Smart and Dumb U.S. States

CincoRanchHoustonRes · October 10th, 2005, 06:55 PM

States Ranked: Smartest to Dumbest

The smartest state in the union for the second consecutive year is Massachusetts.

The dumbest, for the third year in a row, is New Mexico.

These are the findings of the Education State Rankings, a survey by Morgan Quitno Press of hundreds of public school systems in all 50 states. States were graded on a variety of factors based on how they compare to the national average. These included such positive attributes as per-pupil expenditures, public high school graduation rates, average class size, student reading and math proficiency, and pupil-teacher ratios. States received negative points for high drop-out rates and physical violence.

How does YOUR state rank?

1. Massachusetts
2. Connecticut
3. Vermont
4. New Jersey
5. Wisconsin
6. New York
7. Minnesota
8. Iowa
9. Pennsylvania
10. Montana

11. Maine
12. Virginia
13. Nebraska
14. New Hampshire
15. Kansas
16. Wyoming
17. Indiana
18. Maryland
19. North Dakota
20. Ohio

21. Colorado
22. South Dakota
23. Rhode Island
24. Illinois
25. North Carolina
26. Missouri
27. Delaware
28. Utah
29. Idaho
30. Washington

31. Michigan
32. South Carolina
33. Texas and West Virginia (tie)
34. Oregon
35. Arkansas
36. Kentucky
37. Georgia
38. Florida
39. Oklahoma

40. Tennessee
41. Hawaii
42. California
43. Alabama
44. Alaska
45. Louisiana
46. Mississippi
47. Arizona
48. Nevada
49. New Mexico

Link

BuffCity · October 10th, 2005, 07:06 PM

looks about right, higher standards usually reflect better performance.

also, the southwest is having to educate Native Americans and Mexicans...which hurts the scores I'm sure.

chicagogeorge · October 10th, 2005, 07:33 PM

Smart states in blue and dumb states in red. Actaully, I'm

I don't even consider myself a liberal democrat. I thought this was funny.

The anti-cheesehead · October 10th, 2005, 07:34 PM

These lists never seem to change much.

jmanhsv · October 10th, 2005, 07:44 PM

[Quote]43. Alabama[\Quote]

Yes! We moved up one! At this rate, we'll be smarter than California by next year!

cwilson758 · October 10th, 2005, 08:04 PM

WHAT??? Indiana top 20?

Git owt of hear...

Expat · October 10th, 2005, 08:29 PM

The list doesn't surprise me. Also, it doesn't surprise me that it coincides with the red/blue map.

NovaWolverine · October 10th, 2005, 09:37 PM

For the most part it follows the election results, but again, the election was still pretty close in even many of the blue states near the top. As it was for red states like Iowa and Virginia and they're pretty high. I dunno about Montana.

seanlax5 · October 10th, 2005, 10:20 PM

Taht map is the best part of the fourum

Scraper Enthusiast · October 10th, 2005, 10:35 PM

You could pretty much make a correlation with poverty/per capita income and other demographic components and get that list.

If Massachusetts had the same demographics as California or Arizona, it would be at the bottom.

Here's an important truth: State funding of Education & Teacher Qualification have little to do with where a state is ranked, as most states have roughly the same standards, with regard to teacher certification and curriculum (content and delivery).

ReddAlert · October 10th, 2005, 10:37 PM

Yeah Wisconsin!

Jayayess1190 · October 10th, 2005, 10:37 PM

Yeah! PA is #9!

kickazzz2000 · October 10th, 2005, 10:38 PM

wooo hooo...NC best in the south...not sayin much.

DarkFenX · October 10th, 2005, 10:54 PM

Go Boston!

ttownfeen · October 10th, 2005, 10:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kickazzz2000

wooo hooo...NC best in the south...not sayin much.

12. Virginia
25. North Carolina

Architorture · October 11th, 2005, 12:55 AM

so physical violence has a direct correlation to intelligence eh? that is certainly an interesting take on things...it seems through out history many wise people have chosen violence over non violence...

ROCguy · October 11th, 2005, 01:22 AM

Montana is in the top 10? That's just... odd.

jmancuso · October 11th, 2005, 01:28 AM

this thread is dumb.

October 10th, 2005, 06:55 PM	#1
CincoRanchHoustonRes Proud Houstonian Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Houston Posts: 113 Likes (Received): 0	Smart and Dumb U.S. States States Ranked: Smartest to Dumbest The smartest state in the union for the second consecutive year is Massachusetts. The dumbest, for the third year in a row, is New Mexico. These are the findings of the Education State Rankings, a survey by Morgan Quitno Press of hundreds of public school systems in all 50 states. States were graded on a variety of factors based on how they compare to the national average. These included such positive attributes as per-pupil expenditures, public high school graduation rates, average class size, student reading and math proficiency, and pupil-teacher ratios. States received negative points for high drop-out rates and physical violence. How does YOUR state rank? 1. Massachusetts 2. Connecticut 3. Vermont 4. New Jersey 5. Wisconsin 6. New York 7. Minnesota 8. Iowa 9. Pennsylvania 10. Montana 11. Maine 12. Virginia 13. Nebraska 14. New Hampshire 15. Kansas 16. Wyoming 17. Indiana 18. Maryland 19. North Dakota 20. Ohio 21. Colorado 22. South Dakota 23. Rhode Island 24. Illinois 25. North Carolina 26. Missouri 27. Delaware 28. Utah 29. Idaho 30. Washington 31. Michigan 32. South Carolina 33. Texas and West Virginia (tie) 34. Oregon 35. Arkansas 36. Kentucky 37. Georgia 38. Florida 39. Oklahoma 40. Tennessee 41. Hawaii 42. California 43. Alabama 44. Alaska 45. Louisiana 46. Mississippi 47. Arizona 48. Nevada 49. New Mexico Link __________________ Houston Architecture Info Forum

