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![]() You are truly more numb-minded than I originally thought. Nobody could be more of a realist than me when it comes to Africa in particular, and inwardly you know that I am right what I say about it...but keep on dreaming! it is more soothing, maybe your mommy will sing a lullaby for you.
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this is a long article, published in April 2005 when the whole thing went down. I wish I could put certain portions in bold Saturday, April 16, 2005 In Kwara, Hopes And Fears Over White Farmers The government of Kwara State recently signed a memorandum of understanding (Mou) with some white Zimbabwean farmers who were not too long ago dispossessed of their farm lands by the Zimbabwean Government under its controversial land redistribution programme. The commercial farmers are being settled in Shonga communities in Edu Local Council of Kwara State. DEBO OLADIMEJI spoke with the inhabitants of the affected communities on their expectations and fears. THEY call them commercial white farmers from Zimbabwe. They are literally on the run from their naturalised fatherland where the government of Robert Mugabe, in an attempt to redistribute land whose ownership in the former white ruled country was disproportionately tilted in favour of the whites, took some of their lands and gave to the native population. But they have found succour in Nigeria where the government of Bukola Saraki in Kwara State has provided large extracts of farmland for them to peddle their trade: commercial farming. In the Shonga communities where they have been settled, they are to be found in Dedening, Mokwagi, Faigi, Tsaduko, Gnagi Cella Miyaki, Cetta Buro, Cetta Kanshi, Sancitegi Ndakanasa, Todo, Gumbayi, Ogudu, Part of Shonga, Kanko, Gboros, Tsakpata, Tsunfereti and Dumagi. Dumagi community, for instance, is a plain land with Guinea Savannah vegetation. The place is fertile and is suitable for all kinds of crops except cash crops. They have only one source of water in Dumagi and that is River Bodo, for drainage. Throughout the year, they have water in the Bodo river. Dumagi is like elder brother to all the communities aforementioned. Mohammed Dumagi, interpreting for Mohammed Jubril Abubakar the head of Dumagi, a.k.a the Kpafyen, informed that all other communities whose lands are to be used by the white farmers are off-shoots of Dumagi; that the entire land belongs to Dumabi. Explaining how Dumagi and all the other Shonga communities came to act as a settlement for the white farmers, Mohammed Dumagi told The Guardian that the Emir of Shonga summoned all the district heads in the communities recently and informed them that the government of Kwara State wanted to survey their land. The Emir told them that the state government "would want to know how big our land is, so that we could start benefiting from the programme of the State Government like distribution of fertiliser and giving tractor to the farmers etc," Dumagi recalled. According to him, the Kwara State Government used to give tractors, insecticides, fertiliser to the people in Lafiaji area but over the years, his people have not been given such assistance. So, when the Emir said the state government would like to take a survey of their land for proper distribution of the above mentioned benefits, they gladly accepted the whole idea without a whimper of protest. But a fly soon fell into the ointment when the communities got to know that the survey was meant for a different purpose altogether. Dumagi continued: "We were later informed that the State Government would be interested in making use of the land in Apazihi and Kuse communities. We gave the Emir the go ahead but before we could say Jack Robinson, the state government had decided to take over our land for the benefit of the white farmers because the Emir promised them that he had vacant land for the white farmers from Zimbabwe to settle." "But we have said it plainly that in this area, there is no vacant land. Even the land we have is not enough for us. We sometimes quarrel over this land to the extent that, it often leads to deaths," he stressed. He added: "The people in these communities have no other profession. We are all peasant farmers. That is to say that more than 100% of the people are peasant farmers. I say this because, some women are also farmers. Though they have no right to own land but they are given land by their husbands or brothers or uncles to farm. By the time our land is taken away from us what do we do?" Dumagi averred that the communities' lands are their health and religion, their sole means of survival. As such they are not prepared to yield an inch to anybody, not to the government or the white farmers. "If we die, then they can use our land in our absence," Dumagi asserted. "We are saying this because, we want to negotiate in a peaceful way before it gets tough. It is our belief that if we negotiate, we may have peace. But the government said that there is no going back because they have invested so much. They say that they will give us some percentage but we don't want any incentive, we don't want any condition either by lease or any other means." Dumagi fears that the white farmers are trying to displace the black farmers. "The only difference is in the system of farming. The former uses mechanised farming, because that is what is convenient for them. The latter uses traditional system of farming to get what they want," he philosophised. He said the communities were baffled baffle when the Emir said there was no going back on the plan to give their lands to the Zimbabwean farmers. "He said they must do it and that there is no going back," Dumagi agonised. "They want the land of their people to be