8th & Figueroa Office Tower

vicecityguy · August 21st, 2004, 10:27 PM

8th & Figeroa Office Tower

Location: Los Angeles, CA

Role: Lead Project Designer

Association/Lead Architect: John Burgee Architects

Status: Invited competiton, winner, unbuilt.

Description: This office development combines a winter garden with a carfully sculpted and articulated high-rise tower.

james2390 · August 22nd, 2004, 05:18 AM

That office tower rocks! I miss seeing those classic post modern designs. Most of the towers built recently look nothing like this. Im excited to see this.

Money Man · August 22nd, 2004, 10:31 AM

I know that the status is invited competition, but is this planning on being built? It is an amazing tower, I also really like the design. How tall is it suppose to be?

SChristopher · August 22nd, 2004, 11:05 AM

I love that design...Los Angeles really needs more SOLID looking buildings....what is the vacancy rate in DT LA out of curiousity?

Jasonhouse · August 23rd, 2004, 02:52 AM

This PoMo design almost seems to be culling styling cues from the Federalist Period.

The contextual links to 601 Figeroa and the 777 Tower are unmistakable IMO.

But like so many other PoMo designs, it has been cheapened and streamlined so much for profitability, that there is virtually nothing remarkable about the design, other than its uninspiring result.

Still, it beats the hell out of another 70's box, which are even worse.

savvysearch · August 23rd, 2004, 05:50 AM

Like most highrises, its kind of cold. Once its covered in glass, it'll be even more dull. Aren't there already enough office spaces in LA? It's so formal.

New Jack City · August 23rd, 2004, 09:55 PM

Is it me, or does the design look more residential like than office?

james2390 · August 24th, 2004, 04:22 AM

Yeah, I guess it kind of does.

Jasonhouse · August 25th, 2004, 05:18 AM

That's because you're from NYC...It's got the same wedding cake massing so common there. It's really just a design element of the style.

Daortíz · August 25th, 2004, 05:45 AM

Wow I had not heard about this project before!!!
the Figueroa corridor will be even more amazing
with this nice addition

savvysearch · August 25th, 2004, 08:13 AM

To me, it looks more office than residential. There arent even windows that you can open, so it definitely doesn't look residential to me.

Jasonhouse · August 25th, 2004, 08:14 AM

They learned not install openable windows in highrises after 1929...

SChristopher · August 25th, 2004, 07:06 PM

The depression suicides?

August 25th, 2004, 10:20 PM

I've never heard anything about this proj before. Makes me become anxious & hopeful, but then I'm brought back down to earth when I realize a lot of such such renderings and proposals (at least the ones for many sites in DT LA) have a way of never seeing the light of day. I'm still really disappointed that a 32 floor apt bldg next to Staples, which would have been aimed at students & built by the Capstone Co, has been cancelled within the past few months.

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Originally Posted by SChristopher

what is the vacancy rate in DT LA out of curiousity?

Still too damn high to make something like this bldg a likely addition anytime soon.

SChristopher · August 25th, 2004, 11:43 PM

Who knows ATL and Dallas and all of them still do it even though they have so much emptiness.....

klaus · August 29th, 2004, 08:54 PM

let's hope for the best. i think it would fit in nicely with the 777 tower and the surrounding neighborhood. yes, it does look very "eastcoastish"

badtz · August 29th, 2004, 10:10 PM

...... maybe they could add about 20-40 floors?

And maybe a scoatch more modern?

TICONLA1 · October 11th, 2004, 07:26 AM

if we turn the clock back to 1990, there were 3 towers planned for this block. on the figuroa side, a 55 story, 700+ foot hotel abuting the brooks brothers building, a 46 story office tower on flower st. (between the two parking structures, plane glass skin with 2 set backs from flower, and visable diagonal V bracing thru glass) and on the site of this tower, a 22 story hotel, this tower, i count 34 floors, but with roof mechanicals, and copper mastard, an easy 40. it could use 5 or 10 more floors, but i love it anyway. (come on, its john burgee, when it comes to post modern, he's the star!!!) any news on its possible construction?

Suburbanite · October 15th, 2004, 04:48 AM

I absolutely love the two set-backs. They really lend to the building's overall sense of height and gives it a strong presence. The green piece on top really gives it a very dignified air though perhaps the design seems a bit conservative for a city like L.A. It almost comes off as "New Yorkish", if I may coin a new term.

***LosAngelesSportsFan*** · October 20th, 2004, 11:24 AM

Downtown vacancy rate down to 17.4% this quarter from about 20% last quarter.

