When Will Toronto Get A Supertall??

[Kensingtonian]

oh man, i remember getting stuck on the waterfront side of that at-grade freeway in Chicago, not knowing i would have to walk for over half an hour to find an underpass.

[3521usa]

Originally Posted by monkeyronin

"durr hurr my city bettar than urs!!!" seems to be an accurate summation of all of 3521usa's posts in this thread.

Whatever you say but I'm not the one who keeps measuring up my city to another to feel better about myself.

[monkeyronin]

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You might want to re-read all your posts.

[3521usa]

And you might want to re-read all the other ignorant posts and stop focusing all of your attention on mine.

[CollsGuy]

I have a feeling someone visits a Toronto thread from time to time, just to see what the competition has in store. Yes competition. You cant deny it, or you wouldn't be here arguing why Chicago has this and that. That's your opinion your entitled to it. Be humble have a chuckle and and walk away.

[Grey Towers]

Boy, how did a chap with such a yawning indifference to Toronto "inadvertantly" bumble his way into the Toronto forums, then make a point of returning again and again to refute others' opinions and spread unpleasantness?
You say, "Toronto never crosses my mind when I think of traveling"? Nobody here gives a shit what crosses your obviously shuttered mind. Multitudes of world travellers and immigrants do see value in coming to Toronto. Your kind of rabble-rouser, with irrational, uninformed preconceived hatreds, is going to find a way to have a miserable time and single out deficiencies on a visit to Toronto anyway, so best to stay home and experience the continual orgasm that is just an incidental perk of life in your utopia.

If I had to take my cues on a Toronto/Chicago comparison - something that shouldn't be discussed here anyway - it would be from someone like "heckles", who professes to have lived in and explored both places, and who has complimentary things to say about both (though admittedly more complimentary of Toronto). I haven't been to Chi-town, so I wouldn't deign to comment on it apart from what can be seen in pictures. Based on pictures and building stats, it does have a better skyline and superior architecture, but the disparity is not that pronounced in my opinion.

[3521usa]

Originally Posted by CollsGuy

I have a feeling someone visits a Toronto thread from time to time, just to see what the competition has in store. Yes competition. You cant deny it, or you wouldn't be here arguing why Chicago has this and that. That's your opinion your entitled to it. Be humble have a chuckle and and walk away.

Don't flatter yourself...I've never visited a Toronto thread until yesterday when I accidentally clicked when I saw the word "Supertall" in the title of a thread on the main page. Toronto is not Chicago's competition but you can continue to beleive that it is if that's what it takes to make you feel better.

[3521usa]

Originally Posted by Grey Towers

Boy, how did a chap with such a yawning indifference to Toronto "inadvertantly" bumble his way into the Toronto forums, then make a point of returning again and again to refute others' opinions and spread unpleasantness?
You say, "Toronto never crosses my mind when I think of traveling"? Nobody here gives a shit what crosses your obviously shuttered mind. Multitudes of world travellers and immigrants do see value in coming to Toronto. Your kind of rabble-rouser, with irrational, uninformed preconceived hatreds, is going to find a way to have a miserable time and single out deficiencies on a visit to Toronto anyway, so best to stay home and experience the continual orgasm that is just an incidental perk of life in your utopia.

If I had to take my cues on a Toronto/Chicago comparison - something that shouldn't be discussed here anyway - it would be from someone like "heckles", who professes to have lived in and explored both places, and who has complimentary things to say about both (though admittedly more complimentary of Toronto). I haven't been to Chi-town, so I wouldn't deign to comment on it apart from what can be seen in pictures. Based on pictures and building stats, it does have a better skyline and superior architecture, but the disparity is not that pronounced in my opinion.

