#On Hold: Eagle Street Pier Towers - 2x70st/mixed

August 11th, 2004, 12:33 PM

I hope someone hasnt already started a thread about this which I couldnt find, but I heard that there were plans for a redevelopment (possibly a tower) of the riverside centre (the building next to waterfront place).
Is this true and if so does anyone know any details of this proposal? Or was dreaming or something when I heard this, or nobody has heard of such plans? ?

Aussie Bhoy · August 11th, 2004, 01:03 PM

There was some talk a month or so back about some sort of development of the Eagle Street pier area. That is the lowrise building on the river, in between Waterfront and Riparian, it contains City Rowers nightclub, a McDonalds and a lot of shops. There used to be another dodgy nightclub there as well, can't remember the name, it closed down after someone shot dead a bouncer.

The Riverside Centre is the 142m Office Tower slightly further down the river towards the Story Bridge.

Blend · August 11th, 2004, 01:07 PM

Riverside Centre is actually the building thats like the twin for Riparian.

Although i think what ur reffering to is this:

its owned by the same people that own waterfront place, as i recall.

ive not heard anything about a redevelopment, but i have thought that is a prime site for a while now

NCC1701D · August 11th, 2004, 01:10 PM

AussieBhoy, that night club was called 'Grand Orbit' - It was good in its prime, but all it took was that murder and the club quickly went down hill!!
I do remember them talking about building a tower on the site after the sale which happend about 3-4 months ago.

Aussie Bhoy · August 11th, 2004, 03:38 PM

Thanks for the name of the place NCC1701D, perfect picture to show it as well Blend.

It is a good site, I wonder how tall they would plan on going there?

It would be odd if AMP and Comalco were blocked from the river.

gerbilus · August 11th, 2004, 11:53 PM

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There used to be another dodgy nightclub there as well, can't remember the name, it closed down after someone shot dead a bouncer.

The club was called Grand Orbit, it was actually a really good club and was one of my regular haunts in the mid nineties. It had incredible decor, imagine the Press Club (the club in the valley next to the the empire hotel) with that type of decor (but even better) but also 3 times bigger.

It was such a contrast to the garbage clubs thar littered the CBD at the time (and still do) eg City Rowers.

nagelixin · August 12th, 2004, 02:00 AM

Eagle Street Pier is now owned by Stockland. (Stockland + Westpac now own Waterfront place) Stockland on its website has mooted the site for high rise residential, however this would be several years off. For more info check out Stockland Media Release

Blend · August 12th, 2004, 05:41 AM

i hope they dont get rid of the stuff on ground level. Like they need a cafe/shopping/entertainment on the first few levels, and keep public access the same.

GMAC · August 12th, 2004, 08:07 AM

I hope by then that the need for office space outweighs the need for Apartments, I can just see another wall of balconies ruining the best close up view of brisbane CBD. Oh well, lets worry about that later!!

andy77aus · August 12th, 2004, 01:36 PM

I really like the design of that whole area, They need to retain some public places like that. I hope they don't destroy it. Although i would like to see the end of city rowers. I remember going to city rowers a few times when i was younger. Geez there was some yobos in that place! Even the bouncers were complete idiots. They always were looking for fights, Three bouncers kicked the shit out of my mate one time so badly cause he spilled his drink and didnt want to leave. They smashed his cheek bone and broke his jaw, and kicked him on the ground breaking 4 of his ribs. Its no wonder one of them got shot. Some of those bouncers deserve more than just a bullet.

Aussie Bhoy · August 12th, 2004, 02:05 PM

I have had some very good times at Rowers, I can see why more dedicated club people hate it though, it is a pretty basic meat market type place.

Your mate should have got the police or a legal firm involved.

Ausilencer · August 12th, 2004, 02:15 PM

Yes about the police there aussie boy, andy77aus, I'd imagine they would have had a good case against the bouncers if charges were pressed - of course I don't know all the details...

Danubis · August 12th, 2004, 05:01 PM

hehe, people still beleive in justice... how sweet

August 13th, 2004, 10:16 AM

Thanks guys yea thats the buildning I meant, not riverside centre lol!

Orodreth · August 13th, 2004, 10:43 AM

When Waterfront Place was purchased with Eagle Street Pier, Stockland said that develop wouldn't be considered for another 10 years.

Hopefully it will be commercial tower/s not residential, and also I hope the base incorporates the same style of eateries already present.

Shado · August 13th, 2004, 01:00 PM

I heard somewhere the leases or options on the leases mean that it can't be redeveloped for at least another 5-10 years.

Blend · August 13th, 2004, 04:40 PM

doesnt stop them from planning it. Even if they startedmplanning now, chances are it would be more that 5 years before they started development

nagelixin · August 21st, 2004, 01:45 AM

Shado your right, places like Il Centro and The Coffee Club (first store) would be locked in to long term leases.

bribri · August 21st, 2004, 08:57 AM

My understanding is that nobody has a lease that has more than 3 years to go at Eagle St Pier. That probably gives a timeline to consider for the commencement of any development. It might be interesting to see if some of the more established restaurants jump to Riparians restaurant precinct.

Blend · September 11th, 2004, 12:31 PM

TLPI shouldnt have an effect on this if they put a shopping/cafe/resturant/entertainment precint at the bottom of the tower/towers that may or may not go here...

should it?

