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Old October 14th, 2009, 05:07 PM   #41
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Hiroshima et Nagasaki ont déposé une candidature commune pour 2020 également
Thats should be a strong competitor for Rabat 2020
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Old October 14th, 2009, 06:10 PM   #42
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Well it might have escaped your attention but but the games are for "2020" not 2010...

Plus Morocco does not have a "40% illitarcy rate", ur sources are clearly out of date the 2008 statistics place us at 23.5 %, not to menchen that illitarcy will be a thing of the past in 2020 along with others issues.

Another issue u rasied is the so called "Transport issue".
Hello, have you been living under a rock?
Morocco has a very highly advanced transport system unmatched by any African or Arab country, not only that but Morocco is se to be the first Arab and African Country to have a high speed train service. And by 2020 Morocco's transport infestructure will be on par with most 1st world countries.

Another one of ur issues is the "freedom of press" which I agree could be better but still is very free for african standards and again in 2020 who noes....

And lastly this "freedom of movement" crap
Moroccans are free to leave or visit any place at any time. (Givin they have the correct documents when travaling to another country)
I have never heard of this issue (becuase u probably made it up along with the other 'shaky' statments you made)

Are you sure ur not Algerian.... LMAOOO
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And you!

what do u think this is??

you sound like an uneducated old man sitting in a coffee shop, just shutup!
Yeah, well at least I can spell mate.
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Old October 14th, 2009, 07:37 PM   #43
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Oh God this thread is gone wild

I just wanna say some few things but please don't call me a stupid or ask me to shut up because I have the right to express my point of view.

Let's take the example of Beijing 2008 (China's GDP is 4,327,448 against Morocco's GDP 88,879 Million USD ). For sure the Olympics were a success but the infrastructures were not used after. For instance the stadium was used once after the Olympics. Now the stadium will be turned into a shopping mall. the long term economic impacts is still unclear. Some sectors may have benefited but it is generally expected by economists that there will be no lasting effects on the city's economy due to the games. (http://www.economist.com/world/asia/...ry_id=11920899)

Another example is Vancouver, BC. The city will be hosting the 2010 winter Olympics soon, a much smaller event compared to the summer. Even if Vancouver is one of the most developed city in the world and it already has the majority of the venues ready for the event. there was a huge polemic around it. People were not fully satisfied by hosting the Olympics in their city because they will be paying for it ( Taxpayers ) for years after. For sure the economy will profit from it to a certain degree but citizens thinks the money should be spent on other things such as improving school districts, better transportation, and more community centres.

So for people that are saying that Morocco will be ready for the 2020 summer Olympics, they might be right on a way that it can host the event. But I'm not ready to pay for it just to amaze western countries the same way China did. I'm not sure either if we will be ready, I think it's better for us to spend that money on education ( By that not just teaching people how to read and write but also hoe to use modern technology and reach at least a bachelor degree), infrastructure ( I'm against Morocco having a TGV right now because we really don't need it and the money could be spent in a better way ),Improving sport condition and the fight against poverty in our country.

This what I think. You don't have to attack me if you don't agree and I respect all the ideas from other people.
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Old October 14th, 2009, 09:31 PM   #44
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And you!

what do u think this is??

you sound like an uneducated old man sitting in a coffee shop, just shutup!
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Old October 15th, 2009, 05:14 AM   #45
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LOL

And who are you? some unknown wannabe??

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Old October 15th, 2009, 05:22 AM   #46
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Rabat should not apply to host the 2020 Olympic Games. Why couldn't that have been Casablanca vieing to host the Games? Casablanca has an existing stadium and a proposed Grand Stadium.
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Old October 15th, 2009, 05:27 AM   #47
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Yeah, well at least I can spell mate.
Your a loser... it's a forum!!

There called typos... But I fixed them up for you, just in case your unable to understand how to read main stream English



btw (very sad attempt of a comback) lol
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Old October 16th, 2009, 01:45 PM   #48
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Your a loser... it's a forum!!

There called typos... But I fixed them up for you, just in case your unable to understand how to read main stream English



btw (very sad attempt of a comback) lol
pff siiiiiir, still full of mistakes. listen, you want to argue like an adult, then grow some balls and stop acting like a 13 year old who just discovered the joys of pms.
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Old October 17th, 2009, 01:56 PM   #49
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pff siiiiiir, still full of mistakes. listen, you want to argue like an adult, then grow some balls and stop acting like a 13 year old who just discovered the joys of pms.
LMAOOO

