Cebu Heritage Watch Thread 9

[naruto-kun]

Its sad news to know the destruction of another heritage building.

anyways, Does anybody know the history of Arch. Bishop Reyes Ave. ? I've been searching everywhere for it. The Brgy. Luz & Camputhaw Barangay HALL, the rizal library and the archives seem to have no official history of the avenue. Can anyone help me? Its for my Local History Project...

[archaeologue]

Originally Posted by maayomo

Sir, syaro di pa mabuka iyang mata ani. Pre-WWII nga building with a great facade, nya gihimo lang ug baligyaanan ug pirated nga DVD ug makeshift nga puluy-anan? Tsk, tsk. I hope the owner realizes nga puwede magstart balik ug clean slate ang building, and use it for a more noble purpose.

chinese bya ang tag-iya...unya, inherited ra gyud niya...so wa gyud siya'y concept nga mapahimuslan for heritage---negosyo gyud dayon! paet

[archaeologue]

Originally Posted by naruto-kun

Its sad news to know the destruction of another heritage building.

anyways, Does anybody know the history of Arch. Bishop Reyes Ave. ? I've been searching everywhere for it. The Brgy. Luz & Camputhaw Barangay HALL, the rizal library and the archives seem to have no official history of the avenue. Can anyone help me? Its for my Local History Project...

i think this used to be called the Old Banilad Road..because it traversed the Banilad Friar Lands which were broken up during the American period.

my guess is that this must have started as a carriage road or carabao road during the Spanish period, used for conveying sugar and rice harvested from the Banilad Firar Lands. therefore it would have been unnamed except for its place, thus it woud have been named "dalan sa Banilad", later in the American period, it became "Banilad Road", and then after the war, karaan na man, it became "Old Banilad Road'. speculations ra hinuon ni nako. but that is how the Minoza Street, which now traverses Talamban used to be called ("Old Talamban Road").

Arch. Reyes Avenue is on the main artery within what used to be the Augustinian-owned Banilad Friar Lands (which used to cover both sides of that road, from Ayala Center down to Nasipit, Talamban, if I'm not mistaken).

there is also as section of the Old Banilad Road which was called "Airport Road" and then later, "Old Airport Road" because it was beside the Lahug Airport (Waterfront Hotel down to the Ayala IT Park), which, before 1968, was the main airport of Cebu.

this would explain why there is no former name to Arch. Reyes Avenue---it simply was not named after a person before this.

you should try looking at pre-war Cebu maps. i am sure this road is there alone and lonely and out of nowhere.

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[maayomo]

(Posted this originally sa Cebu City and Province Thread)

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Nakasingit jud ko ganina sayo sa buntag panguha ug photos sa nasunog. Share lang nako.

The entrance to the Orchestra Section


The stairs to the main hall


The orchestra section, all covered in smoke


The ground floor which used to be a den of pirated DVDs. I tried to move deeper into where the supposed origin of the fire is, but the water was knee-deep, and I still had to report for work after.


The building's tenants, smile lang gihapun


The facade, which thankfully survived



Seems like the building rebelled against its present state. I don't intend to offend the residents and tenants of the building, but "mirisi" sa mga owners.

[archaeologue]

wa ka mahadlok? murag asbestos-laden ra ba tingali ni iya ceiling, typical sa 1950s to 60s nga renovation sa movie houses.

but if the ceiling got burned, then i'm sure dili na asbestos.

thanks for these photos.

just as i thought, the building will survive as it did when Colon (and most of downtown Cebu) was set on fire by local authorities when it was clear that the Japanese would invade in April 1942:


Here is a small view of Vision theater after the WW II conflgration. Only Vision theater (shown here near the center of this photo) and the facade of Lyric theater (at the corner of Junquera) remain standing on Colon Street.





it survived that fire, it will survive this latest one.

