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Old April 29th, 2009, 11:17 AM   #1
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Bangalore High Speed Rail Link | Proposed

Project Introduction:

The Karnataka Government is planning to build a high-speed rail to connect the city centre to the Bangalore International Airport Devanahalli at a cost of above Rs 6,000 crore. The high-speed rail will start from BRV Grounds on MG Road . It will have two stops at Hebbal and Yelahanka before reaching the airport. It is expected to cover the 34-km distance in less than 25 minutes.

The State Government has shortlisted five consortia for executing the project under public-private partnership. The final concessionaire is expected to be appointed in October 2010 and construction is likely to begin in January 2011.

The short listed consortia are:
  • Reliance Infrastructure and CSR Nanjing Puzhen Rolling Stock Company of China
  • Larsen & Toubro and Transco Ltd
  • ITD-ITD Cementation joint venture (Italian–Thai Development Public Company and ITD Cementation India Limited)
  • Pioneer Infratech and Siemens Project Ventures Gmbh
  • Lanco Infratech and OHL Concesiones

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Old April 29th, 2009, 11:26 AM   #2
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don't drop hsrl:shreedhran

Dont drop rail link: Sreedharan

P M Raghunandan,S Praveen Dhaneshkar,DHNS,B'lore:

Delhi Metro Rail Corporation (DMRC) chief E Sreedharan has advised Chief Minister Yeddyurappa not to derail the proposed high speed rail link (HSRL) project which, according to him, is badly needed for the City.

Sreedharan’s advice comes close on the heels of the State Government almost deciding to give up the proposed HSRL to Bangalore International Airport (BIA).

In a three-page letter to the chief minister dated September 30, 2008, Sreedharan has expressed “surprise” at the government’s examining a new metro alignment to the BIA. “When the HSRL project has been put on a fast track, it was surprising to know from newspapers that the government is examining a new metro alignment to the BIA. Any talk of a metro connection to the BIA will completely derail the badly needed HSRL to the airport,” he stated in the letter.

It is learnt that the government has set the ball rolling for possible alternatives to the HSRL. Once ready, the matter will be placed before the State Cabinet to come out with a government order to drop the HSRL project.
The rail link to the BIAL came up for discussion at the Agenda for Bangalore Infrastructure Development (ABIDe) meeting on September 26, 2008. Many members felt the HSRL will be expensive and that the metro should be implemented to the airport also.

Project put on hold

Following the meeting, Karnataka State Industrial Investment and Development Corporation, the nodal agency to implement the HSRL project, has virtually put the project on hold. It has even stopped communication with companies that have filed expression of interest documents to implement the project.

As many as 25 big companies, including Reliance Infrastructure, Tata Realty and Infrastructure (both India), Mitsubishi Corporation, (Japan), CAF, Construcciones Network Ltd and IERS (South Africa), Dywidag (Germany) and Alstom Transport (France), have interests in the project, proposed to be implemented on a build-operate-and-transfer basis on 30-year lease.

The managing director of DMRC, consultant for the HSRL project, has listed 13points explaining how the HSRL is better suited to connect Bangalore City with the airport than other rail systems, including metro. He has offered to personally come down to Bangalore to clarify the subject, if necessary, to the chief minister.

The Infrastructure Development Department and ABIDe have already sent proposals to the South Western Railways and the BMRCL to suggest cost-effective and quick transfer alternatives to reach the BIAL. Letters to this effect have already been dispatched by the principal secretary of the Infrastructure Department to the CEO of the BIAL informing them about the proposal to introduce an exclusive train service by the SWR between BIAL and the City, via Yeshwanthpur and Yelahanka.

A copy of the letter available with Deccan Herald states that the train will have four coaches with a maximum capacity of 1,000 passengers to ply to Devanahalli from the City Railway Station and Bangalore Cantonment Station. A platform and ticketing counter at the BIAL flyover has also been proposed.
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donot drop hsrl

Dont drop rail link: Sreedharan

P M Raghunandan,S Praveen Dhaneshkar,DHNS,B'lore:

Delhi Metro Rail Corporation (DMRC) chief E Sreedharan has advised Chief Minister Yeddyurappa not to derail the proposed high speed rail link (HSRL) project which, according to him, is badly needed for the City.

