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Old February 17th, 2008, 10:07 AM   #301
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Guys, I think it is a rather pointless debate over who was Hungarian and who was Slovak. It must be noted that it is not us who can judge this. One is Hungarian or Slovak (or some other nationalites) when he or she considers him/herself Hungarian or Slovak for that matter. We simply can't judge, it is a personal decision!
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Old February 17th, 2008, 11:25 AM   #302
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I have to agree with Peti. There are many examples where for us it is obvious that the person is Hungarian, yet an other nation consider it as their "own". Perfect example would be Teller Ede (Edward Teller): "Hungarian-born American theoretical physicist". We have to respect these people, no matter what nationalities they had during their lifes.

Btw, have you heard that Jesus was Hungarian?
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Old February 17th, 2008, 11:45 AM   #303
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I have to agree with Peti. There are many examples where for us it is obvious that the person is Hungarian, yet an other nation consider it as their "own". Perfect example would be Teller Ede (Edward Teller): "Hungarian-born American theoretical physicist". We have to respect these people, no matter what nationalities they had during their lifes.

Btw, have you heard that Jesus was Hungarian?
Yeah,with Sumerian blood
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Old February 17th, 2008, 12:34 PM   #304
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Okay, guys. I did not want to start a flame here and I see that it did not happen anyway, this is why I am glad and I appreciate very cultivated discussion from all of you.

I just convinced myself that many of the famous people born in present Slovakia that are in every Slovak textbook mentioned as Slovak, in all Hungarian textbooks are mentioned as Hungarians or Magyars. I would never wonder about Jedlík being Hungarian if I read it before and learned it at school. But now, the people in Slovakia and Hungary and probably in all over the rest of the world are not clear about things like this, cause our textbooks does not contain the same data about the nationalities of some people.

Also, I always heard and learned his Slovak name only (Štefan Anián Jedlík (btw, Jedlík is typical Slovak name, imo (like Petzval) ) ), this is why I never expected he had also some Hungarian name

Anyway, it is good the both Slovakia and Hungary had a lot of great scientists and artists.
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Old February 17th, 2008, 01:14 PM   #306
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Okay, guys. I did not want to start a flame here and I see that it did not happen anyway, this is why I am glad and I appreciate very cultivated discussion from all of you.

I just convinced myself that many of the famous people born in present Slovakia that are in every Slovak textbook mentioned as Slovak, in all Hungarian textbooks are mentioned as Hungarians or Magyars. I would never wonder about Jedlík being Hungarian if I read it before and learned it at school. But now, the people in Slovakia and Hungary and probably in all over the rest of the world are not clear about things like this, cause our textbooks does not contain the same data about the nationalities of some people.

Also, I always heard and learned his Slovak name only (Štefan Anián Jedlík (btw, Jedlík is typical Slovak name, imo (like Petzval) ) ), this is why I never expected he had also some Hungarian name

Anyway, it is good the both Slovakia and Hungary had a lot of great scientists and artists.
The think what we should have is a textbook like what german and french schools have...they made one together,which presents a middle way between both side's views.
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I have to agree with Peti. There are many examples where for us it is obvious that the person is Hungarian, yet an other nation consider it as their "own". Perfect example would be Teller Ede (Edward Teller): "Hungarian-born American theoretical physicist". We have to respect these people, no matter what nationalities they had during their lifes.

Btw, have you heard that Jesus was Hungarian?
Jesus was Hungarian, that's undisputable, although I don't understand a word I know she is right:

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You dont want to know what she saysThat video is the most funny thing in this decade
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Old February 17th, 2008, 02:00 PM   #309
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You dont want to know what she saysThat video is the most funny thing in this decade
But, I want to know what does she say.
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Old February 17th, 2008, 02:19 PM   #310
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The think what we should have is a textbook like what german and french schools have...they made one together,which presents a middle way between both side's views.
But we are doing the same thing. I think the textbook should be in schools in a few years.
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But, I want to know what does she say.
She doesnt watch tv becuase she is a god-fearing person,and through the tv-screen comes the evil,and tries to make us commit sins.
She sometimes listens to the news on the radio,but thats all. She advises all to avoid doing so(watching tv),because we're in the final times,
not much time left for humanity in this form,because Christ comes down 2nd time,and its not very far,she doesnt give 15 years for humanity. Now the anti-christ-satan
provokes wars in the world,which will come in the final form of a new world war. But since there will be a huge erthquake,which will make the ocean flood America and Europe(why not Asia and Africa?)
The choosen area by god 3 years ago is big-Carpathian basin(is there a small one?),which is fortified by godlike forces,so that when the flood comes this area wont be flooded like 2nd Ararat,so that
Christ wont have place to come down elsewhere,and even from here only those christly-hungarians will be the choosen ones,those 144000,in who already lives the soul of Christ,and in the moment when earth-power will be gone(WTF is that?Geothermal?)
,and all the others will die. The others wil live,because god will supply their life-forces from Christ's own. And in spite of the sadness and poorness,everydoby should cheer,because we(so they) will stay alive. It is not coincidental that those (I suppose they) are the choosen ones in the new testament,beacuse Christ was hungarian
The rest is a mess,I just cant understand what she says,but at the end she says that those who watch reality shows are succubus in every way.
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Old February 17th, 2008, 05:07 PM   #312
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She doesnt watch tv becuase she is a god-fearing person,and through the tv-screen comes the evil,and tries to make us commit sins.
She sometimes listens to the news on the radio,but thats all. She advises all to avoid doing so(watching tv),because we're in the final times,
not much time left for humanity in this form,because Christ comes down 2nd time,and its not very far,she doesnt give 15 years for humanity. Now the anti-christ-satan
provokes wars in the world,which will come in the final form of a new world war. But since there will be a huge erthquake,which will make the ocean flood America and Europe(why not Asia and Africa?)
The choosen area by god 3 years ago is big-Carpathian basin(is there a small one?),which is fortified by godlike forces,so that when the flood comes this area wont be flooded like 2nd Ararat,so that
Christ wont have place to come down elsewhere,and even from here only those christly-hungarians will be the choosen ones,those 144000,in who already lives the soul of Christ,and in the moment when earth-power will be gone(WTF is that?Geothermal?)
,and all the others will die. The others wil live,because god will supply their life-forces from Christ's own. And in spite of the sadness and poorness,everydoby should cheer,because we(so they) will stay alive. It is not coincidental that those (I suppose they) are the choosen ones in the new testament,beacuse Christ was hungarian
The rest is a mess,I just cant understand what she says,but at the end she says that those who watch reality shows are succubus in every way.
Thank you very much for exhaustive translation. Well, I don't if I have to laugh or cry. Does she really believe in what she said? But, luck I live in Carpatian basin as well. It reminds me a bit of "Vesmírní lidé" - "Space people" from Czech republic but they are active also in Slovakia. Recently I've heard all people have some chips and they are commanded by somebody (I don't know who).
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Does she really believe in what she said?
I dont know...but the reporter probably asked her because he wanted to know if she watches reality shows or not,and started with the question-what do you watch on tv.And she answered this...BTW,if even the Mt Everest would be covered,then there would be a 8km high water wall around the basin...
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Old February 17th, 2008, 05:22 PM   #314
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I dont know...but the reporter probably asked her because he wanted to know if she watches reality shows or not,and started with the question-what do you watch on tv.And she answered this...BTW,if even the Mt Everest would be covered,then there would be a 8km high water wall around the basin...
In High Tatras only 6 km.
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In High Tatras only 6 km.
Those will be inside,not at the border...or force field
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