August 21st, 2004, 10:27 PM	#1
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August 22nd, 2004, 10:31 AM	#3
Money Man Registered User Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Glendora, Los Angeles Posts: 45 Likes (Received): 0	I know that the status is invited competition, but is this planning on being built? It is an amazing tower, I also really like the design. How tall is it suppose to be? __________________ I wish that I could give everyone a hug, just to let you know your loved if you don't hear it very often. Weither you are Gay or straight, you are important, and don't let anyone tell you different.

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August 22nd, 2004, 05:18 AM	#2
james2390 Tribune Tower Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Chicago, IL Posts: 2,920 Likes (Received): 0	That office tower rocks! I miss seeing those classic post modern designs. Most of the towers built recently look nothing like this. Im excited to see this.

August 22nd, 2004, 11:05 AM	#4
SChristopher Registered User Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Cincinnati, Oh Posts: 1,052 Likes (Received): 0	I love that design...Los Angeles really needs more SOLID looking buildings....what is the vacancy rate in DT LA out of curiousity?

August 23rd, 2004, 02:52 AM	#5
Jasonhouse Registered User Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 12,270 Likes (Received): 8	This PoMo design almost seems to be culling styling cues from the Federalist Period. The contextual links to 601 Figeroa and the 777 Tower are unmistakable IMO. But like so many other PoMo designs, it has been cheapened and streamlined so much for profitability, that there is virtually nothing remarkable about the design, other than its uninspiring result. Still, it beats the hell out of another 70's box, which are even worse.

August 23rd, 2004, 05:50 AM	#6
savvysearch Registered User Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 126 Likes (Received): 0	Like most highrises, its kind of cold. Once its covered in glass, it'll be even more dull. Aren't there already enough office spaces in LA? It's so formal.

August 23rd, 2004, 09:55 PM	#7
New Jack City User Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: NYC Posts: 5,651 Likes (Received): 2	Is it me, or does the design look more residential like than office?

August 24th, 2004, 04:22 AM	#8
james2390 Tribune Tower Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Chicago, IL Posts: 2,920 Likes (Received): 0	Yeah, I guess it kind of does.

August 25th, 2004, 05:18 AM	#9
Jasonhouse Registered User Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 12,270 Likes (Received): 8	That's because you're from NYC...It's got the same wedding cake massing so common there. It's really just a design element of the style.

August 25th, 2004, 08:13 AM	#11
savvysearch Registered User Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 126 Likes (Received): 0	To me, it looks more office than residential. There arent even windows that you can open, so it definitely doesn't look residential to me.

August 25th, 2004, 08:14 AM	#12
Jasonhouse Registered User Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 12,270 Likes (Received): 8	They learned not install openable windows in highrises after 1929...

August 25th, 2004, 07:06 PM	#13
SChristopher Registered User Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Cincinnati, Oh Posts: 1,052 Likes (Received): 0	The depression suicides?

August 25th, 2004, 11:43 PM	#15
SChristopher Registered User Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Cincinnati, Oh Posts: 1,052 Likes (Received): 0	Who knows ATL and Dallas and all of them still do it even though they have so much emptiness.....

August 29th, 2004, 08:54 PM	#16
klaus to live and love in l.a. Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: city of angels Posts: 26 Likes (Received): 0	let's hope for the best. i think it would fit in nicely with the 777 tower and the surrounding neighborhood. yes, it does look very "eastcoastish"

August 29th, 2004, 10:10 PM	#17
badtz Downtown Los Angeles Join Date: Aug 2004 Posts: 26 Likes (Received): 0	...... maybe they could add about 20-40 floors? And maybe a scoatch more modern?

October 11th, 2004, 07:26 AM	#18
TICONLA1 Hirise Piping Man Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 725 Likes (Received): 0	if we turn the clock back to 1990, there were 3 towers planned for this block. on the figuroa side, a 55 story, 700+ foot hotel abuting the brooks brothers building, a 46 story office tower on flower st. (between the two parking structures, plane glass skin with 2 set backs from flower, and visable diagonal V bracing thru glass) and on the site of this tower, a 22 story hotel, this tower, i count 34 floors, but with roof mechanicals, and copper mastard, an easy 40. it could use 5 or 10 more floors, but i love it anyway. (come on, its john burgee, when it comes to post modern, he's the star!!!) any news on its possible construction?

October 15th, 2004, 04:48 AM	#19
Suburbanite Registered User Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Chicago, IL Posts: 925 Likes (Received): 0	I absolutely love the two set-backs. They really lend to the building's overall sense of height and gives it a strong presence. The green piece on top really gives it a very dignified air though perhaps the design seems a bit conservative for a city like L.A. It almost comes off as "New Yorkish", if I may coin a new term.

October 20th, 2004, 11:24 AM	#20
*LosAngelesSportsFan* Moderator Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 2,919 Likes (Received): 15	Downtown vacancy rate down to 17.4% this quarter from about 20% last quarter.