[maayomo]

ngee, mao ba, Sir @archaeologue? ako gikahadlokan ganina kay holdup, kay mga 7am man ko adto, nya abi nako mingaw pa ba, madiskwido nya ang dslr. hehe. : )

but anyways, sir, i think nag-collapse ang ceiling niya. naklaro pa hinuon nako ang atup mismo when i got to the main hall. naa nay mga buslot-buslot ang atup. dramatic gani kaayo, naay tiny shafts of light nag-filter down, or imagination lang ba kaha to nako. hehe.

sir, kanang last line sa imong post ba, nakakataba ng puso jud. : )

[archaeologue]

Originally Posted by maayomo

ngee, mao ba, Sir? ako gikahadlokan ganina kay holdup, kay mga 7am man ko adto, nya abi nako mingaw pa ba, madiskwido nya ang dslr. hehe. : )

but anyways, sir, i think nag-collapse ang ceiling niya. naklaro pa hinuon nako ang atup mismo when i got to the main hall. naa nay mga buslot-buslot ang atup. thanks for the info anyway, Sir. : )

aw, ok...you were lucky this time.

in conservation work, risk management due to fire is important.

the first thing to determine is whether the structure underwent renovation, and if so, what were added. in the case of a moviehouse like Vision Theater, there used to be so much asbestos on movie houses man gud as a fire prevention measure in the 1930s to 70s---or until when it was discovered that asbestos was directly linked to lung cancer.

maybe gimahalan ang mga insik nga mga tag-iya so wa sila mobutang, or they followed regulations to remove the asbestos in the 1990s.

[maayomo]

Originally Posted by archaeologue

aw, ok...you were lucky this time.

in conservation work, risk management due to fire is important.

the first thing to determine is whether the structure underwent renovation, and if so, what were added. in the case of a moviehouse like Vision Theater, there used to be so much asbestos on movie houses man gud as a fire prevention measure in the 1930s to 70s---or until when it was discovered that asbestos was directly linked to lung cancer.

maybe gimahalan ang mga insik nga mga tag-iya so wa sila mobutang, or they followed regulations to remove the asbestos in the 1990s.

hehehehe. free lesson in conservation work ni Sir, da. important lesson pa jud. daghang salamat. i'll be more careful next time. : )

funny lagi ni imong tongue-in-cheek comments about sa mga, uhm...hehe. ikatawa nalang ta ni. haha. : )

[Ang Karaang Tawo]

Originally Posted by LordCarnal

Nasunog ang VISION THEATER.

At the risk of revealing my age to the whole heritage community, I still would like to share memories of Vision Theatre. When I was in college in the late 60's, I'd save up to watch movies in Colon. It was such a short walk( everybody walked) from USC down Pelaez St. to go to Vision Theatre. We'd always go to Vision because it showed the best American movies then. If we had some money left we'd cross Pelaez and go further after the movie house in the corner. The first Sunburst opened there and it was where one can get real brewed coffee for one peso.

Across Sunburst was the old Majestic Restaurant where one could get a bonafide "Comida China"! That was the treat of all treats for a college student on a severe budget.

In the corner of Pelaez across the street was another moviehouse, the Oriente. It's wide staircase leading to the balcony looked so grand. To the right of Oriente was the UMERCO, the swankiest department store then. Even White Gold was a probinsyano beside UMERCO or United Merchants which was owned by the Mercados.

But between Vision Theatre and Oriente, my favorite was Vision Theatre. The facade always mesmerized me. It was then a safe place. Colon was a safe place to shop in and eat in during the tail end of the sixties.

[bukid]

when you mentioned sunburst, i remembered spanky's. it is also somewhere near vision theatre, i wonder where is it now?

[archaeologue]

Originally Posted by maayomo

hehehehe. free lesson in conservation work ni Sir, da. important lesson pa jud. daghang salamat. i'll be more careful next time. : )

funny lagi ni imong tongue-in-cheek comments about sa mga, uhm...hehe. ikatawa nalang ta ni. haha. : )

ur welcome....


as to the insik, i kind of live in that world most of the time... and i studied in a chinese school. all my nephews and nieces are studying or have studied at sacred heart, my brothers and my only sister are married also to chinese men or women, as the case may be.

and i love everything chinese except ang pagkakuripot sa ako mga paryenteng intsik....

