Jornal do Kansas publica: "Embraer ganhando das nossas indústrias de aeronaves"

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Embraer gaining on local planemakers

BY MOLLY MCMILLIN
The Wichita Eagle


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Embraer test pilots land a Phenom 100 at Embraer's second site 230 miles away from SAO JOSE dos CAMPOS.


As Wichita planemakers grapple with the downturn in the business jet market, they're keeping a keen eye on the competition.

One of the biggest threats to Wichita's business jet industry is 7,600 miles away.

That's where Brazil-based Embraer — long a maker of regional and military jets in a colorful country known for samba, sugar cane and soccer — has entered the market in a big way.

Embraer is coming directly after Wichita's part of the market, experts say.

Over the next 10 years, Embraer could take as much as 15 to 20 percent of the market away from Cessna Aircraft, Hawker Beechcraft and Bombardier Learjet, said Teal Group analyst Richard Aboulafia.

"I'm very concerned about them," Hawker Beechcraft CEO Bill Boisture said. "They're entering with price points, size and performance carefully selected, in my view."

Two weeks ago at the National Business Aviation Association's annual convention in Orlando, Embraer announced its seventh business jet, the Legacy 650, a large, long-range $29.5 million aircraft. It's the sixth business jet Embraer has introduced in the past four years.

A few years ago, Embraer wasn't on the radar screen.

The company, based in Sao Jose dos Campos — a city of 600,000 in southeast Brazil —announced in 2005 its intention to become a major player in the business jet market by 2015.

"That's still the goal," Luis Carlos Affonso, Embraer executive vice president for executive jets, said during an interview at the company's exhibit at NBAA.
Like Wichita's planemakers, Embraer has felt the impact from the economic downturn. That hasn't stopped its plans.

"We will grow slower than we thought we would," Affonso said. "The big picture is unchanged."

Embraer has Wichita's attention.

"They are going to continue to be a real thorn in our side," Cessna CEO and president Jack Pelton said. "They're not going away."

Embraer has an aggressive, smart product development strategy, Aboulafia said. Coupled with its low pricing, the company is a formidable competitor.

Overcoming barriers

In past years, Wichita planemakers studied one another, Gulfstream, Dassault and a handful of other companies.

The competitive balance was pretty well fixed.

Traditionally, the barriers to enter the business jet industry have been high. It's a highly regulated, expensive and difficult market to penetrate.

Since 1960, only one new company has entered the market in a meaningful way.

"And it's Embraer," Aboulafia said. "These guys mean it."

One of Brazil's largest exporters and a top employer, it's a proven jetmaker backed by sizable resources and facilities. Unlike startup companies, it didn't have to search for investors with millions to invest to get into the business jet industry.

And it knows how to design, produce, certify and deliver aircraft.

Embraer's niche is in aircraft designed for high utilization.

"We know how to do that," Affonso said.

Embraer's turnaround

Sao Jose dos Campos is 65 miles from Sao Paulo, Brazil's biggest city with more than 11 million people.

The company built a state-of-the-art assembly plant amid sugar cane fields and orange groves at Gaviao Peixoto (Gah-vee-OH Pe-HOW-toe), 230 miles from its headquarters.

The plant was built to take on its new line of light jets.

Embraer's facilities are not unlike the modern aircraft plants in Wichita, except that large green, yellow and blue Brazilian flags dot factory walls, and signs are written in Portuguese.

The company — Empressa Brasilerira de Aeronautica — was founded in 1969 as a government initiative.

After sliding into a deep financial crisis, it was privatized in 1994. At the time, employment dropped to 3,200.

After years of costing Brazilian taxpayers millions of dollars, Embraer reformed itself, Aboulafia said.

"They did everything right," he said.

It employs about 17,000 people, down from 23,500 a year ago.

The company entered the business jet market after investing in the Legacy 600 super midsize jet, a regional jet derivative.

It later added the larger Linneage 1000, the smaller Phenom 100 and Phenom 300 and the mid-light and midsize Legacy 450 and 500.

The Legacy 650 unveiled during NBAA has been in development since last year. It's expected to be certified and delivered in 2010.

In 2008, Embraer delivered 38 business jets. In the first nine months of 2009, it delivered 54.

The company has 750 orders for the $3.6 million Phenom 100 and its $6.85 million Phenom 300.

Those jets "are starting to do damage," to Wichita, Aboulafia said.

And in 2012 and 2013 when the Legacy 450 and 500 come to market, "they'll really start doing some damage to some key Wichita programs," he said.

Competing with Wichita

Wichita planemakers call Embraer a low-cost competitor because of Brazil's low wage rates.

