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Old May 29th, 2010, 03:41 PM   #4941
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"She got captured.while giving land to singapore Ascendas group of about 100 acres" What exactly u mean. unable to comprehend. THELIVA CHOLLU PA.
I mean that jaya did something wrongly by lending land to IT companies at low prices but it leads to development of IT in Chennai.
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Old May 29th, 2010, 04:39 PM   #4942
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"She got captured.while giving land to singapore Ascendas group of about 100 acres" What exactly u mean. unable to comprehend. THELIVA CHOLLU PA.
Both are inexperienced and incompetent and they learnt at the cost of people..no long term plans ..they support industrialists because of "pettis" they give
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Old May 29th, 2010, 05:19 PM   #4943
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Yup that was a good move and she did that and full marks to her for that!................
there are only 2 contenders for CM post for next elections. jaya and stalin.
we should get a CM who is having long term plans for tamilnadu and who really want tamilnadu to become no 1.

1. a person who can get back kachateevu
2. a person who can get water from cauvery.
3. a person who can get water from krishna for chennai.
4 a person who can implement a project like veeranam so quickly with world bank loan.
5. a person who can stop kerala from building a new dam which otherwise will make madurai , ramanatapuram deserts.
6. a person who can increase electricity production manifold in a short span.
not depending on wind energy and central govt nuclear power.
7. a person who can give the confidence to investors that law and order will be maintained in the state. not like killing of manager in pricol in coimbatore.
8. building flyovers of 700 m, 800m in 9 months is not achievement.


if again in the next election the present ruling party comes to power , even god cannot save TN. only V.. can.
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Old May 29th, 2010, 05:30 PM   #4944
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I really feel projects like FREE color tv, free land,free house, free gas stove ,rice for 1 rupee is total waste of public money.

and in the same way cooum restoration project is also total waste of money. i am sure it will become like the sethu samudram project and will benefit only D.. total waste of money.
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Old May 29th, 2010, 05:30 PM   #4945
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Free education is acceptable though. i pray to god that money should go to poor students just based on merit and not based on religion and caste.
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Old May 29th, 2010, 05:55 PM   #4946
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Yup that was a good move and she did that and full marks to her for that!


Lets credit where credit is due.

Maran was instrumental in getting the elect hardware industries. The chip manufacturing park would have come to Chennai too with Maran’s push had amma decided to move on it and allocate land, but we lost it to hyd because she was scared the credit will go to maran. Yes, she did bring industries to chennai, but Stalin + Maran have done yeoman’s job for chennai.

Actually Jaya would have been better without Karuna and vice versa. These two people just bring out the worse in each other and TN would have been better off without these two.


vs007 i want to ask you one thing. do you have any proof or any source to quote that jayalalitha did not allot land and because of that the project went to hyderabad. it is not correct to simply blame someone without proper information.

actually it was because of Ponniyan that we missed that project that time. immediately ponniyan was removed as finance minister.
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Old May 29th, 2010, 06:31 PM   #4947
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there are only 2 contenders for CM post for next elections. jaya and stalin.
we should get a CM who is having long term plans for tamilnadu and who really want tamilnadu to become no 1.

1. a person who can get back kachateevu
2. a person who can get water from cauvery.
3. a person who can get water from krishna for chennai.
4 a person who can implement a project like veeranam so quickly with world bank loan.
5. a person who can stop kerala from building a new dam which otherwise will make madurai , ramanatapuram deserts.
6. a person who can increase electricity production manifold in a short span.
not depending on wind energy and central govt nuclear power.
7. a person who can give the confidence to investors that law and order will be maintained in the state. not like killing of manager in pricol in coimbatore.
8. building flyovers of 700 m, 800m in 9 months is not achievement.


if again in the next election the present ruling party comes to power , even god cannot save TN. only V.. can.

So what do we have here Stalin Vs Jaya??

OK let me explain, We need a government which will
-Continute River cleanup projects and ecological restoration projets like adayar park/botanical park/vaigai cleanup/Manimuthar cleanup/Dredging streams and rivers
in Delta
-Continue Water conservation projects Cauvery Gundar link and Tamirabarani-Karumeniyar link instead of begging Karnataka/AP/Kerla for water.
-Build innumerable flyovers to ease traffic in not just in chennai but in all TN cities.
-Implement 2 water desalination plants for chennai
-Allocate 1000s of acres of land for Country based SEZs in and around Chennai.
-Take IT to second and third tier cities in TN
-Maintain Chennai's lead as a Auto/Electonics manufacturing hub.
-Implement Chennai - Bangalore Corridor,
-Financial City in Chennai, no matter how small its size is.
-Implement Port Maduravoyal expressway, because its critical to the survival of Chennai port as a leading exporter
-Allocate 10,000 crores for school education in budget.
-Implement Uniform Educational systems across state/Matric boards.
-Implement Activity Based learning at primary levels
-Implement Chennai Metro
-Try to attract investments to southern districts like Videocon, MRF, Textile Parks around Madurai
-Augment Power supply by building/expanding Power plants like TNEB-North Chennai, Tuticorin and Mettur
-Implement Drinking water schemes like Hogenakkal, Ramanathapuram cauvery water scheme, Madurai Drinking water scheme from Vaigai, etc, etc
-Encourage 6 merchant/private power plants in Nagai and Tuticorin areas worth 12000 MW to make TN self sufficient in Power.
-Innumerable city beautification initiatives like Marina beautification, Parks along Cooum, road widening, FOBs, beggar rehab etc
-Continue getting Airport Construction/Modernization funds for Trichy/Madurai/Kovai etc.
-Keep getting Volvos or other decent looking buses instead of rickety green dubbas.
-Eradication of huts with new housing scheme.
- and many more...