Sreedharan’s advice comes close on the heels of the State Government almost deciding to give up the proposed HSRL to Bangalore International Airport (BIA).

In a three-page letter to the chief minister dated September 30, 2008, Sreedharan has expressed “surprise” at the government’s examining a new metro alignment to the BIA. “When the HSRL project has been put on a fast track, it was surprising to know from newspapers that the government is examining a new metro alignment to the BIA. Any talk of a metro connection to the BIA will completely derail the badly needed HSRL to the airport,” he stated in the letter.

It is learnt that the government has set the ball rolling for possible alternatives to the HSRL. Once ready, the matter will be placed before the State Cabinet to come out with a government order to drop the HSRL project.
The rail link to the BIAL came up for discussion at the Agenda for Bangalore Infrastructure Development (ABIDe) meeting on September 26, 2008. Many members felt the HSRL will be expensive and that the metro should be implemented to the airport also.

Project put on hold

Following the meeting, Karnataka State Industrial Investment and Development Corporation, the nodal agency to implement the HSRL project, has virtually put the project on hold. It has even stopped communication with companies that have filed expression of interest documents to implement the project.

As many as 25 big companies, including Reliance Infrastructure, Tata Realty and Infrastructure (both India), Mitsubishi Corporation, (Japan), CAF, Construcciones Network Ltd and IERS (South Africa), Dywidag (Germany) and Alstom Transport (France), have interests in the project, proposed to be implemented on a build-operate-and-transfer basis on 30-year lease.

The managing director of DMRC, consultant for the HSRL project, has listed 13points explaining how the HSRL is better suited to connect Bangalore City with the airport than other rail systems, including metro. He has offered to personally come down to Bangalore to clarify the subject, if necessary, to the chief minister.

The Infrastructure Development Department and ABIDe have already sent proposals to the South Western Railways and the BMRCL to suggest cost-effective and quick transfer alternatives to reach the BIAL. Letters to this effect have already been dispatched by the principal secretary of the Infrastructure Department to the CEO of the BIAL informing them about the proposal to introduce an exclusive train service by the SWR between BIAL and the City, via Yeshwanthpur and Yelahanka.

A copy of the letter available with Deccan Herald states that the train will have four coaches with a maximum capacity of 1,000 passengers to ply to Devanahalli from the City Railway Station and Bangalore Cantonment Station. A platform and ticketing counter at the BIAL flyover has also been proposed.
Source: Deccan Herald
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Old April 29th, 2009, 11:35 AM   #4
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HSRL is cheaper and ideal: Sreedharan

HSRL is cheaper and ideal: Sreedharan

S Praveen Dhaneshkar,P M Raghunandan,DH News Service,Bangalore:

DMRC Chief E Sreedharan has warned the State government that any talk of an alternative to high speed rail link to Bangalore International Airport at this juncture, would dissuade and discourage the private companies, which have come forward to implement the project.

“The government should never think of a metro to the airport in the present context and once the HSRL is in position, there will be no need for a metro at all,” he stated in the letter to the CM.
According the DMRC MD, HSRL costs only Rs 3,800 crore, while metro to BIA costs at least Rs 5,000 crore. Moreover, the government has to make huge investments as equity for metro, while HSRL is proposed on public private partnership model and the government would spend only a small amount.
However, Prof M N Sreehari, Advisor to the State government for Traffic, Transport and Infrastructure and expert member, ABIDe said, “The whole aim of an alternative is to suggest alternatives that are cost effective or worth implementing with the available infrastructure. One proposal already sent to the SWR entails running the train that terminates at Yerthaganahalli, near the trumpet interchange loop to BIA. With available infrastructure the SWR has to just construct a station. It will be a one hour journey. A reply from the SWR is awaited.”

Metro too in race

Meanwhile, the BMRCL also confirmed receiving a proposal from the Infrastructure Development Department asking it to conduct a pre-feasibility survey to connect the BIA from Byappanahalli, with it having an advantage of being a depot and terminating point of metro rail in the Eastern part of the City.