August 11th, 2004, 12:33 PM	#1
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August 13th, 2004, 10:43 AM	#15
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August 11th, 2004, 01:03 PM	#2
Aussie Bhoy Registered User Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Brisbane Posts: 5,017 Likes (Received): 83	There was some talk a month or so back about some sort of development of the Eagle Street pier area. That is the lowrise building on the river, in between Waterfront and Riparian, it contains City Rowers nightclub, a McDonalds and a lot of shops. There used to be another dodgy nightclub there as well, can't remember the name, it closed down after someone shot dead a bouncer. The Riverside Centre is the 142m Office Tower slightly further down the river towards the Story Bridge.

August 11th, 2004, 01:07 PM	#3
Blend Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Brisbane Posts: 887 Likes (Received): 0	Riverside Centre is actually the building thats like the twin for Riparian. Although i think what ur reffering to is this: its owned by the same people that own waterfront place, as i recall. ive not heard anything about a redevelopment, but i have thought that is a prime site for a while now

August 11th, 2004, 01:10 PM	#4
NCC1701D Registered User Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Brisbane Posts: 801 Likes (Received): 6	AussieBhoy, that night club was called 'Grand Orbit' - It was good in its prime, but all it took was that murder and the club quickly went down hill!! I do remember them talking about building a tower on the site after the sale which happend about 3-4 months ago.

August 11th, 2004, 03:38 PM	#5
Aussie Bhoy Registered User Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Brisbane Posts: 5,017 Likes (Received): 83	Thanks for the name of the place NCC1701D, perfect picture to show it as well Blend. It is a good site, I wonder how tall they would plan on going there? It would be odd if AMP and Comalco were blocked from the river.

August 12th, 2004, 02:00 AM	#7
nagelixin GFY Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 1,154 Likes (Received): 5	Eagle Street Pier is now owned by Stockland. (Stockland + Westpac now own Waterfront place) Stockland on its website has mooted the site for high rise residential, however this would be several years off. For more info check out Stockland Media Release

August 12th, 2004, 05:41 AM	#8
Blend Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Brisbane Posts: 887 Likes (Received): 0	i hope they dont get rid of the stuff on ground level. Like they need a cafe/shopping/entertainment on the first few levels, and keep public access the same.

August 12th, 2004, 08:07 AM	#9
GMAC Yeah but No!! Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Brisbane Posts: 1,416 Likes (Received): 2	I hope by then that the need for office space outweighs the need for Apartments, I can just see another wall of balconies ruining the best close up view of brisbane CBD. Oh well, lets worry about that later!!

August 12th, 2004, 01:36 PM	#10
andy77aus Registered User Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Melbourne Posts: 214 Likes (Received): 0	I really like the design of that whole area, They need to retain some public places like that. I hope they don't destroy it. Although i would like to see the end of city rowers. I remember going to city rowers a few times when i was younger. Geez there was some yobos in that place! Even the bouncers were complete idiots. They always were looking for fights, Three bouncers kicked the shit out of my mate one time so badly cause he spilled his drink and didnt want to leave. They smashed his cheek bone and broke his jaw, and kicked him on the ground breaking 4 of his ribs. Its no wonder one of them got shot. Some of those bouncers deserve more than just a bullet.

August 12th, 2004, 02:05 PM	#11
Aussie Bhoy Registered User Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Brisbane Posts: 5,017 Likes (Received): 83	I have had some very good times at Rowers, I can see why more dedicated club people hate it though, it is a pretty basic meat market type place. Your mate should have got the police or a legal firm involved.

August 12th, 2004, 02:15 PM	#12
Ausilencer Live and Let Build Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Brisbane Posts: 811 Likes (Received): 0	Yes about the police there aussie boy, andy77aus, I'd imagine they would have had a good case against the bouncers if charges were pressed - of course I don't know all the details...

August 12th, 2004, 05:01 PM	#13
Danubis Charlatan Join Date: May 2003 Location: Adelaide Posts: 3,422 Likes (Received): 511	hehe, people still beleive in justice... how sweet

August 13th, 2004, 10:16 AM	#14
back_in_pog_form Guest Posts: n/a Likes (Received):	Thanks guys yea thats the buildning I meant, not riverside centre lol!

August 13th, 2004, 01:00 PM	#16
Shado Registered User Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Brisbane, Australia Posts: 434 Likes (Received): 0	I heard somewhere the leases or options on the leases mean that it can't be redeveloped for at least another 5-10 years.

August 13th, 2004, 04:40 PM	#17
Blend Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Brisbane Posts: 887 Likes (Received): 0	doesnt stop them from planning it. Even if they startedmplanning now, chances are it would be more that 5 years before they started development

August 21st, 2004, 01:45 AM	#18
nagelixin GFY Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 1,154 Likes (Received): 5	Shado your right, places like Il Centro and The Coffee Club (first store) would be locked in to long term leases.

August 21st, 2004, 08:57 AM	#19
bribri Registered User Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: brisbane, australia Posts: 958 Likes (Received): 45	My understanding is that nobody has a lease that has more than 3 years to go at Eagle St Pier. That probably gives a timeline to consider for the commencement of any development. It might be interesting to see if some of the more established restaurants jump to Riparians restaurant precinct.

September 11th, 2004, 12:31 PM	#20
Blend Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Brisbane Posts: 887 Likes (Received): 0	TLPI shouldnt have an effect on this if they put a shopping/cafe/resturant/entertainment precint at the bottom of the tower/towers that may or may not go here... should it?