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Old July 16th, 2008, 11:48 PM   #21
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third best to the NCAA
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Old July 16th, 2008, 11:51 PM   #22
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Well that is not Pro league. And Euroleague quality is higher than NCAA, many good NCAA players fail terribly in Europe.
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Old July 17th, 2008, 12:48 AM   #23
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Athens' basketball Arenas are just great:

"Peace and frienship" arena:

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Olympic indoor arena:

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Hellenikon indoor arena:

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Old July 17th, 2008, 12:57 AM   #24
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Decathlon (Greek company) also did project for new Zagreb Arena, quality stuff there in Greece! PAO Arena is awesome.
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Old July 17th, 2008, 01:33 AM   #25
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what was the construction year of OAKA?
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Old July 17th, 2008, 03:10 AM   #26
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what was the construction year of OAKA?
I think in 1995...
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Old July 17th, 2008, 03:42 AM   #27
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Some look bigger and some look smaller

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In compare with NBA arenas every each looks smaller
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You gotta be on crack. Euroleague has the elite teams of the entire continent. In my opinion, the best Euroleague team is probably better than a few NBA teams as well.
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Old July 17th, 2008, 06:26 AM   #29
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Where weill the final be played
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You gotta be on crack. Euroleague has the elite teams of the entire continent. In my opinion, the best Euroleague team is probably better than a few NBA teams as well.
i highly doubt that
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Old July 17th, 2008, 10:20 AM   #31
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Where weill the final be played
for 2009 it's gonna be O2 Arena in Berlin!

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i highly doubt that
Actually we get this answer each year. The best teams are about on the level of the 2-3 worst NBA teams.
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Old July 17th, 2008, 12:23 PM   #33
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You know this as an undeniable fact? You must be a source of all knowledge and wisdom I see, with absolutely no arrogance present whatsoever.
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Old July 17th, 2008, 01:21 PM   #34
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Saw Euroleague and plenty of the NBA over the years.

Gotta say the Europeans are 'champion teams' whilst NBA teams are 'teams of champions'.

The results of 'the NBA team' at recent World Championships and Olympics a the proof of the pudding.
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Old July 28th, 2008, 05:25 PM   #35
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dudu, maybe you know it better but as i remember FIBA changed some rules and the FIBA court.
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dudu, maybe you know it better but as i remember FIBA changed some rules and the FIBA court.
Not completely. FIBA is dead anyway.. their influence in todays basketball is non existant. ULEB and NBA run the show.
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Why would they change it? Because NBA plays it like that? Leave it as it is... NBA is done anyway. They can't cope with Euroleague money... and it just started.
Ok let me explain this to you. First, the reason that the international court differs from the American courts is because of the dominance of the americans in the old days. The restricted area is smaller and the three point line is closer to the basket to put less emphasis on the big, athletic American centers and forwards. More emphasis was put on the shooter, which is why most non americans like to shoot the ball. In the US, a 7 foot guy is a power center. Elsewhere he is a shooter. Now as time passed people began to figure out ways to beat us things changed, but they still are unfair. It makes no sense why there are significantly different court dimensions. If anything people shoud be happy about this. You probably will try to bash me for this but do your research, its the truth.

New FIBA court, 2010


Now lets talk about money. You are saying that Euroleague can compete with the NBA with money? No. Maybe they will be able to pay some players a lot of money, but for how long. They wont be able to do it forever, the teams dont have the money NBA teams do. The NBA will win out in the end because it just has so much more money. So Euroleague likes to take our lower level players and overpay them so that they think they are making progress. No, im sorry but paying Josh Childress $20 Million. Thats ridiculous, he not worth the money. Do you realize how much money these players demand? Gilbert Arenas just signed a $111 Million dollar contract with the Wizards. You cant compete with that. You cant compete with the money the US has sports wise.
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??? NBA is done?? Can't you just appreciate what the NBA has to offer and let the facts speak for themselves
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Now lets talk about money. You are saying that Euroleague can compete with the NBA with money?
Yes, thats exactly what i'm saying Euroleague is on rise and NBA on decline. There is no salary cap in Europe and teams are usualy owned by 1 extremely rich man this is, unlike their USA coleagues not interested in making profit but uses the team for his own fun/interes. And this just started... euro/dollar rate is another reason why players prefer/are starting to prefer Euroleague. I don't even want to mention that 20mil contract in Europe means exactly 20 mil on players bank account, not 10mil like in USA due to taxes. House, cars etc. are also included in contract unlike in NBA.

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Maybe they will be able to pay some players a lot of money, but for how long.
Some of the Euroleague teams have practically unlimited budgets. Sorry but i just don't see how will NBA with current tax system and salary cap going to able to cpe with that.

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They wont be able to do it forever, the teams dont have the money
Yes they do, you are just showing how ignorant you are about Euroleague here.

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The NBA will win out in the end because it just has so much more money.
Once again, thats not true, Euroleague budgets are increasing ALOT. Its different system than USA and you don't seem to understand it.

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So Euroleague likes to take our lower level players and overpay them so that they think they are making progress.
Euroleague used to do that. Now its established players leaving, college stars prefering Euroleague to NBA, hell even your best highschool talent picked Euroleague. European players are leaving NBA on first chance they have.

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Gilbert Arenas just signed a $111 Million dollar contract with the Wizards.
Thats 70 milion Euros, add taxes to that and you get barely double amount of what Childress is going to get in Olympiacos.

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You cant compete with the money the US has sports wise.
Perhaps in basketball not yet, but the way things are changing i wouldn't be so sure if NBA will still be no1 league in 10-15 years. As for money involved in sports, our football is by far no1 and no USA sport will ever match it.
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Old July 28th, 2008, 07:15 PM   #40
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Yes, thats exactly what i'm saying Euroleague is on rise and NBA on decline. There is no salary cap in Europe and teams are usualy owned by 1 extremely rich man this is, unlike their USA coleagues not interested in making profit but uses the team for his own fun/interes. And this just started... euro/dollar rate is another reason why players prefer/are starting to prefer Euroleague. I don't even want to mention that 20mil contract in Europe means exactly 20 mil on players bank account, not 10mil like in USA due to taxes. House, cars etc. are also included in contract unlike in NBA.

Some of the Euroleague teams have practically unlimited budgets. Sorry but i just don't see how will NBA with current tax system and salary cap going to able to cpe with that.

Yes they do, you are just showing how ignorant you are about Euroleague here.

Once again, thats not true, Euroleague budgets are increasing ALOT. Its different system than USA and you don't seem to understand it.

Euroleague used to do that. Now its established players leaving, college stars prefering Euroleague to NBA, hell even your best highschool talent picked Euroleague. European players are leaving NBA on first chance they have.

Thats 70 milion Euros, add taxes to that and you get barely double amount of what Childress is going to get in Olympiacos.



Perhaps in basketball not yet, but the way things are changing i wouldn't be so sure if NBA will still be no1 league in 10-15 years. As for money involved in sports, our football is by far no1 and no USA sport will ever match it.
i can sum up all of your hate and ignorance towards the US with one thing



go do your research, obviously you have no clue what youre talking about.

People who actually know what they are talking about will destroy you based on what you said.
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