Revival of proposal

N Sivasailam, MD of BMRCL said, “RITES had earlier (2005) done a report to have the ‘Namma Metro’ run upto Devanahalli. It will be a fresh relook into reviving the proposal. We should be able to complete the survey project in three times time. The Ministry of Urban Development (MuD) at the Centre would contribute 80 per cent of the project cost, while the State will fund the remaining 20 percent”
HSRL global tenders a waste of time and money ?
Over Rs 7 crore of tax-payers’ money will go down the drain if HSRL project is scrapped. Karnataka State Industrial Investment and Development Corporation (KSIIDC), the nodal agency entrusted to implement the project, has so far completed nearly nine per cent of work.
“We had called for global expression of interest for the Rs 5,700 crore HSRL project to BIA on a PPP model has already completed the RFQ (Request for Qualification) process after receiving bids from 27 companies/consortia,” official sources said.
The proposal for HSRL was first mooted in September 2007, during Governor’s rule when P K H Tharakan was special advisor to Rameshwar Thakur.

13 REASONS FAVOURING HSRL

*HSRL is cheaper than metro
*Metro needs large scale land acquisition
*Metro travel time from city to BIA is one hour, HSRL 23 minutes
*Metro cannot be implemented under PPP model
*Metro not ideal for connecting far off places like BIA
*Metro cannot have check-in facilities
*Metro connecting airport in other countries hardly patronised
*Metro to airport is not part of CTTP plan
*Metro needs heavy subsidies, HSRL does not need any.
*HSRL doesn’t need much land as it runs on pillars
*Metro is viable only if the ridership is over 25,000 per hour per direction
*With B’lore getting into the league of major international cities, HSRL is unavoidable
* Any talk of alternative will de-rail proposed HSRL
Source: Deccan Herald
07 Jan 2009
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Old April 29th, 2009, 11:39 AM   #5
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HEY PEOPLE LET'S KEEP TRACK OF HIGH SPEED RAIL LINK AFTER ALL IT'S AN ANOTHER JEWEL IN BANGALORE CROWN
What jewel in Bangalore's crown? The high speed rail link hasn't even taken off yet!

It's been proposed for years and they have yet to procure all the land they need.
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Old April 29th, 2009, 11:40 AM   #6
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What is the point of this thread if the first article you post is about the Bangalore Government deciding to drop the High Speed Rail Link?
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Old April 30th, 2009, 02:44 PM   #7
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New lease of life for High Speed Rail Link

Bangalore : The High Speed Rail Link (HSRL) to Bengaluru International Airport (BIA) is all set to pick up speed after initial hiccups.
The Rs 5,700-crore project is coming up for the Viability Gap Funding (VGF) review by the central government.

Notwithstanding the economic meltdown, 27 companies of international repute have applied for the public-private partnership (PPP) project.

Billed as one of the largest PPP projects, the proposal will be placed before the Centre for clearance to avail of Rs 1,040 crore, a grant to be released under VGF. The meeting, earlier scheduled for this week, has been postponed to May 10. Once the project is cleared, the VGF will be released during implementation.

The project was stalled for a while last year due to bureaucratic wrangles. Just when everything seemed on track, the infrastructure development department and ABIDe lobbied hard against it and suggested alternatives. However, the implementing agency, Karnataka State Industrial Investment Development Corporation (KSIIDC), and Delhi Metro Rail's E Sreedharan, pushed for the project. Finally, the state cabinet, which met in Belgaum during the legislative session in January, gave its nod -- all over again.

Earlier, tenders were floated for Request For Qualification in August but after cabinet approval, KSIIDC called for a second pre-bid meeting next month with the 27 firms which participated in the tendering process.

