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Old November 27th, 2009, 05:53 AM   #1
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It will be interesting to see how student unions feel about being required to transfer on to a subway, adding transfer time and in many cases, pay an extra fare) to reach York rather than being dropped off right in front of the school. If this is York's plan, I am certain it will not go down without a fight.

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While there are fears the Spadina subway extension -- due to be completed in 2015 -- may render the busway obsolete, Miller said it will still be needed.

"Although it seems like a lot of money ... that money is a really great investment because this will be here forever," he said. "There will always be a need for buses."


http://www.torontosun.com/news/toron...48921-sun.html
Miller's just a politician. He doesn't known whether or not the busway will be needed after the subway extension enters service. That's for service planning to report on. What the Mayor says on this is really irrelevant because a)he's not qualified, and b)he won't be mayor in 2015 anyway... he already won't be mayor in a year from now.

As for the students' union, wow, what a joke that is. If the students' union cared, they would have said something long ago. Their opportunity to speak up on this has long past. The design for York Uni Station has no bus connections in the design. NONE! It's a station that is exclusively accessed on foot. This is what York U wanted, and it has made no secret of it. You need to pay more attention.

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I'm saying IF it were to be extended...
Doesn't change my point. GO still wouldn't be interested if it ran all the way to Scarborough. GO plans to service Richmond Hill Centre after 407 Transitway... because GO buses will be using the 407 Transitway after shooting along the Finch Hydro Corridor between Emery and Pearson area. York U isn't part of their plan. York U told them to get lost.



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Crazy thought: maybe we could run the LRT along this hydro corridor, though I already know you'd oppose such an idea since it would make it too fast and reliable. Better to operate it along a road median with stops at every other side street. Can't expect people to walk for themselves, after all.
Maybe you live in a world where everybody can fly effortlessly as if they all have propellers on their heads, but in the real world, people do have to reach a transit stop on foot if they are going to use a transit service. Novel concept, but it's been the reality for over 150 years in this city. If people are going to walk to transit, it has to run where people are. Now, maybe you know a bunch of people that live in the hydro towers, but that's news to me, last I knew, nobody lives IN the hydro corridor, but lots of people live ON Finch Ave. That's why you run the LRT along it, it's where people are. That's why you have regular stops, so that it is convenient for people on and near Finch to use. It's not convenient if it's off in the hydro corridor where nobody goes. It's isolated, it's not safe, and it's not going to increase its speed nor reliability either, not without grade-separating every single hydro corridor crossing, and even then, there'd be negligible difference in reliability. You don't seem to understand the concept of local service, nor its importance. It's local service that gets ridership, not "fast" services that never stop to pick people up.
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