Bengaluru International Airport (BIAL) Discussions

[raghussc]

Bangalore is full of intellectuals who don't want to go into politics for all obvious reasons but crib a lot ...

anyways, looks like this thread lost its sheen as the fighting folks moved to Praja.in blog. Mr. Devesh is a vehement speaker there too on opening HAL.

No more comedy from mpvp either

[mailabode]

Originally Posted by raghussc

Bangalore is full of intellectuals who don't want to go into politics for all obvious reasons but crib a lot ...

anyways, looks like this thread lost its sheen as the fighting folks moved to Praja.in blog. Mr. Devesh is a vehement speaker there too on opening HAL.

No more comedy from mpvp either

There were IITians etc who tested the waters in elections but preference was given to the regular politicians by the masses. If patronage is given and awareness is gradually created then things may change gradually, and more good and qualified people would get into politics to achieve something significant.

Change begins with accepting and talking about facts. Else prospective good things are killed in the bud itself.

[mpvp]

BIA expansion still on planning board
Sunday August 3 2008 04:15 IST

Express News Service

BANGALORE: The Bangalore International Airport Limited, which started commercial operations on May 24 this year, has been under the scanner due to the congestion and space constraints at the airport.

A month earlier BIAL stated that it would take up the expansion work of the airport soon and that the construction of a low cost terminal for low cost carriers by the end of 2009. Similarly, Civil Aviation Minister Praful Patel also directed BIAL to double its terminal capacity in the next three years by constructing a mirror terminal and also increase the capacity in eight months by extending the existing terminal. However, BIAL has said that they are still in the planning stage and do not have anything concrete to announce with regard to the expansion.

"BIAL has to explore ways to increase the capacity of the existing terminal before it reaches a saturation point which is quite certain given the manner in which civil aviation is growing in the country," Ministry sources told The Express. The BIA by 2011 is expected to handle 18 million passengers and in all probability will add another million passengers to the existing 11 million passengers.




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[dakshinapraja]

Oh yeah, BIAL is sooo lethargic. Whereas AAI, would have by now not only done the planning, but also finished construction. Sure...

[vvr]

Originally Posted by dakshinapraja

Oh yeah, BIAL is sooo lethargic. Whereas AAI, would have by now not only done the planning, but also finished construction. Sure...

DP, you cannot even begin to comprehend all the things that AAI would have mulled over by now. They would have mulled over a billion sq. feet terminal, they would have mulled over a 500 kmph airport express, they would have mulled over automatic garbage collection in the parking lot etc. Then they would have downed endless cups of chai to mull over mulling over. And all BIAL did was put up a terminal and it took them 3 years.

[mailabode]

Originally Posted by dakshinapraja

Oh yeah, BIAL is sooo lethargic. Whereas AAI, would have by now not only done the planning, but also finished construction. Sure...

May i put it in this way -

It was because BIAL created history by being lethargic unlike what we have been used too all along - that it became fit to report its (alleged) lethargy as NEWS.

The idiot BIAL must learn from high-energy, efficient examples like this one:
http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showpo...&postcount=779

[dakshinapraja]

Originally Posted by vvr

DP, you cannot even begin to comprehend all the things that AAI would have mulled over by now. They would have mulled over a billion sq. feet terminal, they would have mulled over a 500 kmph airport express, they would have mulled over automatic garbage collection in the parking lot etc. Then they would have downed endless cups of chai to mull over mulling over. And all BIAL did was put up a terminal and it took them 3 years.

Originally Posted by mailabode

May i put it in this way -

It was because BIAL created history by being lethargic unlike what we have been used too all along - that it became fit to report its (alleged) lethargy as NEWS.

The idiot BIAL must learn from high-energy, efficient examples like this one:
http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showpo...&postcount=779

[Raichen]

Originally Posted by mpvp

BIA expansion still on planning board
Sunday August 3 2008 04:15 IST

Express News Service

BANGALORE: The Bangalore International Airport Limited, which started commercial operations on May 24 this year, has been under the scanner due to the congestion and space constraints at the airport.

A month earlier BIAL stated that it would take up the expansion work of the airport soon and that the construction of a low cost terminal for low cost carriers by the end of 2009. Similarly, Civil Aviation Minister Praful Patel also directed BIAL to double its terminal capacity in the next three years by constructing a mirror terminal and also increase the capacity in eight months by extending the existing terminal. However, BIAL has said that they are still in the planning stage and do not have anything concrete to announce with regard to the expansion.