taken over by foreigners. We want to assure the world that we are not going to give them an inch of our land. If they do so, then it means they have robbed us of our land and God will take care of it," he said. But why are the communities so vehemently opposed to the farmers? Can't they see the advantages derivable from the presence of the white farmers whose success story in commercial farming in Zimbabwe is well known? Dumagi said they are rejecting the foreign farmers for the same reason they were rejected in rejecting the Zimbabwe. "The place where they are coming from, why did they leave the place?" he queried. "We are saying that it is what made the people there reject them that is part of our reason for rejecting them. We shall continue to struggle and maintain our stand. If a thief comes to steal your goods, what do you do? Would you not fight? In the process of struggling with him, you may kill him but you will not be called a murderer. But if he kills you, you are going to paradise," the community spokesman noted. "That is to say that we have nothing to lose, if we defeat them in this battle and if we are defeated equally we have nothing to lose. This is a Jihad for us and we have nothing to lose. How would you feel if somebody suddenly takes over your land in your village?" He is angry that the communities were not part of the transaction ."It was basically between the Emir and the state government," he said. "The Emir told the white farmers that there was a vacant land for them but we told him that we didn't have a vacant land." Umaru Mohammed a youth leader, for his part, said: " Since the controversy started, we have been living in a deplorable situation. We are now living in confusion because ordinarily, we should have started clearing our land for preparation for the rainy season, but as it is now, we cannot because we don't know where to start clearing as the Zimbabwean farmers are marking everywhere. They have started construction even in some areas that people are farming already." He noted distressingly: "We have extended family. It is from the money we make from farming that we make ends meet. In terms of sending our children to school and all that, by the time there is no farm land what do we do? Where everybody is poor what can be gained? Our people are not used to the white man's method of farming.". Mohammed enjoined the government not to bring politics into the whole thing. "This is not a political issue," he argued, adding: "Politics and land are two different things. The issue of land is not political. Politics come and go but land will remain. No money can serve as a compensation to us. If it is a flour mill or an assembly plant, there is no problem but seizing our land from us, is not a joke." He noted: "The Emir is saying that it is going to be for only 25 years but that cannot be true. We know that once the government takes over a particular land, that is the end of it. The Bacita Sugar Company belongs to our people but even after the State Government stopped the production of Sugar, they won't give back the land to us." "We even said that they should divide the land 50/50 since what we practise here is shifting cultivation. So, there is no fallow land. We leave our land to fallow for sometime before we continue with farming on the land. We don't use fertilizer because our land is very fertile," Mohammed declared. He complained about government's plan to move people from one community to the other, saying: "There is no virgin land in this community. From one inch to the other, our people are farming there. Within one year or two, we all meet ourselves at the centre. We have no monthly salary and it is from our farms that we get money to eat. Our farm is our office. It is better they come here and destroy us with bombs than for them to take over our land. We are going to fight with tooth and nail to see that they make us beggars in our own land." Mohammed Sani Dumagi is another spokesman for the Shonga communities. He said: "There is nobody in this community who is not a farmer. Even the unborn children are all farmers. We are not ready to take anything as compensation. No amount of money can compensate us for our land. We have been living without light or water for a long time. Is it now that they want to take over our land that they are going to provide all these things?" Another community Dugbangi is about 10 kilometres away from Dumagi. According to Mr. Amos Dugbangi, the government and the white farmers came to inspect their land but discovered that their land was not fertile enough for the kind of farming activities the white farmers wanted to engage in, but only good for melon and groundnut. "So we are not affected but other communities like Faigi are affected," he enthused. "We are not affected in this area. We are contented with what we have. For the past 20 years, we have been trying to provide electricity on our own; if the government now wants to do anything to help us, we don't mind." The Kpafyen of Faigi Mohammed Jubril Abubakar, informed through an interpreter that the community had been living without light, water and good roads for a long time without complaints. "We have three good wells that serve the entire community and the water they bring forth tastes good," he said. "It is not that we are against the coming of the white farmers but the problem is that our farmlands are not enough even for us to farm. The governor was here and we told him clearly our mind." However, in Tsaduko the indigenes are receptive of the white farmers. Mohammed Sese a spokesman for the community explained that the people would abide by whatever the Emir said with regard to the presence of the white farmers in the community. Already, some indigenes have taken up employment with