Baseball Venues

[nomarandlee]

Originally Posted by ReiAyanami

Your funny retarded comments, inability to even answer basic criticism with coherent statements and pictures that do anything but help your image, is all I wanted to know. Debating with Americans is very easy, especially for proving your points. Yes, stadiums in here are among the very worst a sporting culture can ever produce and you did everything you could to prove it

Will you name me the public transit that a new Dodger stadium was supposed to be built on near downtown LA in 1959? If not then buzz off with your sophmoric troll slop and head back to the Finn forums.

[Billpa]

Originally Posted by mrakbaseball

Dodger Stadium used to have a lot of foul territory before the box seating was installed several years ago. I miss seeing the guy with the radar gun behind home plate on television.

This guy I believe:

[Bobby3]

The 'stache and the hat. What a big time pimp.

[KingmanIII]

Originally Posted by ReiAyanami

Your funny retarded comments, inability to even answer basic criticism with coherent statements and pictures that do anything but help your image, is all I wanted to know. Debating with Americans is very easy, especially for proving your points. Yes, stadiums in here are among the very worst a sporting culture can ever produce and you did everything you could to prove it

I refuted you three pages ago, yet you continually ignore my posts.

[isaidso]

This thread is about baseball, not the United States.

[isaidso]

Originally Posted by mrakbaseball

Safeco Field in Seattle, is the most dependable and reliable ballpark in baseball. It's the only outdoor ballpark that guarantees no rain-delays and postponements. If you purchase a ticket 2 or 3 months in advance, you know that game will be played.on-time and without delay to completion. It's the only outdoor ballpark that can say that.


from mrakbaseball (Flickr)

That's not even close to being true. Skydome (aka Rogers Centre) in Toronto was the first stadium with a fully retractable roof. Last time I checked, Skydome was still standing.

Skydome, Toronto

[rantanamo]

Skydome is indoors when its closed. Safeco is not, it just has a roof, but the stadium does not enclose. There are no windows in the outfield, just open air.

[I_live_cement]

Originally Posted by isaidso

That's not even close to being true. Skydome (aka Rogers Centre) in Toronto was the first stadium with a fully retractable roof. Last time I checked, Skydome was still standing.

Skydome, Toronto

"Outdoor" being the operative word.

And, depending on how you define "stadium", Rogers centre wasn't even the first with a retractable roof, Mellon Arena in Pittsburgh was.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mellon_Arena

Edit: Well, actually, you did say "fully retractable" so just ignore my last point.

[mrakbaseball]

Originally Posted by isaidso

That's not even close to being true. Skydome (aka Rogers Centre) in Toronto was the first stadium with a fully retractable roof. Last time I checked, Skydome was still standing.

I said outdoor ballpark. Safeco is an outdoor ballpark even when the roof is "extended", Rogers Centre is an indoor facility when its roof is closed.

[mrakbaseball]

Chavez Ravine: What's not to love?

from kla4067

[Kenni]

Originally Posted by mrakbaseball

photo by ????

Dodger Stadium used to have a lot of foul territory before the box seating was installed several years ago. I miss seeing the guy with the radar gun behind home plate on television.

Photo's are signed.

Originally Posted by Billpa

This guy I believe:

Yeah, he was a staple of the game back then Even after the reduction of alot of the foul territory, it is still one of the roomiest around.

[mrakbaseball]

Originally Posted by Kenni

Even after the reduction of alot of the foul territory, it is still one of the roomiest around.

Are you talking about the foul territory? It's night and day compared to what it was. It's pretty small right now. Back in the day it was pretty expansive, certainly not in Oakland's league, but a pretty fair amount to be sure.

[Billpa]

Originally Posted by mrakbaseball

Chavez Ravine: What's not to love?from kla4067

What's not to love?
That bloody parking lot!

I like everything else about that picture, however.

[mrakbaseball]

Something that I've noticed here in this particular thread was the lack of discussion regarding New Yankee Stadium, Citi Field and Shea Stadium. That is very good IMO.

[isaidso]

Originally Posted by mrakbaseball

I said outdoor ballpark. Safeco is an outdoor ballpark even when the roof is "extended", Rogers Centre is an indoor facility when its roof is closed.

How can Safeco possibly be considered an outdoor stadium when the roof is closed? Even if you do make that bizarre classification, it's ridiculous to claim at the same time that it has an advantage over all other baseball stadia on the planet because it's covered. It's open air and it's covered? Having a roof affects reliability and dependability, open air has no bearing on that.

It's like Skydome claiming it that it's the most dependable and reliable ballpark in baseball. because it's the only ballpark that guarantees no rain-delays and postponements with a circular sliding roof segment.

You're using some irrelevant quality to dependability and reliability.

[mrakbaseball]

A view of Chavez Ravine. You can also see the Staples Center at the top of the photo.


from kla4067

Only in SoCal can you have a suburban style ballpark so close to a downtown area.

[mrakbaseball]

Originally Posted by isaidso

How can Safeco possibly be considered an outdoor stadium when the roof is closed? Even if you do make that bizarre classification, it's ridiculous to claim at the same time that it has an advantage over all other baseball stadia on the planet because it's covered. It's open air and it's covered? Having a roof affects reliability and dependability, open air has no bearing on that.

It's like Skydome claiming it that it's the most dependable and reliable ballpark in baseball. because it's the only ballpark that guarantees no rain-delays and postponements with a circular sliding roof segment.

You're using some irrelevant quality to dependability and reliability.

Safeco is an outdoor ballpark. I made the analogy comparing Safeco with a giant umbrella and carports. It's not like being inside a house with the windows open.

Being open air certainly has bearing on dependability. If you're rained out, that's it. If you planned on attending a game that day, you're out of luck.

You mentioned SkyDome again, but Skydome isn't an outdoor stadium with the roof closed. We've already been through that.

[xzmattzx]

I guess you're correct, on a technicality at least.

You're not correct that there is a guarantee that there won't be a rain delay, though. Safeco Field has already had at least one rain delay:

Safeco Field's roof wouldn't close during a thunderstorm one afternoon, forcing a 51-minute rain delay.

http://www.seattlepi.com/baseball/mmts03.shtml

[Seattlelife]

Originally Posted by mrakbaseball

Safeco Field in Seattle, is the most dependable and reliable ballpark in baseball. It's the only outdoor ballpark that guarantees no rain-delays and postponements. If you purchase a ticket 2 or 3 months in advance, you know that game will be played.on-time and without delay to completion. It's the only outdoor ballpark that can say that.

There was no reason to build that roof. Seattle is one of the driest baseball cities during baseball season. It cost 550 million dollars for a roof used once a season? Give me a break. I really don't like how the roof looks when it's open too. It's like a giant monolith towering over right field. It just seems unbalanced from a design perspective. On top of all that Safeco is just kind of bland on the inside. It's only unique feature is the roof. As a Mariners fan I have to say I'm not a Safeco Field fan.

[Seattlelife]

Oh and mrak, what about the stadiums in Toronto, Milwaukee, Houston and Phoenix? They all have retractable roofs. Are you talking about how Safeco is still open to the elements on the sides?

EDIT: Looking back I see that's exactly what you mean.