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Old December 19th, 2009, 02:08 AM   #21
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Thanks for the comments and info guys.

Minato Ku, thanks for the info on the rail transport. I got it now. It's a surprise to me though that public transport in some areas in France is not so good. I always thought that all of France has great and efficient public transport (like in Paris).
Public transports in Paris are far from perfect.
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Old December 19th, 2009, 02:11 AM   #22
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Public transports in Paris are far from perfect.
Perhaps not perfect (like in Singapore ) but generally it seems to be good. And certainly better than in Marseille.
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Old December 19th, 2009, 03:02 AM   #23
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It is because most of the suburban devellopment of France is post WW2, so with the car.
Anway the inner city transportation is often good even in Marseille.
The city has two subway and two LRT line.

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Areas around the train station were not the most pleasing ones
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The city centre looks amazing! But I have to say some of those suburban places look third worldish which I find quite unbelievable.
It is not the suburbs but the inner city, in Marseille many of the poorest part are next to the center or even in the center.
By exemple the area around the train station is the 3rd arrondissement, the municipality with of lowest income by capita of France.
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Old December 19th, 2009, 03:21 AM   #24
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It is because most of the suburban devellopment of France is post WW2, so with the car.
Anway the inner city transportation is often good even in Marseille.
The city has two subway and two LRT line.





It is not the suburbs but the inner city, in Marseille many of the poorest part are next to the center or even in the center.
By exemple the area around the train station is the 3rd arrondissement, the municipality with of lowest income by capita of France.
In 2013 Marseille will be European capital of culture. I guess it will be a good chance for the municipal government to give a little facelift to the entire city and spend some Euros on cleaning the streets and fixing some facades.
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Old December 19th, 2009, 05:10 AM   #25
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i've been watching this city in a french soap opera called plus belle la vie en tv5

great pictures
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Old December 19th, 2009, 03:03 PM   #26
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In 2013 Marseille will be European capital of culture. I guess it will be a good chance for the municipal government to give a little facelift to the entire city and spend some Euros on cleaning the streets and fixing some facades.
This is actually terrible.

The gentrification/reconstruction they are doing right now in the city is like an anti-poor bulldozer.

Marseille was a good exeption in France because in almost all of our cities the centers had been gentrified and the more working class populations have been chases to the outskirts. Only in Marseille did business and the upper classes not completely own and control the center.

Now they are buying new buildings and kicking their inhabitants out, often directly.
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Old December 19th, 2009, 04:36 PM   #27
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^Thatīs sad to hear I hate it when cities are being over gentrificated.
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Old December 19th, 2009, 08:12 PM   #28
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How nice to see it...
I've been to Marseille this summer and I must say it's a nice city. I stayed in a hotel nearby the building, which is on the picture 40., it's not so far from the Prado Beach. The best way to travel there is to catch a subway or a bus. It's not expensive. My biggest mistake, as I see now, was traveling from city centre to the airport (it is really far away) by taxi. I paid 60 euros! When train is 12 times cheaper. But the luggage...
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Old December 20th, 2009, 12:48 AM   #29
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I visited Marseille 8 years ago and I loved it. Like some others here allready wrote, because it's not gentrificated (yet) I like 'rough' cities and the setting on the Meditarian coast makes it a quite pleasant town.
Cool pics anyway!
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Old December 21st, 2009, 11:42 PM   #30
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Old December 22nd, 2009, 01:39 AM   #31
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this is one of the nicer French med cities.
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Old December 23rd, 2009, 07:47 PM   #32
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La plage c'est excellent. Qu'est que la temperature dans les mois d'ete?
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