[maayomo]

Originally Posted by bukid

when you mentioned sunburst, i remembered spanky's. it is also somewhere near vision theatre, i wonder where is it now?

Spanky's fried chicken? Bitaw, asa na kaha ni intawn. Atbang ni siya before sa Pete's Kitchen, di ba? Lami-a ato uy. My gramps who had his law office at the Macaraya Building (beside Gaw) would always bring me home a couple of pieces. And I also remember katong time nga daghan pa kaayo ug mangaon sa Pete's Kitchen, as in maglinya jud. Well, things change...

Originally Posted by archaeologue

ur welcome....


as to the insik, i kind of live in that world most of the time... and i studied in a chinese school. all my nephews and nieces are studying or have studied at sacred heart, my brothers and my only sister are married also to chinese men or women, as the case may be.

and i love everything chinese except ang pagkakuripot sa ako mga paryenteng intsik....

ay, mao diay Sir. hehehe. in a way, loveable man ni ilang pagkakuripot, or at least ang stereotyped image of a kuripot chinese, but maayo sad pud unta if mugasto sila when and where it matters most, not only sa business. : )

[Ang Karaang Tawo]

Originally Posted by maayomo

Spanky's fried chicken? Bitaw, asa na kaha ni intawn. Atbang ni siya before sa Pete's Kitchen, di ba? Lami-a ato uy. My gramps who had his law office at the Macaraya Building (beside Gaw) would always bring me home a couple of pieces. And I also remember katong time nga daghan pa kaayo ug mangaon sa Pete's Kitchen, as in maglinya jud. Well, things change...




ay, mao diay Sir. hehehe. in a way, loveable man ni ilang pagkakuripot, or at least ang stereotyped image of a kuripot chinese, but maayo sad pud unta if mugasto sila when and where it matters most, not only sa business. : )

Some of them get enlightened , take the case of the owners of Hotong Hardware. They have transferred their stock from the bodega in Zulueta to their reclamation bodega. Now the Jesuit House entombed in that huge bodega is being cleaned and they have even opened the place to visitors now.

This is something to be g;ad, nay, ecstatic about! Another heritage site exposed for the public to appreciate.

There is hope, Maayomo! Or at least we could appreciate the crumbs given. . .

[maayomo]

Originally Posted by Ang Karaang Tawo

Some of them get enlightened , take the case of the owners of Hotong Hardware. They have transferred their stock from the bodega in Zulueta to their reclamation bodega. Now the Jesuit House entombed in that huge bodega is being cleaned and they have even opened the place to visitors now.

This is something to be g;ad, nay, ecstatic about! Another heritage site exposed for the public to appreciate.

There is hope, Maayomo! Or at least we could appreciate the crumbs given. . .

Ay, open na jud diay, as in? I thought man gud nga by appointment lang usa ang pagvisit sa Jesuit house, although I read somewhere that they were planning to eventually turn it into some sort of museum. Pero, very good news kaayo ni, Ma'am. : )

I'm sure all of us are also hoping that the Yulo family will do the same for their, uhm, 200 million-peso building. Kay naabtan nalang ug kasunog ilang building, maski crumbs wala juy nahatag. Gipintalan hinuon ug yellow ang ubos. Maayo gani wala mahurot kasunog, or else, abo nalang juy ato. Hehe. : )

[naruto-kun]

Originally Posted by archaeologue

i think this used to be called the Old Banilad Road..because it traversed the Banilad Friar Lands which were broken up during the American period.

my guess is that this must have started as a carriage road or carabao road during the Spanish period, used for conveying sugar and rice harvested from the Banilad Firar Lands. therefore it would have been unnamed except for its place, thus it woud have been named "dalan sa Banilad", later in the American period, it became "Banilad Road", and then after the war, karaan na man, it became "Old Banilad Road'. speculations ra hinuon ni nako. but that is how the Minoza Street, which now traverses Talamban used to be called ("Old Talamban Road").

