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Canadian Economy
Thread for general economic news so that I don't need to make a new one for every nice article that I find.
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It is absolutely fascinating to see the changes in economic world order happening before us.
A historic moment has occurred when the CAD followed its own interests and not bouncing to the beat of the USD. Canada's economy is currently at a crossroads... If successful in fighting off the desires of Europe and the USA to tax the banking industry; Canada will be the only developed country on this planet where banks are not taxed - this will increase our competitiveness sky high and enable Canada to aggressively pursue global finance jobs and offices fleeing highly taxed jurisdictions. Also I think Harper should make a strong point about bringing a global securities regulator to be headed by Canada. We have shown the world that our system works and for that we should be allowed to reap the rewards. Clearly this regulator should be where the banks are and that's Toronto (mostly because I'd like an easier time finding a job when I graduate, among other things).. Regardless this entire financial fiasco of the past 2 years has done nothing but good to the Toronto financial industry. |
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It's unwise to gloat, but we can still grin smugly when nobody's looking
![]() Good to see that Ontario is recovering. We have a lot of lost time to catch up on! |
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These GDP growth estimates are always a bit weird depending on where they are coming from. I'm after seeing a couple this year showing that Newfoundland and Labrador will lead in GDP growth, followed by Saskatchewan, but NL will have very little growth next year. Then the Conference Board estimates BC and Ontario will lead in growth while NL will grow very little this year and by alot next year. I've seen several that have mentioned strong growth in BC and Ontario but I guess like most things we will have to wait till next year to find out how the provincial economies did.
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I'll make the prediction, right now - but the end of this decade, the Canadian dollar will be way above par with the US Dollar. By way above par, I mean the loonie worth maybe $1.50 US. Canada's resources and economic and financial stability are such that people sending their money here will know they won't lose their investments. By 2020, the US Dollar and the Euro will be a different story, and the economies showing real growth and currency stability - Canada, Australia and South Korea for sure, Japan, the UK and South Africa possibly - will be the places where people put their money, thus driving up the values of those currencies. (I say maybe for the last three because the UK and Japan have big debts, and South Africa still has political problems to grapple with.) The Europeans face several countries that really do need to put their fiscal houses in order - Greece is the first but they won't be the last - and the US, which has managed to balance the books for three years since the Great Depression, is going to have to figure out how to do that without driving its economy into recession, and do so knowing that the United States Congress is almost totally subservient to corporate interests and their army of lobbyists. Both cases, they won't face those facts until a crisis hits, and by that point the money from smart people will be looking for other places to go. Hence, other nations benefit.
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People always have short memories, especially those looking to make a quick buck and ride trends. So in 5 or 10 years when or if the global economy recovers and continues to grow at pre-recession rates all the money will go back in the high flying unregulated or low regulated countries.
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Canadian stocks fall on concerns over European debt crisis
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Nothing new there. Stock market goes up and down daily. Our economy and our dollar is still outperforming many other countries.
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I think Canada's long term economic outlook is better than most but the figures they place on Canada's debt to GDP ratio are laughable. Few countries in the world have provinces/states that are as powerful as ours. If you were to combine the fed/prov/city total debts our figure comes out at about 70% of GDP. Its easy for federal governments to make their books look good when all they have to do is pass a lot of the expenses down to other levels of government.
This is the same as what the Americans do although their situation is far, far worse. The debt to GDP in the US is now a whopping 95% of GDP but when that is combined with state and municable debt the figure soars to 110%. When these ddebt to GDP numbers, for any country, are examined they are only relevant if they include all government level debt as their is only one tax payer to support that debt. |
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^ Sorry screwed the numbers a bit........................................the US federal debt is 90% and the with the state and municiple debt now combined at $3 trillion but the number still comes out to 110% debt to GDP
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Double post.
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I doubt anyone is drawing conclusions about the strength of Canada's economy based on that one posted.
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this article may be a bit old but i ain't modest to post it again. [NOTE: Sorry. Since I'm a subscriber to FT, I want to respect their request not to publish the full article on the web. You can read the rest of the article by registering for free on their website, www.FT.com]
What Toronto can teach New York and London By Chrystia Freeland The Financial Times Published: January 29 2010 17:20 | Last updated: January 29 2010 17:20 There’s something about Canada that inspires gentle mockery from foreigners, especially those who live south of the border. Kelly Ripa, the co-host of a popular US talk show, this month engaged in an extended on-air riff with her husband (don’t ask) about the absurdity of Canadian place names; Regina came in for a particular beating. South Park once invented a ditty – “Blame Canada” – devoted to bashing the Great White North. And at the elite end of the spectrum, Michael Kinsley, then editor of The New Republic, wondered what the most boring possible headline for a news story might be, and determined that “Worthwhile Canadian Initiative” was the winner. This tendency to react to the mere mention of Canada with either yawns or guffaws may be why, as the world struggles to figure out what went wrong in 2007 and 2008, not much international attention is being devoted to figuring out what went right in Canada. Canada is the only G7 country to survive the financial crisis without a state bail-out for its financial sector. Two of the world’s 15 most highly valued financial institutions – a list dominated by China – are Canadian and a recent World Economic Forum report rated the Canadian banking system the world’s soundest. Even Barack Obama, on the eve of a visit last year to Ottawa, the Canadian *capital, admitted: “In the midst of the enormous economic crisis, I think Canada has shown itself to be a pretty good manager of the financial system and the economy in ways that we haven’t always been.” View from the Top Canada Mark Carney, governor, Bank of Canada Julie Dickson, Canadian bank regulator One of the most important policy debates today – particularly in countries hardest hit by the crash, such as the US and UK – is what caused the crisis and what should be done to prevent a repetition. Inevitably, the discussion is hypothetical: even if we could agree on exactly what went wrong, no one can prove that any recommended policy changes would have averted the meltdown. That’s where Canada comes in. It is a real-world, real-time example of a banking system in a medium-sized, advanced capitalist economy that worked. Understanding why the Canadian system survived could be a key to making the rest of the west equally robust. The first argument you are likely to hear when you start asking what made Canada different is cultural. Depending on your degree of fondness for Canucks, this thesis comes down to the notion that Canadians are either too nice or too dull to indulge in the no-holds-barred, plundering capitalism that created such a spectacular boom, and eventual bust, in more aggressive societies. A senior official in Ottawa likes to say that Canadian bankers are “boring, but in a good way. They are more interested in balance sheets than in high society. They don’t go to the opera.” Some of them – including the chief executive of the Royal Bank of Canada, the country’s largest bank – have never even been to Davos. According to Matt Winkler, editor-in-chief of Bloomberg News, “Canadians are like hobbits. They are just not as rapacious as Americans.” And Paul Volcker, the legendary inflation-slaying former head of the US Federal Reserve and an adviser to Obama, told me that Canada’s strength is “partly a cultural thing – they are more conservative”. Chrystia Freeland is the FT’s US managing editor. Her last piece for the magazine was about Russian journalists working in Ukraine Copyright The Financial Times Limited 2010. Last edited by ditto; May 31st, 2010 at 06:46 AM. |
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