Now we all know that none of this is going to happen If Jaya comes to power Tamilnadu, and our state will for sure go back to dark ages. Lets all hope and pray, that Stalin makes it through for the second term of this govt.

Honestly,
How many of you Jaya supportes have seen her inspecting development works with enthu, like Stalin who is often seen walking around with his T-shirt and sneakers, getting updates on projects and instructing officials for speedy implementation?
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Old May 29th, 2010, 06:39 PM   #4948
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there are only 2 contenders for CM post for next elections. jaya and stalin.
we should get a CM who is having long term plans for tamilnadu and who really want tamilnadu to become no 1.

1. a person who can get back kachateevu
2. a person who can get water from cauvery.
3. a person who can get water from krishna for chennai.
4 a person who can implement a project like veeranam so quickly with world bank loan.
5. a person who can stop kerala from building a new dam which otherwise will make madurai , ramanatapuram deserts.
6. a person who can increase electricity production manifold in a short span.
not depending on wind energy and central govt nuclear power.
7. a person who can give the confidence to investors that law and order will be maintained in the state. not like killing of manager in pricol in coimbatore.
8. building flyovers of 700 m, 800m in 9 months is not achievement.


if again in the next election the present ruling party comes to power , even god cannot save TN. only V.. can.
1) Getting back kachateevu is ruled out as it was handed over to srilanka in the year 1974 by the central govt headed by Smt.Indira gandhi.
2)Cauvery dispute with karnataka existed even before independence.As long as it remains a state subject it cannot be resolved.
3)We get some water through telugu ganga canal and this was possible only because of NTR who came to power in 1983.Now A.P itself is in turmoil with the separate Telengana issue and demand for krishna water for the parched telengana regions is very high in the agenda for separate state.Hence chennai shud be lucky to receive whatever water it gets now.
4) yes,Jaya has done one of the few good things during her regime.
5)It is imperative to construct a new dam keeping in view the frailness of the old existing dam.If this is neglected because of interstate dispute it will be catastrophic to the adjoining districts of kerala in the event of the dam bursting.Hope better sense prevail on the political parties in TN.
6) For your information Jaya has not initiated a single power project during her regime.Power projects are medium to long gestation projects. Her folly of not starting a single power project has landed TN in an acute poer shortage.
7)Do u mean to say that law and order was perfect during her regime.Go back to the period 2001-06 and find for yourself.
8) DMK Govt will construct small narrow flyovers (KOMANAM FLYOVERS) but AIADMK govt will not even repair the existing roads but break the flyovers constructed during the DMK period to see whether it was quality construction only to politicise.
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Old May 29th, 2010, 06:42 PM   #4949
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And who ever thinks that Jaya can get Cauvery/Palar/Periyar water must be the biggest joker on the earth!!

And whatsup with Katchtheevu? Why would somebody want a part of another country.
What is it worth? and how will it impact TN's socio economic status or infrastructural growth.

Come on guys, there needs to be limit to this insanity.

Hello..Where the heck are the moderators????
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Old May 29th, 2010, 07:06 PM   #4950
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So what do we have here Stalin Vs Jaya??

OK let me explain, We need a government which will
Continute River cleanup projects and ecological restoration projets like adayar park/botanical park/vaigai cleanup/Manimuthar cleanup/Dredging streams and rivers
in Delta
Cooum river clean up is just a way to make money. It has been in news since 1970s. DMK came to power so many times since 1970, but why is it that it failed to implement ?
Even Stalin while he was the mayor could not do it. Before cleaning the cooum, we need to have funds.. We cant keep on borrowing money from Central govt or from Japan or singapore. It will result in huge loss for the treasury. We need the finance first. Debt is 89000 cr already.

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Continue Water conservation projects Cauvery Gundar link and Tamirabarani-Karumeniyar link instead of begging Karnataka/AP/Kerla for water.
can u please tell me the status of the above mentioned projects ?
Any govt will do it.