Arch. Reyes Avenue is on the main artery within what used to be the Augustinian-owned Banilad Friar Lands (which used to cover both sides of that road, from Ayala Center down to Nasipit, Talamban, if I'm not mistaken).

there is also as section of the Old Banilad Road which was called "Airport Road" and then later, "Old Airport Road" because it was beside the Lahug Airport (Waterfront Hotel down to the Ayala IT Park), which, before 1968, was the main airport of Cebu.

this would explain why there is no former name to Arch. Reyes Avenue---it simply was not named after a person before this.

you should try looking at pre-war Cebu maps. i am sure this road is there alone and lonely and out of nowhere.

thanks archaeologue , at least, i have a history to write on...

[josephbrain]

hi guys, im a lil bit new here..

im now a 5th year architecture student at usc. and im planning to revive colon street as my thesis proposal for this semester.
actually its entitled " revitalization of the oldest street in cebu city"

we are focusing on the physical redevelopment addressing the social and economic activity..

so i need some brief history and and some old pictures of colon..
right now were trying to contact some employee from city hall..

if anyone has the latest redevelopment for colon, just post it here..hehe

thank you and god bless!

contact me: josephbrain_000@yahoo.com

[archaeologue]

i should have said "a lonely road going nowhere" like this one below. taken sometime in 1915, it looks intriguing like the road to Banilad.


(From the Pedro River-Mir collection now owned by Enrico Rubio of Bantayan)


No mountains in the horizon to indicate Lahug, and none on the sides either (to indicate the old South Road going to Talisay). Maybe this is the corner where LBC Bank and Asilo dela Milagrosa Church are right now! who knows? hahah

My honest guess is that this must be Arch. Reyes, then called Banilad Road in 1915 because along with this photo are four others, all roads (F. Ramos street, with only one house; Fuente Osmena with just Don Sergio's house on the side; and Mango Avenue with the old Ludo House)...I can't show them here without permission, though.

[sanvalente]

Originally Posted by maayomo

Ay, open na jud diay, as in? I thought man gud nga by appointment lang usa ang pagvisit sa Jesuit house, although I read somewhere that they were planning to eventually turn it into some sort of museum. Pero, very good news kaayo ni, Ma'am. : )

bilib sad ko nimo, maayomo, how come nag "ma'am" ka ni karaang tawo? kaila
na tingali mo daan no? abi nako "sir" ni si karaang tawo he he he

bitaw, it's unfortunate nasunog ang vision theater .... karaang tawo reminded
me too when i was in college at usc.. . bugnaw ang aircon para mag date...

i remember my father told me that it has the best acoustic design kuno and i guess it's true during my time in college kay wa pay laing sinihan besides sa colon area...

reminiscing those days makes me feel young tho...

[sanvalente]

Originally Posted by archaeologue

i should have said "a lonely road going nowhere" like this one below. taken sometime in 1915, it looks intriguing like the road to Banilad.

.....


No mountains in the horizon to indicate Lahug, and none on the sides either (to indicate the old South Road going to Talisay). Maybe this is the corner where LBC Bank and Asilo dela Milagrosa Church are right now! who knows? hahah

My honest guess is that this must be Arch. Reyes, then called Banilad Road in 1915 because along with this photo are four others, all roads (F. Ramos street, with only one house; Fuente Osmena with just Don Sergio's house on the side; and Mango Avenue with the old Ludo House)...I can't show them here without permission, though.

Beautiful pic! indeed circa 1915 (+/-) (model T?) considering the spoked wheel of the car ... pa tan-awa unya mi sa other photos you mentioned ha...

am curious kinsa tong mga tag-iya sa mga sakyanan kaniadtong panahuna
like this one...