The 34-km rail link starts from M G Road and runs along the right side of the national highway to reach BIA. For the project, an estimated 162 acres have to be acquired, of which 130 are private and NHAI lands. Compensation of Rs 532 crore has been allocated for private lands and government/BBMP properties will be acquired free of cost.
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yup exactly that's what i meant after initial hiccups the project is now gaining momentum and any project would have stiff resistance to start with & it has to be overcome the resistance as the project is in Bangalore's interest and according to mr.sheerdharan only hsrl can be implemented under ppp
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Old June 4th, 2009, 01:49 PM   #9
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High Speed Rail Link: Greater Bangalore to go bigger

Hi,


This is primarily to facilitate the High Speed Rail Link (HSRL), which is being taken up under the Mysore Tramway Act instead of the Railways Act. This is because the criteria demand that the project fall under an urban municipal body. If implemented under the Mysore Tramway Act, it will remain with the government and not the railways.

The government, in an order on February 28 issued to bring in certain modifications to the HSRL, has said: "Extend the BBMP area to cover Bengaluru International Airport area.'' According to BBMP commissioner S Subramanya, the inclusion has been mainly done keeping in view the HSRL. The Tramway Act, 1905, says the project can be taken up only on lands situated under an urban body, whereas now, the lands for the project are under suburban and rural areas.

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Old June 4th, 2009, 03:43 PM   #10
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can anyone exp wat is hsrl and difference with metro,is their any design and dpr or just in proposal stage
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can anyone exp wat is hsrl and difference with metro,is their any design and dpr or just in proposal stage

Even I wanted to know about it.
if its for 34km
What speed rail would travel?
--120Kmp?
Won't there be any stoppings in between? if so how many?
-- if no stoppings then its nothing but a stupid plan.
--- if it work well, it will congest the MG Road.
-- if every 5 km one stopping, then Why HSRL?
--- We dont gain much time in travelling, rather it will be fuel inefficiency
--- What would be the time to reach BIA from MG Road?
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WELL THERE WOULD BE TWO STOPS ON THE WAY ONE AT HEBBAL AND OTHER AT YELAHANKA THE COST WOULD BE 200 RS FROM M.G ROAD ,150 RS FROM HEBBAL AND 100 RS FROM YELAHANKA AND IT WOULD TAKE 23 MINS FROM MG ROAD TO B.I.A.L
THERE ARE ONLY TWO STOPS BECAUSE METRO FORM EVERY PART OF CITY IS LINKED TO MG ROAD ,MONO RAIL WHICH IS YET TO COMMENCE WILL LINK OUTER RING ROAD(WHICH ALSO CONNECTS HEBBAL) AND YELAHANKA
SO THESE TO STEPS SHOULD ENSURE FASTER CONNECTIVITY WITH LESS NUMBER OF STOPS BENEFITING MORE NUMBER OF PEOPLE

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can anyone exp wat is hsrl and difference with metro,is their any design and dpr or just in proposal stage

THE DIFFERENCE B/W H.S.R.L AND METRO IS H.S.R.L CAN BE IMPLEMENTED UNDER PUBLIC PRIVATE PARTNERSHIP WHERE THE GOVT IS JUST PAYING FOR THE LAND AND REST OF THE MONEY FOR THE PROJECT IS PUMPED IN BY THE PRIVATE PARTNER .WHERE AS METRO CANNOT BE IMPLEMENTED UNDER PUBLIC PRIVATE PARTNERSHIP AND GOVT (STATE 75% CENTRAL 25%) HAS TO BEAR THE ENTIRE COST OF THE PROJECT .H.S.R.L REQUIRES LESS LAND THAN METRO. IN CASE OF HSRL AUTHORITY TO FIX THE TRAVEL FEE LIES WITH GOVT AND GOVT SHARE IS VERY NOMINAL WHICH INCLUDES JUST THE LAND COST AND PRIVATE OPERATOR CAN ENJOY THE BENEFITS FOR NEXT 30 YRS. AND TIME OF COMMUTE IS SHORTER IT TAKES 23 MINS FOR H.S.R.L AND 40-50 MINS FOR METRO