The funny thing is, theres absolutely nothing you can do about it so Suffer you RE-TARD!!!
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Old October 17th, 2009, 03:04 PM   #50
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Reda, where are u, when you're really needed.. Because I think we have a Retard-ALERT here.
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Old October 17th, 2009, 03:34 PM   #51
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Its complete nonsens what you are producing here...we re trying to discuss about a topic but you two are dissing around
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Old October 18th, 2009, 01:31 AM   #52
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Its complete nonsens what you are producing here...we re trying to discuss about a topic but you two are dissing around
I second that...
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Old October 18th, 2009, 01:33 AM   #53
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Yeah, here I am sggesting that Casablanca should bid for 2020 Games instead of Rabat and you two just ignore it. Casablanca is a better city than Rabat and Rabat just can not apply to host the Olympics, its just too inexperienced, does not have any sports facilities other than that Moulay Abdellah Stadium, and it has never hosted any major sporting events. Tell me why Casablanca should not apply for Olympic Games. Casablanca is a larger city and has bigger stadiums than Rabat.
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Old October 18th, 2009, 05:17 AM   #54
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Yeah, here I am sggesting that Casablanca should bid for 2020 Games instead of Rabat and you two just ignore it. Casablanca is a better city than Rabat and Rabat just can not apply to host the Olympics, its just too inexperienced, does not have any sports facilities other than that Moulay Abdellah Stadium, and it has never hosted any major sporting events. Tell me why Casablanca should not apply for Olympic Games. Casablanca is a larger city and has bigger stadiums than Rabat.
Look Casablanca has MASSIVE poverty problems, extreamly poor transport infrustructue, its far to industrial and its not capable of over comming these issues in the next 10 years. Rabat however has far more managable issues, and its the perfect opertunity to give Rabat an international image because lets face it not many people have ever heard of Rabat.

I would love to see Casablanca host the games, it has a good international image, its well known and its the largest city like you said, its just this poverty problem that is a huge hurdle.
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Old October 18th, 2009, 08:40 AM   #55
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I don't are about giving Rabat an international image because I am opposed to this proposal. There is zero chance that Rabat will host the Olympics, so Rabat has to pull out of the contest before the applicant stage.

And Casablanca does have many slums, but there is a program to eradicate them in the city (and the rest of Morocco and Rabat is part of the program) and that means the city's poverty rate may decrease soon. It's called the Cities Without Slums program and there is a thread about that issue.
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Old October 18th, 2009, 10:44 AM   #56
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no chance for rabat or for an other Moroccan city ,just to be honest with ourselves
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Old October 18th, 2009, 01:20 PM   #57
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I don't are about giving Rabat an international image because I am opposed to this proposal. There is zero chance that Rabat will host the Olympics, so Rabat has to pull out of the contest before the applicant stage.

And Casablanca does have many slums, but there is a program to eradicate them in the city (and the rest of Morocco and Rabat is part of the program) and that means the city's poverty rate may decrease soon. It's called the Cities Without Slums program and there is a thread about that issue.
No need to educate me on any Moroccan programes or projects, im well informed thank you.


Anyway, I supose you have your views and I have mine, soo lets agree to disagree
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Old October 18th, 2009, 02:09 PM   #58
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Yeah, here I am sggesting that Casablanca should bid for 2020 Games instead of Rabat and you two just ignore it. Casablanca is a better city than Rabat and Rabat just can not apply to host the Olympics, its just too inexperienced, does not have any sports facilities other than that Moulay Abdellah Stadium, and it has never hosted any major sporting events. Tell me why Casablanca should not apply for Olympic Games. Casablanca is a larger city and has bigger stadiums than Rabat.
Totally agreed. Casablanca is more famous, has so many ongoing giant projects, has towers, looks modern, big city and likeable. Rabat is just the capital, nothing else. The poverty should not be a major problem, ten years would not be short if the government, communes and associations decide to take things seriously, few years would suffice. The transport reform is very doable, the tram project is UC, but the traffic jam remains a big turnoff, so many solutions should be considered; e.g : Metro, bridges, tunnels, etc.

If Morocco wants to bid for OG, it must be Casablanca, or maybe Tangiers, but definitely not Rabat. That was my opinion
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Old October 18th, 2009, 04:31 PM   #59
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Yeah, here I am sggesting that Casablanca should bid for 2020 Games instead of Rabat and you two just ignore it. Casablanca is a better city than Rabat and Rabat just can not apply to host the Olympics, its just too inexperienced, does not have any sports facilities other than that Moulay Abdellah Stadium, and it has never hosted any major sporting events. Tell me why Casablanca should not apply for Olympic Games. Casablanca is a larger city and has bigger stadiums than Rabat.
To be honest, neither city has the kind of infrastructure needed for the OG. That being said, Casablanca is definately the more famous city, however, Rabat does have the more ambitious infrastructure re-structuring projects at the current time. (relative to its size).
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Old October 19th, 2009, 03:09 AM   #60
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To Tomb Raider: Tanger can't host the OG's either. Casablanca already hosted the Mediterranean Games in 1983 even though it is not on the Mediterranean Sea but on the Atlantic Ocean. But there's one hurdle Casablanca will have to go throgh: Hosting the ALL-AFRICA GAMES sometime in the future.
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