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Old April 10th, 2008, 08:57 AM   #101
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"Anarchists? I'd say it's more likely bored teenagers."

No we actually have/had an anarchist group on 17th and G Street. Right before the downtown protest a few months back the neighborhood got tagged with the Anarchist A and a bunch of other crap. They actually sent out stories on their anarchist netweork about condos being paint bombed. They have since moved to MLK near 6th Ave..

The TPD today at the NTNC meeting confirmed that it was anarchist who did it and they caught them.
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up-up-up-updates pt 3

Park Place South... soon to be Pacific Place.

The city is finally doing something about this eyesore (next should pe Park Pl North... it's even worse).

What is promised:


What it currently is:


Looking up the hill towards Commerce and the Murano


Currently, the Tacoma Financial Center looming above. Park Place does not compliment anything, especially the TFC


According to our render, how the new Pacific Place will accommodate it's big neighbor.
Looks much better!


Inside... hard to tell much other than the mess they're making with all the structural changes


New columns in the works!


2 more stories of parking, 3 of Class A office to go...


This location really is premo real estate. This is the view from across Pac Ave from the Wells Fargo Plaza. It's a shame that the city tore down historical buildings and has let this garage waste the location for 4 decades.
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Old April 10th, 2008, 09:13 AM   #103
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"Anarchists? I'd say it's more likely bored teenagers."

No we actually have/had an anarchist group on 17th and G Street. Right before the downtown protest a few months back the neighborhood got tagged with the Anarchist A and a bunch of other crap. They actually sent out stories on their anarchist netweork about condos being paint bombed. They have since moved to MLK near 6th Ave..

The TPD today at the NTNC meeting confirmed that it was anarchist who did it and they caught them.
For real? Damn. I know there is that anarchist group 'round town, but to be honest I put them off as a bunch of whiners. Sure, it's their right to free speech, yadda, yadda. But it's not right or acceptable to be vandalizing like that, just because of your views.

As messed up as things are now, they're better off than the 2,000 immigrants here:


Sorry, there are real people with real problems here in town, just under our noses. Maybe if the Anarchists put their anger to good use, perhaps a difference could be made.
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Old April 10th, 2008, 05:42 PM   #104
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"Anarchists? I'd say it's more likely bored teenagers."

No we actually have/had an anarchist group on 17th and G Street. Right before the downtown protest a few months back the neighborhood got tagged with the Anarchist A and a bunch of other crap. They actually sent out stories on their anarchist netweork about condos being paint bombed. They have since moved to MLK near 6th Ave..

The TPD today at the NTNC meeting confirmed that it was anarchist who did it and they caught them.
If it's known where they are, how about paint bombing them? Better yet, follow them home and paint bomb their houses.
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Old April 11th, 2008, 08:22 AM   #105
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An anarchist organization, eh? doesnt that defeat the purpose of anarchy? i totally stole that question from Stranger Than Fiction.
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Old April 11th, 2008, 11:42 PM   #106
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Hilltop

I took a stroll through the Hilltop and thought I would share:

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Nice pics, Jake. I know that area well... like the back of my hand.

Now for some I took yesterday:
The Vilaggio looks like it's finally finished. The equipment is gone and construction fences are almost vanished as well. I only found fencing around the garage entrance in front and in the alley by the courtyard.



Shiny... and they're renting now (as is obvious). I think I'll call for info (rather talk to a person than surf the 'net). Not that I want to move, but I am super curious...


There is a still-fenced off courtyard area in the alley...


Looking through the fence at the permanent gate. I like the design.


The neighbors:
Up the hill is the Mercato


And down the hill is the Convention Center
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Old April 12th, 2008, 04:41 AM   #108
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The Midtown lofts... just down the block from the Vilaggio.
They've added steel since the past time I went by


There you can see the construction crew hard at work, raising the building up more...


Stairs already up? Interesting...
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Old April 19th, 2008, 06:21 AM   #109
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Some news/updates:

Broadway 505 has topped out:

4/17/08 - 505 is Topped Out!! We have reached our maximum height. The roof structure is in and will water-proofed soon. Exterior sheathing is being installed and rain-proofed in preparation for the brick and siding materials. Doors and windows are currently being installed. Scaffolding surrounds the building to make it all possible.

