TORONTO 2015 - Pan American Games - Venues

[rsol2000]

I dont like stadium

[isaidso]

Do you realize that Hamilton is a city of only 700,000 people? It was never going to be as large or lavish as the one in Rio. This stadium needs to be usable after the Games. The Hamilton Tiger Cats are the local (Canadian football) football team, but usually only draw 25,000 to 30,000 fans/game. Building something much larger than this would be ill advised.

Here's where they play now:

Oskee Wee Wee, Oskee Wa Wa!


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http://static.cdn.mrx.ca/cfl/ham/ima...7/IWS74836.jpg

Originally Posted by Aireos

Congrats Toronto!

It will be another time. For now, the nearest event in the city will be the 2011 FIFA U-20 World Cup.

Thank you for being a good sport. Just be persistent, it will happen for Bogota. This region of Canada has been trying to land a major multi-sport event for 89 years. The last time was the 1930 Commonwealth Games in Hamilton (where the Pan Am athletics stadium will be built). It's been many many 'no's' for southern Ontario. Finally, a 'yes'!

[koolio]

I imagine the stadium in Hamilton will look much better after the games when the second deck for the opposing stand will be built ... giving it a more symmetrical look.

[isaidso]

Originally Posted by koolio

I imagine the stadium in Hamilton will look much better after the games when the second deck for the opposing stand will be built ... giving it a more symmetrical look.

For the stadium image that is circulating, doesn't that stadium capacity seem really low to you ? It looks like at least 10,000 seats in each tier of seating. The expansion for the Hamilton Tiger Cats looks like a stadium with capacity of 45,000 at the bare minimum, not just 30,000. Let's consider that Commonwealth in Edmonton seats 62,000 fans, has 2 decks on each side, and barely any end zone seats.

Am I the only one who thinks the render doesn't look representative? Is the first one really only half the size of the second?:

Hamilton's Pan American Games Stadium: 30,000 seats


Edmonton's Commonwealth Stadium: 62,000 seats

http://www.gov.edmonton.ab.ca/attrac...yGov/30054.jpg

[Bobby3]

Will this replace the current one? That one is in a right state.

[DHLawrence]

Yes, Ivor Wynne Stadium's days are numbered. Once the new one is finished, Ivor Wynne will be demolished.

[John123]

Originally Posted by JYDA

The main stadium will be built in the city of Hamilton about 45 minutes from Toronto. This is the stadium that will be built.



After the games the Hamilton Tiger-Cats of the CFL will expand the stadium to 30,000 which will look like this.

I like it, it looks very nice.

[KingmanIII]

It's about damn time.

Ivor Wynne is a real beater.

[isaidso]

Ivor Wynne is a dump, but it's still a far better place to watch football than most other stadia in Canada. The sight lines at Ivor Wynne are as good as it gets. I'd rather have a good view than nice amenities.

[Filip]

I find it interesting how one of the publicities for Lima 2015 includes a clear shot of a Toronto-based bank!

[Alx-D]

Originally Posted by isaidso

For the stadium image that is circulating, doesn't that stadium capacity seem really low to you ? It looks like at least 10,000 seats in each tier of seating. The expansion for the Hamilton Tiger Cats looks like a stadium with capacity of 45,000 at the bare minimum, not just 30,000. Let's consider that Commonwealth in Edmonton seats 62,000 fans, has 2 decks on each side, and barely any end zone seats.

Am I the only one who thinks the render doesn't look representative? Is the first one really only half the size of the second?:

Hamilton's Pan American Games Stadium: 30,000 seats


Edmonton's Commonwealth Stadium: 62,000 seats

http://www.gov.edmonton.ab.ca/attrac...yGov/30054.jpg

I'm not convinced that is a final rendering. Chances are good that it may not look anything like that.

This is a render of a soccer stadium to be built in Burlington.


I've read people claim that it will hold 10-12,000 seats. The official bid book states that it will only be for 2,500. Who knows what the thing will actually look like.

[no123one]

I've been a long time reader of this amazing forum, and this is my first post!

I too have wondered about that new Pan American Stadium being too small, and the renderings seem to represent a stadium of about 45,000 minimum.

Why don't they just build the entire thing, both sides with 2 decks, for the Pan Am Games? There is PLENTY of time. Does it make too much sense?

For a city of 5 million, this Toronto bid seems really under scaled.

[isaidso]

Welcome to SSC! I'm glad someone else agrees. The render isn't representative and it seems strange that they don't just build the 30,000 seater. 15,000 is far too small for a Pan American Games athletics stadium. Hamilton could fill that all by itself, then there's the rest of the Golden Horseshoe: over 8 million people in total.

[Jim856796]

The seating capacity would be 15K for the Pan Ams, and then expanded to 30K afterwards? Usually main stadiums for a multi-sport event would be reduced and not increased. Why couldn't they build a 30K capacity stadium and it can remain at that capacity even after the Pan Ams?

[rafamlopes]

They are nor taking the Pan Am Games seriously!
And 45min form Toronto?

After Rio and Moterrey, this looks like a HUGE STEP BACK.

[isaidso]

Originally Posted by rafamlopes

They are nor taking the Pan Am Games seriously!
And 45min form Toronto?

After Rio and Moterrey, this looks like a HUGE STEP BACK.

That was my first reaction when I saw the athletics stadium proposed. It's been branded a Toronto games, but it's really a Golden Horseshoe Games. The games are being spread out throughout the region with only some of the events planned for Toronto.

The opening and closing ceremonies will be in Toronto, but not in the athletics stadium. They will take place at Skydome (Rogers Centre), a Canadian football/baseball stadium. The athletics stadium won't be in Toronto, but the City of Hamilton, Canada's 9th largest city.

I understand why it's being built there, but it's rather misleading to call these a Toronto Games.

[isaidso]

Originally Posted by Jim856796

The seating capacity would be 15K for the Pan Ams, and then expanded to 30K afterwards? Usually main stadiums for a multi-sport event would be reduced and not increased. Why couldn't they build a 30K capacity stadium and it can remain at that capacity even after the Pan Ams?

It doesn't make sense to me either.

[isaidso]

Someone at SSP is suggesting that the stadium holds 27,000 without the end zone seats, and 42,000 with them. If that's accurate, it all makes far more sense.

[no123one]

Hey! These new renderings look great and are what we SHOULD be seeing for the panam games. Winnipeg stadium is similar in design and holds almost 30,000, with only a small endzone seating on one side.