Wow, someone sounds angry. I don't have any preconceived hatred towards Toronto. I also haven't bashed Toronto like some of you envious losers have bashed Chicago. I have noticed in lots of threads, Toronto natives are always trying to measure up their city with another city and I think it's silly. I'm not here to bash Toronto because I don't know much about it nor do I care to know much about it. With that said, when I run into a thread where I see idiots who know's nothing about my city taking cheap shots at it in order to feel better about theirs, I will always step up and say something whether they like it or not.

Btw, the reason I keep coming back is because I thought we were having a conversation and it'd be rude of me to just leave in the middle of it. You guys aren't rude like that in Toronto are you?

[Looking/Up]

Originally Posted by 3521usa

I also haven't bashed Toronto like some of you envious losers have bashed Chicago.

You're a pleasant fellow, aren't you? You've managed to not only insult the city, but the people as well.

Originally Posted by 3521usa

when I run into a thread where I see idiots who know's nothing about my city taking cheap shots at it in order to feel better about theirs

And yet you have a managed to highlight your ignorance so well.

Originally Posted by 3521usa

the reason I keep coming back is because I thought we were having a conversation and it'd be rude of me to just leave in the middle of it.

Yet you managed to come off as incredibly rude anyway. Epic. Fail.



Generally, what is so disheartening about your posts, USA, is this seeming pride you display in not knowing anything about Toronto, nor wanting to. Since when is remaining closed-minded something to be proud about? Instead of being defensive, it would probably be more constructive to take part in a general conversation aimed at building knowledge.

[Mollywood]

In North America, there is only 1 city that kicks Toronto's ass and it definitely ain't Chicago. lol In my humble opinion, ONLY New York City can take that title.

I've been to Chicago, Boston, Miami and Washington DC and they are all pretty decent cities but kinda dull at street level. The street life in all those cities is lacking and you can't be a great city with quite, dull or empty downtown streets. NYC is the most vibrant, lively city in NA, followed by Montreal and then Toronto. (Outside of Mexico) I haven't been to San Francisco or LA but I have checked them out extensively, on Google street maps and Youtube videos. While SF looks pretty cool and interesting, Los Angles is like a friggin ghost town. lol (I think it's true, NOBODY WALKS IN LA) I guess that's fine, if you want to live an isolated existence, in your car, but for people who love cities, urbanites, that's just NOT cool. The only way to really enjoy a city, is walking around and exploring all the cool, interesting parts.

One thing I use to measure cool, happening cities, is to look at how many outdoor patios there are on the streets. Having a lot of outdoor street patios, really makes a city come alive in the summer. Cities with lots of outdoor street patios are Paris, London, New York, Montreal and Toronto. Is it a coincidence, that those are also the liveliest cities and are considered great places to be? Can you believe LA has so few outdoor patios on it's streets, with that weather? It's probably because they seem to love their strip malls and would rather fill every street with them. SF also seems to have few patios on their streets. (that's surprising!)

Don't get me started on multiculturalism and ethnic integration! lol Chicago isn't even close to Toronto, in that regard, but they do score higher, when it comes to great museums/art galleries. Toronto could use a few more major museums and art galleries to round out our great neighbourhoods and waterfront. Of course, when it comes to architecture and historic buildings, Chicago kicks our ass too but in regards to urban design and over-all layout of the city, I much prefer Toronto.

Anyway, Chicago is not our main competition, NYC is, and Toronto is much more like NYC anyway. OK, that's my 2 cents worth, on the matter.

[salvius]

Originally Posted by Mollywood

In North America, there is only 1 city that kicks Toronto's ass and it definitely ain't Chicago. lol In my humble opinion, ONLY New York City can take that title.

I think that should be labeled 'in my opinion.' Toronto's my preferred place on this continent once everything is factored in, but reasonable people may disagree.

[elliot]

Chicago means "stinky onion" (garlic).

Toronto means "tall trees standing in water".

Discuss.

[rick1016]

It's unbelievable that some threads get locked for such ridiculous reasons, but something like this stays open... Are the mods asleep or something?

[Jaye101]

Quite the contrary, I haven't slept in days.