Walker North Building Demolished:

Not sure if they are going to actually start building the planned 8 story building or use the site for parking (for now).

The Walker Building next door is well on its way of becoming high-end condos. The restuarant Maxwell's Speakeasy and Lounge should be opening next week. This place should be a hit as the partners are Sean Quinn & Troy Christian from El Gaucho, Asado, Masa fame and Matt Coloney, the Chef who helped open Pacific Grill.

Walker North Demo:
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Rainier Connect announced they have purchased the Pacific Brewery building in the Brewery District of Downtown Tacoma.

From the TNT:

A company formed in 1910 and a building built in 1891 have married to mark the latest move toward the renaissance of Tacoma’s Brewery District.
Rainier Connect, a telecom company born of Eatonville’s Mashell Telephone Co., has bought the former offices and manufacturing facility of the National Cocoanut Butter Co. and National Cocoanut Butter Soap Co. Both companies were located in a pair of adjacent brick buildings that were part of the former Pacific Brewery complex in the 2500 block of South Holgate Street on the hillside south of University of Washington Tacoma, near the former Heidelberg Brewery.

Family-owned Rainier Connect paid $1.9 million for the two connected buildings – both brick, and the taller four stories high – and will spend another $2 million on renovation, said Brian Haynes, president and CEO.


and Exit133.com:
The building is located in between M-Space and Tacoma Self Storage. It was once involved in brewing and malting. Later it produced coconut butter. By the early 1920s, the building was used to make soap. In 1978 the building found itself on the National Historic Register.

Tacoma Foss Waterway hotel eliminates condos from plans

The Seattle developers of a planned Foss Waterway Hotel are again back to the drawing boards with their plan for the boutique hotel on the near-downtown waterway.
This time they’re eliminating all but a handful of condominiums from the building and adding 60 rooms to the 100 they had planned, according to Don Meyer, executive director of the Thea Foss Waterway Development Authority.

Four years ago, another developer started planning an all-hotel building for the site on the west side of the Foss at South 15th Street.
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Walker II

I saw that in Exit133, myself.
So I walked home from work on Wednesday to check out the site.
Talk about dumb luck! I saw and had an opportunity to talk to the foreman!

So, this is what he told me.
1) New condos will start this summer, when they finish the current Walker.
2) The project also involves tearing down the Antique auto place across the street.
3) That project is mixed use.
4) There will be hotel rooms in this project.

He didn't give any more detail, and hurried off to take a phone call. So, I've heard this info before (including the rumored grocery store to be in that mixed-use) but the hotel rooms is news to me.
So here's the site on Wed:





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Broadway 505 has topped out:

4/17/08 - 505 is Topped Out!! We have reached our maximum height. The roof structure is in and will water-proofed soon. Exterior sheathing is being installed and rain-proofed in preparation for the brick and siding materials. Doors and windows are currently being installed. Scaffolding surrounds the building to make it all possible.

Tacoma Foss Waterway hotel eliminates condos from plans

The Seattle developers of a planned Foss Waterway Hotel are again back to the drawing boards with their plan for the boutique hotel on the near-downtown waterway.
This time they’re eliminating all but a handful of condominiums from the building and adding 60 rooms to the 100 they had planned, according to Don Meyer, executive director of the Thea Foss Waterway Development Authority.

Four years ago, another developer started planning an all-hotel building for the site on the west side of the Foss at South 15th Street.
I'll swing by 505 today if I can. I noticed windows and some insulation going up on the Stadium Way side.

Oh, and I think that hotel may get going soon. On Friday I saw some city trucks as well as some from some construction company I can't remember (drats! the one time I forget my camera) out on the site. The weren't looking at the Esplanade, but rather making large hand gestures that seemed to imply the lot.
Doesn't tell us anything, but it is interesting to note.

