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Old October 21st, 2008, 11:38 PM   #21
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Je veux le terminal passagers lié à Casa et Tanger par TGV parce que j'irai peut être vivre à Tanger dans quelques années et j'adore prendre le bâteau pour l'Espagne! héhé
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Old October 26th, 2008, 11:50 AM   #22
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Its about cargo, its biggest in cargo transport not passenger transport
well its not the biggest in Africa eaither as both Durban and Cape Town are bigger and Shaldahna and Richards Bay export more (tonnage)
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Old November 2nd, 2008, 12:25 PM   #23
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well its not the biggest in Africa eaither as both Durban and Cape Town are bigger and Shaldahna and Richards Bay export more (tonnage)
Uhm, no. Because the harbor composes more than 1 terminal. At the moment yes, but thats because only terminal 1 is finished. Terminal 2 is being built as we speak and the plans for terminal 3 are on the table. Will take 10 years before it reaches full capacity - or maybe more with the current plans. Currently med port terminal 1 is already capable of handling more than 3.5 million TEU's. If Tanger med II is completed (in the year 2015), an amount of 10 million TEU's will be reached. Compared to the 2.3 million TEU's of Durban, and 0.8 million TEU's of Cape Town at the moment....its a big difference. But indeed at this moment, the South African ports are bigger in terms of export tonnage, which isnt really that odd, since the Tanger port has hardly been open for 1 year.

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Old November 2nd, 2008, 12:49 PM   #24
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Some pics of Tanger-med terminal 1 (still not finished completely btw, and this is an older pic also, so there is more progress then shown here.) Source Flickr:

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Old November 9th, 2008, 11:05 AM   #25
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Uhm, no. Because the harbor composes more than 1 terminal. At the moment yes, but thats because only terminal 1 is finished. Terminal 2 is being built as we speak and the plans for terminal 3 are on the table. Will take 10 years before it reaches full capacity - or maybe more with the current plans. Currently med port terminal 1 is already capable of handling more than 3.5 million TEU's. If Tanger med II is completed (in the year 2015), an amount of 10 million TEU's will be reached. Compared to the 2.3 million TEU's of Durban, and 0.8 million TEU's of Cape Town at the moment....its a big difference. But indeed at this moment, the South African ports are bigger in terms of export tonnage, which isnt really that odd, since the Tanger port has hardly been open for 1 year.
I was at the Med Hub last week, we're looking into a possibility of supporting hub for Africa business. Impressive the work achieved since this time last year. Are you also aware of the tunnel that will be built between Spain Morocco, via rail link, similar to UK Channel Tunnel.
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Old November 11th, 2008, 07:54 PM   #26
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Its about cargo, its biggest in cargo transport not passenger transport
Hum hum. Tanger will be the most important harbour of Africa (I have no statistics for Richards Bay) but not of Medditerranean Sea: Marseille is 100 Mt per year. Genova and Algeciras are not far away.

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Old November 12th, 2008, 07:22 PM   #27
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Hum hum. Tanger will be the most important harbour of Africa (I have no statistics for Richards Bay) but not of Medditerranean Sea: Marseille is 100 Mt per year. Genova and Algeciras are not far away.

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Algeciras is losing its market to the Tanger Med port. Your statistics are only taking into account med port 1. As i already stated before, Tanger med will consists of 3 terminals, just 1 is finished...you cant compare an unfinished port with a finished one right? Besides, your numbers are from 2006. Tanger med terminal 1 opened July 2007.....:o

Anyway, OXFORD university has done a study on the Tanger port, and guess what:

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Tanger-Med, after completion of its recently launched expansion phase, will become by far the largest container port in the Mediterranean and one of the five largest in Europe. It will not only shape the country's economy, significantly pushing down logistical costs, but also create new opportunities in logistics and industries, putting Morocco on the world maritime map and improving its competitiveness as an outsourcing hub for Europe.
Im not making stuff up, neither is Oxford university. So not only the biggest port of Africa, but also of the mediterranean. Don't kill me now.

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Old November 12th, 2008, 10:46 PM   #28
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Im not making stuff up, neither is Oxford university. So not only the biggest port of Africa, but also of the mediterranean. Don't kill me now.
I've got nothing against Oxford University but if they pretend that Tanger's habour will be one of the five largest in Europe, I'm a bit surprized.
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Old November 13th, 2008, 10:07 AM   #29
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I've got nothing against Oxford University but if they pretend that Tanger's habour will be one of the five largest in Europe, I'm a bit surprized.
Depends on which perspective you have on the region. Geographically it aint Europe, but it will be a European transport HUB, since most of the companies that will use the harbour will be European. Ofcourse you dont have to believe a thing about it all, perhaps every one is lying except wikipedia. I dont think any discussion about the size will bring us further. So lets get back to the Tanger Med itself and the opportunities it offers.
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Old November 28th, 2008, 12:00 AM   #30
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Tanger-Med Maritime Terminal designed by a Morrocan




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Old December 2nd, 2008, 09:28 PM   #31
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Hum hum. Tanger will be the most important harbour of Africa (I have no statistics for Richards Bay) but not of Medditerranean Sea: Marseille is 100 Mt per year. Genova and Algeciras are not far away.

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Marseille, 100Mt per year
Maybe, When they are not on strike!!
Sorry, I'm just kidding you.


Tangier (3,5M EVP) is now more important than Marseille-Fos (0,9M EVP), Le havre (2,3M EVP) and Algesiras (3,3M EVP) in terms of Containerization.
Worlds standard service are provided, with a very good and fast logistic, for lower prices.

Tanger-med is a very competitive harbour for the sea traffic between Asia, Europe and America


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Old December 3rd, 2008, 11:48 AM   #32
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TANGIER | Reconversion of the Old Port | 735 millions $ |#Accepted

Zaha Hadid Proposition for the Tangier's Actual Port Reconversion.
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Old December 3rd, 2008, 01:09 PM   #33
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Thats a slick design. It will be a port for yachts and cruiseships right? Because the passenger terminal for the ferries will be moved to Tanger-med right?
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Old December 3rd, 2008, 02:19 PM   #34
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Yes, that's it!
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Old December 4th, 2008, 05:18 AM   #35
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I always thought they were going to turn it in to a much more dense marina in central Tangier.
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Old December 4th, 2008, 07:12 PM   #36
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I always thought they were going to turn it in to a much more dense marina in central Tangier.
They dont have the room for that, the medina is located near the marina.
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Old December 5th, 2008, 09:42 AM   #37
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Density is more logical because of pression of investissors.
This response is more credible.
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Old December 7th, 2008, 04:23 PM   #38
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Old December 31st, 2008, 12:36 PM   #39
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Construction pics of the port: (source flickr)

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Bonuspic - Ferry from Tarifa to Tanger (Tanger city in the background)
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