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Old May 9th, 2009, 09:55 AM   #121
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Wangsimni Station, recently reconstructed. which is in Seongdong-gu.
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AMAZING! i could live on that station! there's an IMAX in it *_*
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There are green parts of Seoul but they're mostly trees, but are there any grass parks in the city. I don't remember once playing football in Korea on a grass, only sand...
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There are green parts of Seoul but they're mostly trees, but are there any grass parks in the city. I don't remember once playing football in Korea on a grass, only sand...
I think I heard from one of my friends that it's really hard to grow grass in Korea since most part of the country is mountainous (70%). That's why even the schools have large soccer fields but the grounds are sand unfortunately
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I think I heard from one of my friends that it's really hard to grow grass in Korea since most part of the country is mountainous (70%). That's why even the schools have large soccer fields but the grounds are sand unfortunately
Such a lame excuse not to have more grass land in Korea. I am talking about the kind of grass that stays green all year long.
If you say, too many people distroy the grass, I might agree with you but 70% of Korea is mountainous is not. I do think that Koreans care less about a neat and greener living. It is all greyish in every city. So depressing and stressful.
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Such a lame excuse not to have more grass land in Korea. I am talking about the kind of grass that stays green all year long.
If you say, too many people distroy the grass, I might agree with you but 70% of Korea is mountainous is not. I do think that Koreans care less about a neat and greener living. It is all greyish in every city. So depressing and stressful.
I know it's a lame excuse but you have to consider the yellow dust
that affects Korea big time during the Spring and the monsoons during
the summer that bring heavy rain. But you have to admit that Seoul
is in fact greening a lot more than it used to. Look at the number of parks
in Seoul that are growing and the government is now even considering
using the banks of Han River into green areas with parks and attractions.
I'm sure Seoul's smog level has decreased big time over the last few years
especially with Cheonggyecheon as well. Another thing might be because
Seoul is located in a valley surrounded by mountains so it's a perfect trap
for smog...just like Mexico City
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Old May 21st, 2009, 11:07 PM   #132
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I know it's a lame excuse but you have to consider the yellow dust
that affects Korea big time during the Spring and the monsoons during
the summer that bring heavy rain. But you have to admit that Seoul
is in fact greening a lot more than it used to. Look at the number of parks
in Seoul that are growing and the government is now even considering
using the banks of Han River into green areas with parks and attractions.
I'm sure Seoul's smog level has decreased big time over the last few years
especially with Cheonggyecheon as well. Another thing might be because
Seoul is located in a valley surrounded by mountains so it's a perfect trap
for smog...just like Mexico City
In many ways, Seoul is much like London except the sand storm but the sand storm is not an excuse for S Korea's neglect on expanding grass land. I am living in Kentucky. Here everywhere you go there is no bare land. I had to keep asking why Koreans can't live like this. For reducing stress level of city living and expanding parks, every corner of Seoul and other places of Korea must be covered with ever green grasses and maintain them. Of course this excludes the farm lands. I hope you can be an advocate of covering Korea with more grass. SK may have some unique climate issues but they are nothing they cannot overcome. When SK does this, more foreign tourists will come to SK. I hope they will listen.
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Old May 22nd, 2009, 02:22 AM   #133
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In many ways, Seoul is much like London except the sand storm but the sand storm is not an excuse for S Korea's neglect on expanding grass land. I am living in Kentucky. Here everywhere you go there is no bare land. I had to keep asking why Koreans can't live like this. For reducing stress level of city living and expanding parks, every corner of Seoul and other places of Korea must be covered with ever green grasses and maintain them. Of course this excludes the farm lands. I hope you can be an advocate of covering Korea with more grass. SK may have some unique climate issues but they are nothing they cannot overcome. When SK does this, more foreign tourists will come to SK. I hope they will listen.
I think you need to know more about South Korea's history first of all. We had to overcome attacks from Japan and the Korean war which almost destroyed the entire country. After the war, many Koreans moved to Seoul for jobs and stuff and at that time, the president focused on public housing (commieblocks that you see) and on developing the country rather than on its aesthetics (parks, trees, grassland, etc) Nowadays, the city government is much more strict on building designs and planning on many parks to increase Seoul's value and increase the happiness factor for Seoul Citizens

You also need to realize that South Korea is a small country not like the USA where land is plenty and resources are plenty as well.
The population, yes More than 10 million people live and 25 million live in the nearby satellite towns whereas the entire population of Kentucky is only 4 million with Louiville metro area (Kentucky's largest city) has only 1.2 million people...which cannot compare to 20 million. Seoul city even beats NYC for populatin density (trust me I live in Midtown New York on 40th street)

For Korea not having that much green grasslands and such, I think you have never been to Seoul or just was near business districts or
just read books from your local Barnes and Noble. Seriously those Lonely Planet books suck big time and are very out-dated so please
don't judge by what you see in those books as they are probably pictures of Korea back in the 90s. You need to check out Seoul Haneul (Sky) Park (lots of greenery), Yeoido Park, Seoul Citizens' Park, Seoul Forest, and many mountains that surround Seoul that helps the greening of Seoul. Compared to other major cities in the world like Tokyo or New York City (the only real park or greenery I think is Central Park) I am fully aware Seoul has lot more trees and parks.