Here's the only render of the proposal that I have come across:


Have you seen a better one, Jake?
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I'll be going to the Tacoma Condo Tour tomorrow morning to get pictures of condo views and the city of Tacoma! They also always give away goodies adn free food.
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I'll be going to the Tacoma Condo Tour tomorrow morning to get pictures of condo views and the city of Tacoma! They also always give away goodies adn free food.

How'd the tour go?
I couldn't make it (family crap )... but would love to see the pictures.

And speak of pictures, behold! I finally got to see down in the HUGE hole that will become the Tacoma General emergency room in 2010!

1st up... the render! Finally they put one up


Close up. I guess it's not bad, but considering they tore out a historic church I had much higher hopes...


Behold! Well, the bottom of the hole is as boring as expected, but not knowing what was down there was making me WANT to know.


The base of the crane.


Plastic!


I spy with my little eye Wells Fargo...


...and Chelsea Heights and the Key building. The view is pretty decent up on the roof of the Baker Garage...


I'd gladly pay like $20 to see the view from the top of the crane. I bet you could see the buildings in downtown Seattle!


Notice that shiny, bulbous thing in the support guy near the aft jim? (I hope those are proper terms when referring to cranes... I think they're right for ships).
Anyway, those are mylar balloons that just happened to get caught there. Makes for a neat picture.
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Had a great time! Way better then the Seattle and Bellevue condo tours. I even got info on projects not even out in public yet, and better yet, I got their pictures! Stay tuned for tons of new Tacoma pictures coming! I explored many neighborhoods today including Hilltop and Skyline.

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Curious to see what you found in Skyline other than views of the Bridge..
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Developer places bet on Tacoma’s Hilltop

Developer places bet on Tacoma’s HilltopDAN VOELPEL; THE NEWS TRIBUNE Published: April 25th, 2008 09:05 AM | Updated: April 25th, 2008 06:54 AMWhen a developer tells you he bought an 87-unit apartment building in November, started converting 17 units to condominiums in December and plans to start selling them at an open house Saturday, one thought comes to mind: “In this market? The guy must be crazy.”
But you don’t say that to his face. You politely ask to see the units.



Then he tells you his condos are in Tacoma’s Hilltop neighborhood, and suddenly you have no trouble asking him, “Are you nuts?”

No, Ron Gintz isn’t nuts. Just the chief operating officer of his family-owned development company who doesn’t mind lower-than-expected profit margins and risky niche projects.

The Gintz Group restored a warehouse building into office space on Broadway, moved its headquarters there and sold the rest of the building as office condos. It has nearly finished turning the old Mecca Theater, a Broadway porn film house and former hotel, into a residential and commercial condominium. Last month, it bought the historic, vacant and dilapidated Luzon Building at South 13th Street and Pacific Avenue with plans to restore it for office condominiums.

Now, the 1967-vintage Vista Rainier Apartments have become the Gintz Group’s 27th Street Station: 10 buildings spread across the narrow edge of 4.5-acre bluff above Nalley Valley. Most have views of Mount Rainer.

“This is a little scarier than some of the other things we’ve done, but not a lot,” Gintz said. “The Mecca was sleazy. The Luzon is a wreck. … But here the Hilltop is redeveloping so beautifully. Every other house has new paint and the lawn mowed. The more we looked at this, the more we thought it was a no-brainer.”

Gintz handed me a copy of his pro forma, which describes how his company bought the apartments for $4.1 million – or about $47,000 per unit. The reconstruction crew stripped the units to the studs and built them back up at about $33,000 per unit. Gintz also replaced the exterior railings, lighting, walks and stairways. Some buildings needed roof work. And they turned it into a gated community – the Hilltop’s first.

The one-bedroom units will sell for $119,990 to $136,990 – depending on the view. Want two bedrooms? Those run $148,990 to $167,990.

“We won’t make a killing,” Gintz said. “But we like taking ugly properties and making them nice.”

To lessen the risk, the Gintz Group’s lender won’t allow the company to convert all of the apartments at once. The conversions, Gintz said, will occur in four phases. Once the company reaches a sales milestone on a phase, it can start the reconstruction of the next.