They must compete with Embraer's aggressive pricing. To that end, Wichita companies must cut costs, planemakers say.

Affonso disagrees that the company is low-cost.

Embraer buys the majority of its systems components and raw materials from U.S. sources. And labor costs have risen, he said.

By 2011, Embraer will employ more than 1,000 people in the U.S. between its service centers and an assembly plant it will open in Melbourne, Fla., Affonso said.

The company has a positive impact to the U.S. balance of trade, he said.
"We buy more parts components than we sell planes to the U.S.," Affonso said.

Forty-three percent of Embraer's revenue comes from the U.S.
Wichita planemakers also sell planes into Brazil.

One of Wichita's strengths is the companies' customer loyalty and the establishment of their brands and customer service networks, Aboulafia said.
The biggest area of concern for Wichita is Embraer's aggressive product development, he said.

"Cessna and Hawker Beechcraft are falling behind," Aboulafia said.
Product development has been hurt in the downturn.

Hawker Beechcraft stalled the Hawker 450 program and the timeframe for a Premier II has been extended. Those "would have been great," Aboulafia said.
In addition, "an aggressive Cessna strategic product roadmap would have been great," he said.

Cessna was forced to cancel the Citation Columbus large jet program because of the downturn.

At NBAA, Pelton said the company would resume development of the aircraft when the timing is right.

Wichita planemakers note that product development continues so that they'll be ready for the recovery.

Affonso said he has great respect for Wichita planemakers.

"These are very traditional companies," he said. "They have very strong brands and a very strong customer support base. They are very good companies."

Embraer is a "different company, with different brands and different airplanes," Affonso said.


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Embraer employees work on the production of a Phenom 100.


Reach Molly McMillin at 316-269-6708 or mmcmillin@wichitaeagle.com

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Sempre soube que a Embraer é phoda...

[Kaique]

A reportagem expõe um ponto crucial - "Affonso disagrees that the company is low-cost.

Embraer buys the majority of its systems components and raw materials from U.S. sources. And labor costs have risen, he said.

By 2011, Embraer will employ more than 1,000 people in the U.S. between its service centers and an assembly plant it will open in Melbourne, Fla., Affonso said.

The company has a positive impact to the U.S. balance of trade, he said.
"We buy more parts components than we sell planes to the U.S.," Affonso said."

Ou seja, apesar do grande volume financeiro das exportações dos aviões, o saldo não é tão postivo. Já que a empresa é apenas uma montadora.

É essencial que se invista no desenvolvimento e fabricação de componentes. Esses sim é que fazem a cadeia econômica do seor e acumulam os maiores rendimentos.

[EricoWilliams]

O fabricante local que se referem é a Cessna, outro grande fabricante de jatos executivos.

A diferença é que a Embraer além de competir com as fabricantes de jatos executivos americanos, também briga pelo mercado regional com a canadense Bombardier.

[Lost Cosmonaut]

Originally Posted by Kaique

A reportagem expõe um ponto crucial - "Affonso disagrees that the company is low-cost.

Embraer buys the majority of its systems components and raw materials from U.S. sources. And labor costs have risen, he said.

By 2011, Embraer will employ more than 1,000 people in the U.S. between its service centers and an assembly plant it will open in Melbourne, Fla., Affonso said.

The company has a positive impact to the U.S. balance of trade, he said.
"We buy more parts components than we sell planes to the U.S.," Affonso said."

Ou seja, apesar do grande volume financeiro das exportações dos aviões, o saldo não é tão postivo. Já que a empresa é apenas uma montadora.

É essencial que se invista no desenvolvimento e fabricação de componentes. Esses sim é que fazem a cadeia econômica do seor e acumulam os maiores rendimentos.

A Embraer fabrica alguns componentes e compra outros de terceiros, toda fabricante faz isso, inclusive a Airbus e Boeing, ninguém fabrica 100% das peças.

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isso é fato mesmo. Acho que empresas Brasileiras deveriam comprar mais jatos da embraer isso sim. Enfim todos nós sempre soubemos o quão importante a embraer é no seu setor em nivel mundial, espero que ela desenvolva cada vez mais partes com empresas locais ...enfim parabens embraer! Bom ver por aí que o Brasil está se tornando conhecido por algo além de sua agricultura

[Kaique]

Originally Posted by Lost Cosmonaut

A Embraer fabrica alguns componentes e compra outros de terceiros, toda fabricante faz isso, inclusive a Airbus e Boeing, ninguém fabrica 100% das peças.

Não é só da Embraer que me refiro. Sim do setor intereiro.