the white farmers. Similarly, the people of Sancitagi said the Zimbabweans were welcome in their land. Alhaji Usman Baba Sancitagi who spoke through an interpreter for the head of the community, Abubakar Esunpa said: "We are happy that the white men are coming here to farm. But we want them to provide employment for our children who are jobless graduates. We in this community are hungry because we don't have any other job except farming. We also want to benefit from the white farmers. Our town here is very big- we are up to five hundred people. We want the whitemen to provide light for us. That is the first thing. We have been struggling to provide electricity on our own in the past, all to no avail." Sancitagi continued: "We thank God for the white men and the Emir of Shonga. We want them to build our school for us. Then we want them to give us contract, so that we can also benefit. Some of our children also are well trained in art work, like tractor drivers, but they are jobless. So, we want them to provide job for them. There is no money here and we are suffering. We want them to build a new mosque for us." But although the people welcome the new development initiative by the state government, they would not want to be resettled anywhere outside of their immediate environment. "Our land is fertile for crops like groundnut, yam, cassava, maize, guinea corn, beans, rice cashew, mangoes, banana. But we don't have market in this place, so we take them to Shonga or Share. If the white man can do all these things they are welcome. We don't want to have any problems with the Emir of Shonga," said Sancitagi. According to the memorandum of understanding between the Kwara state government and the Zimbabwe farmers, a lease of Agricultural land of approximately one thousand (1000)Hectares will be given to each of the thirty-five farmers for the purpose of undertaking the project. The state government anticipates that the project will enhance food production in Nigeria, encourage skills and technological transfer, generate export earnings employment and stimulate local agro-allied industries. The Zimbabweans farmers were promised full protection, since by virtue of the Land Use Act 1978, the State Government is vested with all land within the state for the benefit of the people.The government will also provide each of the Zimbabweans farmers the sum of $250,000USD and a guarantee for a private sector loan in the sum of $250,000 USD to each farmer on terms to be agreed upon by the parties and the financiers. The white farmers promised among others, "to provide the technological know-how necessary for the efficient utilisation of the irrigation system in respect of the project and to patronise local suppliers where reasonably possible in Kwara State. |
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They could have spend that money on buying tractors to give to locals [ and have the State Agriculture department responsible for maintaining them]. buy them fertizers, seeds and other equipments.many african farmers suffer mostly from lack of founding[ Subsidies] and very bad infrastructures just to be successful. but the stupid governor is subsidizing foreigners instead ![]() ![]() How do we get a dummy like this running things is always puzzling me. |
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Here we go. Flame thread.
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i have been thinking. and that money [ most likely from the UK].
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Whats wrong with some people????
Sometimes I have problems with the posts some people make here. They make callous statements that if a white person made would be deemed racist and rightly so. And these same people are always scream racism at the slightest thing
![]() ![]() With regards to this topic, I think its a very welcome idea and more Zimbabwean farmers should be gotten IF it will mechanize farming in Nigeria. The govt should give them long term leases and demand productivity as an incentive. They should also have to train locals to expand mechanized farming in Naija. |
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I couldnīt agree more with what you said.These are Zim farmers, hence Africans , what can be more positive to a country than Africans employing Africans and working for Africa??? Zim farmers are brilliant experts that lack across Africa. The fact is that the majority here hate white people and coloured people, especially people coming form certain mentally non-liberal African countries, for them only pure "non-infested" 100% black Africans are "true Africans"...they are no better than the far right wing parties across Europe. IT IS A SHAME IN 21st CENTURY.
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The truth is there are plenty of rich black Africans who have the money to go into large mechanisized farming but choose not too so rather than complaining about white farmers you should complain why rich black Africans have failed to invest in agriculture. They look at farming as a "poor mans" job. This attitude HAS to change.
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exactly, when Dr kwame popa throws his stethoscope and rolls up his sleeves and starting farming somewhere kumasi than hunger will be history in Africa
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2) Im actually born and raised in UK so it should be up to actual Ghanaians to invest in farming. 3) Lastly, contrary to popular belief, doctors arent millionaires. I dont have anywhere near the finances to start and operate a large farm- but many businessmen in Accra and Lagos do. |
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thanks for the clarification
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