"BIAL has to explore ways to increase the capacity of the existing terminal before it reaches a saturation point which is quite certain given the manner in which civil aviation is growing in the country," Ministry sources told The Express. The BIA by 2011 is expected to handle 18 million passengers and in all probability will add another million passengers to the existing 11 million passengers.




More at
http://newindpress.com/NewsItems.asp...alore&Topic=0&
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Thanks mpvp for coming back, we were wondering where you went, this thread almost died after you left.

Anyways, there is nothing lethargic about it, you would do the same. What about those who have filed petitions to prevent BIAL from expansion and there are talks/meetings about Govt trying to pull off a coup against BIAL.

I think BIAL will not invest anymore until this HAL saga and the threats to re-negotiate the contract are settled. It makes perfect sense to wait it off to see the outcome of this beuracratic chaos before putting more money into this.

[Durgapur]

Did the name really get changed to Bengaluru? i thought it was a hoax.
anyway, is AAI talking over the aiport after its completion.

[Raichen]

Originally Posted by mailabode

May i put it in this way -

It was because BIAL created history by being lethargic unlike what we have been used too all along - that it became fit to report its (alleged) lethargy as NEWS.

The idiot BIAL must learn from high-energy, efficient examples like this one:
http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showpo...&postcount=779

Is this pic real?

[Suncity]

Originally Posted by Raichen

Is this pic real?

yes.

And here is another sample from Kolkata. Notice the aesthic sense is completely missing where they have created multiple slopes at irregular intervals from the kerb to the street level.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/kuyo/26...7605655532676/

[mailabode]

Originally Posted by Raichen

Is this pic real?

It was confirmed by VVR and one other forumer as a pic of chandigarh Airport. VVR posted it first. I assume he was serious. I have not seen that though.

Anyway i have seen AAI airports that during expansions were quite bad and nowhere close to BIA. And may i add that - this example i gave only to draw attention to the fact that MPVP's and many politcians's abysmal descriptions about BIA made no sense, because projects that were under their purview were pathetic flops. And i get annoyed by politcians's rants(made in the asembly) because most of them actually dont even care about any project whether it be BIA or some other. This is in stark contrast to someone like an S.M. Krishna who had at least an inkling of where he was going, what he was doing and about what he was speaking.

Maybe its ok for politicians to exagerrate or lie when getting at one another(that's inbetween them), but to go beyond that and make a impudent distortive joke out of a project just to gain cheap political mileage i thought was an insult to the public.

[Raichen]

Originally Posted by mailabode

It was confirmed by VVR and one other forumer as a pic of chandigarh Airport. VVR posted it first. I assume he was serious. I have not seen that though.

WTF is AAI thinking? How do they expect passengers to push the luggage cart on that uneven pebble filled surface?

Initially I thought someone stole the luggage cart from the airport and took this pic in some rural back alley or something.

[dakshinapraja]

AAI and thinking?...

[Raichen]

Are there any new updates on when KF will start flying to SFO & LHR from BIA

[Nag123]

yeah. No news abt SFO/LHR at KF's web site. As per plan they were supposed to start operation by Aug end.

[mailabode]

Originally Posted by Raichen

WTF is AAI thinking? How do they expect passengers to push the luggage cart on that uneven pebble filled surface?

AAI advices both men and women to go to the gym and develop some muscle and improve fitness and stamina before using the airport(pathway)

[mpvp]

Originally Posted by dakshinapraja

Oh yeah, BIAL is sooo lethargic. Whereas AAI, would have by now not only done the planning, but also finished construction. Sure...

BIAL is supposed to be lead by world class aviation people whereas AAI by so called incapable desis, right?

So what happened to the mighty BIAL for becoming lethargic?

[mpvp]

Originally Posted by mailabode

And may i add that - this example i gave only to draw attention to the fact that MPVP's and many politcians's abysmal descriptions about BIA made no sense, because projects that were under their purview were pathetic flops.

How did you come to the conclusion that Iam a politician?
Again you have revealed your status of brain as before.

[mpvp]

Originally Posted by Raichen

Thanks mpvp for coming back, we were wondering where you went, this thread almost died after you left.

Ya,I Know you all want HAL airport to re-open deep in your hearts and that is you probably you missed me for sometime.

Originally Posted by Raichen

Anyways, there is nothing lethargic about it, you would do the same. What about those who have filed petitions to prevent BIAL from expansion and there are talks/meetings about Govt trying to pull off a coup against BIAL.

I think BIAL will not invest anymore until this HAL saga and the threats to re-negotiate the contract are settled. It makes perfect sense to wait it off to see the outcome of this beuracratic chaos before putting more money into this.

Or is it due to the fact that BIA consortium doesnot have any money left with them (as some reports indicate) for expansion?