back and enjoy the treatment. After five minutes sweltering in the sauna we were directed to a plunge pool filled with freezing cold water. The screams and expletives from a Scot in our party as he sank beneath the freezing had spa staff fearing the worst.

After a spell in a hot water pool, then back into the icy water it became apparent the Roman-Irish treatment consisted of alternating in waters of different temperature. Why a Roman-Irish bath -- presumably, the hot water mirrored the heat of a steamy Rome afternoon while the cold, a damp,miserable day in Galway.

And so for the next hour we alternated between the hot and cold pools. It was certainly invigorating and after a gentle massage we were shown into a darkened room with beds shaped like an S. We were tightly wrapped in a several layers of towels and placed on individual beds. Wrapped so snugly I felt like a sausage roll, but once the lights were dimmed and soft piped music began playing I dropped off. The room was aptly called "The Relaxarium" and after the effect of the hot and cold water it certainly did the trick --leaving me more relaxed than I had felt in weeks.

Many of the Slovenia's top sportsmen and women are regulars at Terme Catez.

The Roman-Irish bath is just one of the treatments on offer at centre which is aimed at pampering and making its guests feel good. There are numerous health and therapeutic programmes with a team of skilled and friendly staff who all speak English and offering advice on what to choose.

While stressed out parents head for the spa, kids can enjoy the more active areas of the second largest tourist resort in Slovenia. The water parks is as impressive as anything Florida has to offer, with the big advantage being it costs much less to fly to Europe now so many "no frills airlines" are in business.

Terme Catez likes to boast summer never ends at their resort as the pool waters are heated to over 80 degrees during the winter months. There are also several indoors pools, as well as whirlpools and underwater massage pools. The main area includes a wave pool, giant slide and a toboggan run which are enough to keep the most energetic kid happy. Other outdoor activities include tennis, cycling, archery, horse riding and even angling.

Visitors have a choice of three hotels to stay in, ranging from the budget option at the Aqua Park hotel to the more luxurious Hotel Terme. Rooms are very comfortable with satellite TV and decent sized bathrooms.

The holiday centre, in the east of the country, also includes has own casino and is a good base to explore other parts of the country, including Castle Mokrice and the wine growing region of Bizeljsko.

Slovenia is a charming country which is able to offer both winter and summer holidays. It's most famous ski resort is Kransja Gora, although the Alpine lake resort of Bohinj is becoming increasingly popular with visitors from the UK.

Sited in the heart of the Julian Alps there are two ski resorts at Vogel and Kobla. Prices are among the most competitive of any ski resort in Europe, with only Bulgaria cheaper. As the country is so small, about the size of Wales, it is perfectly possible to spend a few days on the slopes before relaxing at Terme Catez to soothe away the stresses and strains of being on the piste.
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