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WELL THERE WOULD BE TWO STOPS ON THE WAY ONE AT HEBBAL AND OTHER AT YELAHANKA THE COST WOULD BE 200 RS FROM M.G ROAD ,150 RS FROM HEBBAL AND 100 RS FROM YELAHANKA AND IT WOULD TAKE 23 MINS FROM MG ROAD TO B.I.A.L
THERE ARE ONLY TWO STOPS BECAUSE METRO FORM EVERY PART OF CITY IS LINKED TO MG ROAD ,MONO RAIL WHICH IS YET TO COMMENCE WILL LINK OUTER RING ROAD(WHICH ALSO CONNECTS HEBBAL) AND YELAHANKA
SO THESE TO STEPS SHOULD ENSURE FASTER CONNECTIVITY WITH LESS NUMBER OF STOPS BENEFITING MORE NUMBER OF PEOPLE

Thanks avinash,
Thats what my concern is, if I need to transfer the stations with luggages, I would prefer to go in a taxi. More over most of the time i'll be in official trips and wouldn't care about the taxi payment as my office would any way pay it.
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High-speed rail to BIA gets green light
22 Jun 2009, 0437 hrs IST, S KUSHALA , TNN

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BANGALORE: The High Speed Rail Link (HSRL) to Bengaluru International Airport, which was on the drawing board for nearly two years, is set to see
some action. The Centre has given the go-ahead to the project, along with committing some funds, and has asked the implementing authorities to hasten it.

The project went for a review in May, and the Centre gave its nod and agreed to take care of the Viability Gap Funding. The VGF pattern has been worked out on three parameters, in which the land acquisition cost is not taken into account.

The implementing agency — Karnataka State Industrial Investment Development Corporation, which already has 27 bidders for the Request For Qualification — will open the bids in August last week. The next step is technical bids.

After several bureaucratic hitches, the Rs 5,767-crore project has gathered steam. The 34-km high-speed rail link will start from MG Road, run along the right side of National Highway up to BIA. The elevated train will go underground at BIA, below the airport lounge, which is 100 metres from check-in counters. It will take the underground route soon after the trumpet changeover for about 12 metres.

The project requires 162-acre land on the highway. With the market bust, the compensation amount has been estimated at Rs 532 crore. The HSRL will start from BRV Grounds and have two stops — at Hebbal and Yelahanka. There is a proposal for integration at Minsk Square of Phase I and Yelahanka of Phase II.
Funding devised on 3 parameters, P 3
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High-speed rail to BIA gets green light
22 Jun 2009, 0437 hrs IST, S KUSHALA , TNN

BANGALORE: The High Speed Rail Link (HSRL) to Bengaluru International Airport, which was on the drawing board for nearly two years, is set to see
some action. The Centre has given the go-ahead to the project, along with committing some funds, and has asked the implementing authorities to hasten it.

The project went for a review in May, and the Centre gave its nod and agreed to take care of the Viability Gap Funding. The VGF pattern has been worked out on three parameters, in which the land acquisition cost is not taken into account.

The implementing agency — Karnataka State Industrial Investment Development Corporation, which already has 27 bidders for the Request For Qualification — will open the bids in August last week. The next step is technical bids.

After several bureaucratic hitches, the Rs 5,767-crore project has gathered steam. The 34-km high-speed rail link will start from MG Road, run along the right side of National Highway up to BIA. The elevated train will go underground at BIA, below the airport lounge, which is 100 metres from check-in counters. It will take the underground route soon after the trumpet changeover for about 12 metres.

The project requires 162-acre land on the highway. With the market bust, the compensation amount has been estimated at Rs 532 crore. The HSRL will start from BRV Grounds and have two stops — at Hebbal and Yelahanka. There is a proposal for integration at Minsk Square of Phase I and Yelahanka of Phase II.
Funding devised on 3 parameters, P 3
Ideal plan, Super.
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congrats bangalore... hope this goes through...
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Ideal plan, Super.
Great for Bangalore. I always wondered what could be the long term solution for traffic towards BIAL. One comment I have thought is they should probably have more stations en-route to the airport.
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5000 crore rail link project for a 2000 crore airport that would be used by minority travellers? this is a big joke. i am sure bangalore has many more priority projects.
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5000 crore rail link project for a 2000 crore airport that would be used by minority travellers? this is a big joke. i am sure bangalore has many more priority projects.
Ya for those high end minority travelers that bring big business to the city!
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