Gintz expects to “ratchet up” the prices in succeeding phases.

That strategy keeps the cash flow from the still-occupied apartments and hedges against a stagnant market. For example, a New Home Trends report on 2007 condominium sales in Tacoma showed that of 25 new and converted condo projects, just one unit per month at each project sold at an overall average price of $383,580.

In the greater downtown area of Tacoma, Raelene Rogers of McCament & Rogers, a real estate consultant and brokerage, tracked condominium closings during the first quarter of the last three years: 29 in 2006, 54 last year, 22 this year.

Miller Condominium Marketing, working Gintz Group’s sales strategy (lower price ranges and teaming with the City of Tacoma’s Down Payment Assistance Program), expects 27th Street station to sell five or six units a month.

Overly optimistic?

Rogers doesn’t think so.

“This project is particularly interesting because it’s affordable,” she said. “What we’re seeing now is, if the price is affordable, they’re selling. At the higher end, things aren’t selling.”

Gintz said he believes “this time next summer the doldrums we’re seeing now (in the housing market) will be a distant memory.”

We’ll see. Whether 27th Street Station has a downside depends on how you react to this sentence taken straight from the project’s marketing plan: “27th Street Station will set the tone for gentrification of this neighborhood.”

Gentrification describes the phenomenon that occurs when moneyed people move into a low-income neighborhood and fix it up enough over time so the traditionally poorer residents have to move out because they can’t afford to live there.

Tension arises from trying to improve a historically notorious neighborhood while still trying to keep it affordable for its longstanding residents.

Gintz acknowledges he had to evict tenants to remake the first condos and will have do to so with the rest of the tenants eventually.

“We got panned on one of the local blog sites because of the gentrification and forcing people out of the neighborhood,” Gintz said. “But those people were going to get forced out anyway as rents go up.”

True. Decades of work to drive crime from the Hilltop and increase homeownership – and the neighborhood pride that comes with it – will inspire more projects like 27th Street Station.

For example, I talked this week with another developer who recently purchased a swatch of older adjacent view homes near Gintz’s investment. What’s the plan? Tear down the old homes and build four new homes that will sell for more than $450,000.

Welcome to the new Hilltop.

Dan Voelpel: 253-597-8785

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Location: South 27th Street and Martin Luther King Jr. Way, Tacoma


Units: 17 condominium conversions for sale; 87 units overall


Prices: One-bedroom, $119,990 to $136,990; two-bedroom, $148,990 to $167,990


Developer: Gintz Group, Tacoma


Grand opening/ open house: Saturday and Sunday, noon to 6 p.m.
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Had a great time! Way better then the Seattle and Bellevue condo tours. I even got info on projects not even out in public yet, and better yet, I got their pictures! Stay tuned for tons of new Tacoma pictures coming! I explored many neighborhoods today including Hilltop and Skyline.

Nice pics and thanks for asking!
When do we get to see the pics? And are you going to tell us about the projects that aren't public?
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Pac Plaza

It's been a rough couple of weeks, my parents, sister and an old friend from high school all moved (of course needing my help). So, I've had jack chances to do any updates.

However, I ended up walking home from work and caught this glimpse of work being done on the future Pacific Plaza... Imagine, if you will some glass and 4 more floors on it in a year or so...

From 11th and Pac Ave


FYI, that big, beige old building down right past the Pac Plaza... that's the historic Luzon building, now being renovated into class A office by the Gintz Group that was previously mentioned a post or two above.
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Anarchy

Hey Jake... while walking across the ol' Murray Morgan today, I noticed that your neighborhood anarchy group was there recently... I didn't see any of this last Thursday (the last time I walked the bridge before today).

I think the big anarchy symbol is a dead give away as to who did it...



** my apologies for the lousy panorama... I'm still working on figuring out how to do it, AND I need a tripod **

Also


Actually, I like this one:


Needless to say, I've not uploaded all the ones with f-bombs on them...
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They had a protest the other week and the city raised the bridge on them even though that was their permitted route. So I guess they aren't to happy with the city or the bridge at this point.
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