October 10th, 2005, 07:06 PM	#2
BuffCity I make Buffalo look good! Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: BUFFALO Posts: 6,617 Likes (Received): 0	looks about right, higher standards usually reflect better performance. also, the southwest is having to educate Native Americans and Mexicans...which hurts the scores I'm sure. __________________ Urban Photo Collection

October 10th, 2005, 07:33 PM	#3
chicagogeorge Registered User Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: South suburban Chicago Posts: 5,312 Likes (Received): 105	Smart states in blue and dumb states in red. Actaully, I'm I don't even consider myself a liberal democrat. I thought this was funny. __________________ for the Pelasgians, too, were a Greek nation originally from the Peloponnesus The Roman Antiquities of Dionysius of Halicarnassus http://penelope.uchicago.edu/Thayer/...assus/1B.html Macedonia, of course, is a part of Greece". Strabo, VII, Frg. 9 http://penelope.uchicago.edu/Thayer/...ragments.html But north of the gulf, the first inhabitants are Greeks called Epirotes.... Procopius http://books.google.com/books?id=9m6...page&q&f=false

October 10th, 2005, 07:34 PM	#4
The anti-cheesehead Registered User Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: City of Minneapolis Posts: 3,028 Likes (Received): 0	These lists never seem to change much. __________________ Minneapolis *AND* St. Paul: pop. 669,769 in 108 sq. miles

October 10th, 2005, 07:44 PM	#5
jmanhsv Registered User Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Huntsville, AL Posts: 320 Likes (Received): 0	[Quote]43. Alabama[\Quote] Yes! We moved up one! At this rate, we'll be smarter than California by next year! __________________ National recognition for Huntsville Huntsville Development News

October 10th, 2005, 08:04 PM	#6
cwilson758 Cory Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Cleveland via Indianapolis Posts: 3,409 Likes (Received): 3	WHAT??? Indiana top 20? Git owt of hear...

October 10th, 2005, 08:29 PM	#7
Expat Registered User Join Date: May 2005 Location: Greater Boston Posts: 1,042 Likes (Received): 0	The list doesn't surprise me. Also, it doesn't surprise me that it coincides with the red/blue map.

October 10th, 2005, 09:37 PM	#8
NovaWolverine Registered User Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Arlington, VA Posts: 2,622 Likes (Received): 1	For the most part it follows the election results, but again, the election was still pretty close in even many of the blue states near the top. As it was for red states like Iowa and Virginia and they're pretty high. I dunno about Montana.

October 10th, 2005, 10:20 PM	#9
seanlax5 Addicted to Guitar Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Baltimore Posts: 584 Likes (Received): 0	Taht map is the best part of the fourum __________________ East-side fool! Laura-ville FTW I'm the Simcity Veteran around here!

October 10th, 2005, 10:35 PM	#10
Scraper Enthusiast Registered User Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 497 Likes (Received): 0	You could pretty much make a correlation with poverty/per capita income and other demographic components and get that list. If Massachusetts had the same demographics as California or Arizona, it would be at the bottom. Here's an important truth: State funding of Education & Teacher Qualification have little to do with where a state is ranked, as most states have roughly the same standards, with regard to teacher certification and curriculum (content and delivery).

October 10th, 2005, 10:37 PM	#11
ReddAlert BANNED Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Milwaukee, WI Posts: 4,853 Likes (Received): 0	Yeah Wisconsin!

October 10th, 2005, 10:37 PM	#12
Jayayess1190 Registered User Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Philadelphia/Pittsburgh Posts: 1,387 Likes (Received): 2	Yeah! PA is #9! __________________ My Flickr Photo gallery, Visit and comment! or see 4 years worth of Pittsburgh! Camera: Sony NEX-C3

October 10th, 2005, 10:38 PM	#13
kickazzz2000 Registered User Join Date: Jun 2004 Posts: 111 Likes (Received): 0	wooo hooo...NC best in the south...not sayin much.

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October 11th, 2005, 12:55 AM	#16
Architorture Professional Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: on the hill Posts: 768 Likes (Received): 0	so physical violence has a direct correlation to intelligence eh? that is certainly an interesting take on things...it seems through out history many wise people have chosen violence over non violence...

October 11th, 2005, 01:22 AM	#17
ROCguy Registered User Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Rochester, NY Posts: 4,052 Likes (Received): 0	Montana is in the top 10? That's just... odd.

October 11th, 2005, 01:28 AM	#18
jmancuso make it so... Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Houston Posts: 6,875 Likes (Received): 20	this thread is dumb.

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