A Embraer tem a maior parte de seus fornecedores de equipamentos com maior tecnologia fora do país.

Vejam se a Boeing e Airbus não compram a maior parte dos componentes nos EUA e Europa respectivamente.

[legal]

Originally Posted by Kaique

A reportagem expõe um ponto crucial - "Affonso disagrees that the company is low-cost.

Embraer buys the majority of its systems components and raw materials from U.S. sources. And labor costs have risen, he said.

By 2011, Embraer will employ more than 1,000 people in the U.S. between its service centers and an assembly plant it will open in Melbourne, Fla., Affonso said.

The company has a positive impact to the U.S. balance of trade, he said.
"We buy more parts components than we sell planes to the U.S.," Affonso said."

Ou seja, apesar do grande volume financeiro das exportações dos aviões, o saldo não é tão postivo. Já que a empresa é apenas uma montadora.

É essencial que se invista no desenvolvimento e fabricação de componentes. Esses sim é que fazem a cadeia econômica do seor e acumulam os maiores rendimentos.

Eu fui administrador de contratos da Embraer para os programas 170 e 190.
A Embraer nao eh uma montadora. Ela desenvolve parcerias com empresas estrangeiras para sistemas e estrutura, ASSIM COMO a Boeing e a Airbus desenvolvem parcerias com empresas estrangeiras para sistemas e estrutura.
A Embraer eh a responsavel pela parte mais nobre da concepcao de um aviao...o PROJETO... muitas das pecas sao feitas no Brasil... desde a asa do 170 (que era em parceria Nagasaki do Japao e agora esta sendo feita em Gaviao Peixoto) ate fuselagem (Sonaca na Belgica, mas agora quase tudo esta sendo feito SOBRAER Brasil).

Neste ponto, voce nao esta falando a verdade.
AGORA, eu concordo com voce que eh essencial investir em desenvolvimento e fabricacao de MAIS componentes no Brasil (NUNCA TODOS, porque seria um tiro no pe.. muitos desses acordos de parceria trazem capitais estrangeiros para o desenvolvimento de avioes Embraer). A Embraer ja tem um Programa de Nacionalizacao que vai muito bem obrigado.

SOBRE empresas brasileiras comprar mais avioes brasileiros... SEMPRE E QUANDO os avioes brasileiros funcionem perfeitamente com a estrategia da linha aerea brasileira, EH BOM E MARAVILHOSO. Um bom exemplo foi a Azul... casamento perfeito.

Agora, sobre o artigo: muito bom, porque os EUA estao agora muito mais interessados em manter contato e relacoes de alto nivel com o Brasil, ja que agora o Brasil vem mostrando uma capacidade de crescimento e de desenvolvimento empresarial e tecnologico que tem conquistado muito respeito internacional.. Respeito sempre eh bom.

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Wichita Plane Makers Looking Over Their Shoulders ... South

Tue, 03 Nov '09
Casting A Wary Eye At Embraer In Brazil




Wichita has had its problems lately, with the economy, bad publicity from Washington, and soaring unemployment in the business aviation market.

But some of the plane makers say one of their biggest threats is 7,600 miles away in Brazil: Embraer.

The Wichita Eagle reports that Teal Group analyst Richard Aboulafia says Embraer could carve away up to 15-20 percent of the market from Cessna, Hawker Beechcraft, and Bombardier Learjet, Wichita's "Big Three".

"I'm very concerned about them," Hawker Beechcraft CEO Bill Boisture is quoted as saying in the article. "They're entering with price points, size and performance carefully selected, in my view."

Embraer has announced six new bizjets in just the past four years, the most recent being the Legacy 650, a large, long-range $29.5 million dollar airplane announced at the NBAA Meeting and Convention in Orlando two weeks ago. The Legacy 650 is Embraer's 7th bizjet since the company made a commitment to its business aviation program in 2005. Their stated goal is to be a major player in the bizjet market by 2015.

Wichita companies say Embraer has an advantage because of low wage rates, but Luis Carlos Affonso, Embraer executive vice president for executive jets, disagrees with the assessment of Embraer as a low-cost plane maker. He says the majority of Embraer components and raw materials come from U.S. sources, and labor costs are increasing.


Bill Boisture

Affonso said that while he sees Embraer building a brand in the business aviation market, he still considers the Wichita companies to be strong and resillient. "These are very traditional companies," he said. "They have very strong brands and a very strong customer support base. They are very good companies."


FMI: www.embraer.com, www.cessna.com, www.hawkerbeechcraft.com, www.bombardier.com

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Gah-vee-OH Pe-HOW-toe foi foda!