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Bigmac1212 · September 11th, 2009, 10:09 PM

Brooklyn Nets

Some new renderings were introduced for the proposed new home of the New Jersey/Brooklyn Nets.

Official Arena Site

(Sorry, I can't post flash images.)

Interesitng design.

Luke80 · September 12th, 2009, 02:57 AM

Any pictures/renderings of the bowl?

That site didn't seem to have any. Who cares what the luxury suites won't end up looking like?!

KingmanIII · September 12th, 2009, 03:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Luke80

Any pictures/renderings of the bowl?

That site didn't seem to have any. Who cares what the luxury suites won't end up looking like?!

You're right, this thing was supposed to be completed -- as of five years ago.

Ratner will never get this thing built. The Nets should just move to Newark.

Luke80 · September 12th, 2009, 03:03 AM

As per usual, sport taking a back seat to money and politics I presume...

Benn · September 12th, 2009, 03:45 AM

Mostly the credit crunch, Forrest City Ratner who was paying for the development couldn't get the finances in order for Gehry's $900 million arena plus the surrounding towers, so he was fired and they brought in Ellerbe Becket.

On all accounts that I've heard the seating bowl is basically the Conseco Fieldhouse with slight alterations, just the the fancy perforated CorTen wrapper that Shop Architects came up with.

ryebreadraz · September 12th, 2009, 04:01 AM

If it's essentially the same seating bowl as Conseco then great. Conseco has the best seating bowl and design of any arena I've ever been in.

Benn · September 12th, 2009, 09:56 AM

I liked Gehry's much better. Nothing wrong with conseco, but there are better ones out there. The Gehry design had overhang to the upper level, the suites were more discrete, the bowl elegantly balanced to the sidelines, and rehashing a design is just lazy.

Luke80 · September 12th, 2009, 12:24 PM

The Conseco bowl is good for basketball, but it would be awful for hockey because of those diagonal corners. Legroom in the first row would be so varied.

Having now seen the bowl from Gehry's original design, I think it's awful. Way too many large gaps where things have to join nastily. Yes the top tier is flashy, but this isn't really much point to it.

Ganis · September 12th, 2009, 10:06 PM

Crazy looking arena

BoulderGrad · September 14th, 2009, 08:31 AM

As I understand it, this isnt including any facilities for hockey? Its a shame. The Islanders might actually get someone to watch them if they actually had an arena in NYC.

KingmanIII · September 15th, 2009, 12:18 AM

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Originally Posted by BoulderGrad

As I understand it, this isnt including any facilities for hockey? Its a shame. The Islanders might actually get someone to watch them if they actually had an arena in NYC.

They're planning to upgrade Nassau and build a retail and entertainment district around it.

Ganis · September 15th, 2009, 04:16 AM

would that be an Arena with a glass roof?

***Kenni*** · September 16th, 2009, 01:26 AM

I find that hard to do, since it snows up there.

The Game Is Up · December 24th, 2009, 03:39 AM

This project looks to be very close to getting started. Read on:
http://cityroom.blogs.nytimes.com/20...s-moves-ahead/

I'll say...you have to be a really big-time real estate mogul with gonads of steel (or a mega-bucks plan) to withstand a labyrinth of legal, political and economic challenges to start up a project in a big urban center in one of more litigious societies in the universe. Anyone else would have quit eons ago.

Didier-Dro · December 24th, 2009, 04:03 AM

he nets better hope they get lebron next year cuz after setting the nba record most lost before a win in nba history, its wont be fair if a sucky team move to this landmark arena

krudmonk · December 27th, 2009, 04:21 AM

What a waste to build two arenas for the Nets and Isles when one would do.

KingmanIII · December 27th, 2009, 06:40 PM

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Originally Posted by krudmonk

What a waste to build two arenas for the Nets and Isles when one would do.

Islanders are likely moving -- no way in hell the Lighthouse project gets done now.

krudmonk · December 27th, 2009, 08:16 PM

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Originally Posted by KingmanIII

Islanders are likely moving -- no way in hell the Lighthouse project gets done now.

Exactly, they should both be doing this Brooklyn arena. I'm sure some power struggle and projected revenue streams are getting in the way of common sense, though.

Ganis · December 27th, 2009, 11:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Didier-Dro

he nets better hope they get lebron next year cuz after setting the nba record most lost before a win in nba history, its wont be fair if a sucky team move to this landmark arena

If Lebron truly wants to win a championship he will avoid New York all together.

nyrmetros · December 28th, 2009, 03:51 AM

I read that the Brooklyn Arena designer has altered the arena to include a NHL sized rink. any word on that?

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September 12th, 2009, 02:57 AM	#2
Luke80 Registered User Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Surrey, UK Posts: 779 Likes (Received): 0	Any pictures/renderings of the bowl? That site didn't seem to have any. Who cares what the luxury suites won't end up looking like?!

September 12th, 2009, 03:03 AM	#4
Luke80 Registered User Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Surrey, UK Posts: 779 Likes (Received): 0	As per usual, sport taking a back seat to money and politics I presume...

September 12th, 2009, 03:45 AM	#5
Benn Registered User Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Minneapolis Posts: 1,422 Likes (Received): 7	Mostly the credit crunch, Forrest City Ratner who was paying for the development couldn't get the finances in order for Gehry's $900 million arena plus the surrounding towers, so he was fired and they brought in Ellerbe Becket. On all accounts that I've heard the seating bowl is basically the Conseco Fieldhouse with slight alterations, just the the fancy perforated CorTen wrapper that Shop Architects came up with.

September 12th, 2009, 04:01 AM	#6
ryebreadraz Registered User Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 1,584 Likes (Received): 1	If it's essentially the same seating bowl as Conseco then great. Conseco has the best seating bowl and design of any arena I've ever been in.

September 12th, 2009, 09:56 AM	#7
Benn Registered User Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Minneapolis Posts: 1,422 Likes (Received): 7	I liked Gehry's much better. Nothing wrong with conseco, but there are better ones out there. The Gehry design had overhang to the upper level, the suites were more discrete, the bowl elegantly balanced to the sidelines, and rehashing a design is just lazy.

September 12th, 2009, 12:24 PM	#8
Luke80 Registered User Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Surrey, UK Posts: 779 Likes (Received): 0	The Conseco bowl is good for basketball, but it would be awful for hockey because of those diagonal corners. Legroom in the first row would be so varied. Having now seen the bowl from Gehry's original design, I think it's awful. Way too many large gaps where things have to join nastily. Yes the top tier is flashy, but this isn't really much point to it.

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Ganis BANNED Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Dallas / Amarillo Posts: 1,783 Likes (Received): 0	Crazy looking arena

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nyrmetros Registered User Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 1,233 Likes (Received): 0	I read that the Brooklyn Arena designer has altered the arena to include a NHL sized rink. any word on that?