You also need to realize the fact that Seoul is a world-class global city, not a small town like Louisville.
That's like asking New York why their subways are so dirty when it's considered one of the greatest cities
in the world or asking why Louisville doesn't have a subway system.
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I think you need to know more about South Korea's history first of all. We had to overcome attacks from Japan and the Korean war which almost destroyed the entire country. After the war, many Koreans moved to Seoul for jobs and stuff and at that time, the president focused on public housing (commieblocks that you see) and on developing the country rather than on its aesthetics (parks, trees, grassland, etc) Nowadays, the city government is much more strict on building designs and planning on many parks to increase Seoul's value and increase the happiness factor for Seoul Citizens

You also need to realize that South Korea is a small country not like the USA where land is plenty and resources are plenty as well.
The population, yes More than 10 million people live and 25 million live in the nearby satellite towns whereas the entire population of Kentucky is only 4 million with Louiville metro area (Kentucky's largest city) has only 1.2 million people...which cannot compare to 20 million. Seoul city even beats NYC for populatin density (trust me I live in Midtown New York on 40th street)

For Korea not having that much green grasslands and such, I think you have never been to Seoul or just was near business districts or
just read books from your local Barnes and Noble. Seriously those Lonely Planet books suck big time and are very out-dated so please
don't judge by what you see in those books as they are probably pictures of Korea back in the 90s. You need to check out Seoul Haneul (Sky) Park (lots of greenery), Yeoido Park, Seoul Citizens' Park, Seoul Forest, and many mountains that surround Seoul that helps the greening of Seoul. Compared to other major cities in the world like Tokyo or New York City (the only real park or greenery I think is Central Park) I am fully aware Seoul has lot more trees and parks.

You also need to realize the fact that Seoul is a world-class global city, not a small town like Louisville.
That's like asking New York why their subways are so dirty when it's considered one of the greatest cities
in the world or asking why Louisville doesn't have a subway system.
I think I know why Korea can't have what others often take for granted and it is not what you have said here but how many Koreans like yourself perceive things around themselves. I want to hear "Yes, we can".

I have come to believe Koreans lack passion and desire to stylize their living.
For instance, too many commie block apartments. I know it is a game of fast-build-and-sell, but how can their birdcage livings enhance their city living? It seems to me, Seoullites live like caged animals stressed out and irritable and hopeless.

I know Seoul is a big city. That is why it is more important than ever to make Seoul the most attractive city in the world. I believe expanding ever green grassed land is crucial to Seoul in that regard.
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Living in a commie block does not feel like living in a cage. They actually feel quite convenient and relieve the stress. The commieblocks are quiet inside, and because they increase the pop. density, there's no need for a car, public transportation is close, stores are within walking distance etc.
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Living in a commie block does not feel like living in a cage. They actually feel quite convenient and relieve the stress. The commieblocks are quiet inside, and because they increase the pop. density, there's no need for a car, public transportation is close, stores are within walking distance etc.
Look, I lived in one of those cells. I could not take it anymore. I became suicidal. Alright?
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^ What didn't you like? The apartment blocks in Korea feel great. All those that I have seen offered a good to excellent standard of living. They are typically 90m2 to 170m2 in size, have windows at the front and back, the heating system is the heated floor by default, all the walls are made in concrete. I'll move into a new one soon and I'm excited about it.
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^ What didn't you like? The apartment blocks in Korea feel great. All those that I have seen offered a good to excellent standard of living. They are typically 90m2 to 170m2 in size, have windows at the front and back, the heating system is the heated floor by default, all the walls are made in concrete. I'll move into a new one soon and I'm excited about it.
No, they are eye sores and they are detrimental to the overall look of Seoul. Here is my question. If I am to offer my honey our honeymoon destination, would Seoul pop up in my head as one of the most romantic cities in the world? Seoul is big for sure but it lacks a charisma to attract people. Every Korean city must benchmark herself to be such that. For that reason, I highly regard GangNeung the most charismatic city in SK.
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I do not disagree the apartment blocks have poor exterior architecture. It is the main flaw of korean cities. They are functional but somewhat ugly. It's a problem but it's not so important in my opinion. After all, most of the time what you see is street level scenery, like the shops, the girls, the restaurants. And this provides plenty of eye candy .
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No, they are eye sores and they are detrimental to the overall look of Seoul. Here is my question. If I am to offer my honey our honeymoon destination, would Seoul pop up in my head as one of the most romantic cities in the world? Seoul is big for sure but it lacks a charisma to attract people. Every Korean city must benchmark herself to be such that. For that reason, I highly regard GangNeung the most charismatic city in SK.
I appreciate your opinion, but I don't understand what your intention is by bringing this up here. Would you like us to agree with you, and say "you're right, Seoul is a hideously ugly, stressful and depressing city, let's not bother posting pictures anymore"?
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