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Build innumerable flyovers to ease traffic in not just in chennai but in all TN cities.
Chennai's mini-flyovers are itself horrible. u want to take them down to western and soutehrn districts. Pathetic!!!


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Implement 2 water desalination plants for chennai.
CG has to support for water desalination plants. look at this article and u ll know if jaya wanted desalination plant or not .

http://www.larouchepub.com/other/200...adu_desal.html

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Allocate 1000s of acres of land for Country based SEZs in and around Chennai.
The total area is 1500-1800 acres. each country will get around 300 acres. I appreciate the govt in bringing the investment to sriperumbudur.
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Take IT to second and third tier cities in TN.
They havent campainged to the IT companies to invest in chennai itself. How would they do it for other cities. ? This govt failed big time in IT investments
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Maintain Chennai's lead as a Auto/Electonics manufacturing hub.
Appreciate the govt, but i am hopeful even jaya would support.

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Implement Chennai - Bangalore Corridor,
CG has to do this, not the state govt. If karuna's ministers are part of CG then they ll do everything possible to block the funding as they did for the proposed chennai monorail and desalination plants. With no help from the CG, jaya roped in so many IT companies and succesfully completed the veeranama project. But karuna gets time only to lobby for cabinet ministries for his family and doesnt spend time to lobby for a railway line to sriperumbudur. Is this called pro-development ????????
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Financial City in Chennai, no matter how small its size is.
Stalin has no long term vision. Thats why he is constructing so many mini-flyovers and such a small fin city.
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Implement Port Maduravoyal expressway, because its critical to the survival of Chennai port as a leading exporter
Man, CG has to do it as this is part of NHAI. Get the facts right.
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Allocate 10,000 crores for school education in budget.
-Implement Uniform Educational systems across state/Matric boards.
-Implement Activity Based learning at primary levels
-Implement Chennai Metro
DMK govt is making announcements like 10k crore for education ? only when the next govt comes to power we can know if they allocated money or not . To implement a mass rail transport system, u need the support of CG. Why is it that karuna is not ready to share the cost for perungudi-pondicherry rail line which willl benefit the IT corridor ? He is more interested in giving free tv sets and attending film functions. I am sure if jaya comes to power, she will be ready to share the cost as she is always interested in IT development.

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Try to attract investments to southern districts like Videocon, MRF, Textile Parks around Madurai
-Augment Power supply by building/expanding Power plants like TNEB-North Chennai, Tuticorin and Mettur
-Implement Drinking water schemes like Hogenakkal, Ramanathapuram cauvery water scheme, Madurai Drinking water scheme from Vaigai, etc, etc
-Encourage 6 merchant/private power plants in Nagai and Tuticorin areas worth 12000 MW to make TN self sufficient in Power.
-Innumerable city beautification initiatives like Marina beautification, Parks along Cooum, road widening, FOBs, beggar rehab etc
-Continue getting Airport Construction/Modernization funds for Trichy/Madurai/Kovai etc.
-Keep getting Volvos or other decent looking buses instead of rickety green dubbas.
-Eradication of huts with new housing scheme.

- and many more...
FOBs with lift are serving no purpose. Check the facts first. IT corridor stinks.
Only development i see in chennai in the past 4 yrs is volvos and other buses. but there is no long term planning. Already the treasury is emptied. Situation ll be worse if they come back to power in 2011. CAG has sent a warning already. What is stalin doing ???

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Now we all know that none of this is going to happen If Jaya comes to power Tamilnadu, and our state will for sure go back to dark ages. Lets all hope and pray, that Stalin makes it through for the second term of this govt.

Honestly,
How many of you Jaya supportes have seen her inspecting development works with enthu, like Stalin who is often seen walking around with his T-shirt and sneakers, getting updates on projects and instructing officials for speedy implementation?
Stalin is a poor administrator, though he may be pro-development. Has stalin in his previous tenure as mayor completed any project with a long-term vision ? I can say jaya completed RWH and veeranam.
Has the DMK ever conducted an investors meet like what Guj and Karn CM's are doing? I can see karuna only in film functions and marriage functions. It is this govt which is taking TN to dark ages by wasting the money for TV sets and free gas scheme.
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Old May 29th, 2010, 07:10 PM   #4951
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Well said vijaysundraram......

yes personality wise Jaya looks more powerful on paper... But when it comes to implementation its MK's son Stalin is more enthusiastic than anyone else... Thats the key.... Its not possible to prevent corruption.... But we shall be happy if atleast few govt schemes are going to reach us... the people of TN - India!!

And coming to debts scenario, not only TN.... most of the fast developing states of India are in the same boat.... Money in the "Kajana" is of no use. Investing the money in the form of infrastructure will certainly bring wonders to the society where its done.

Having said that, I am not denying few good projects done in the previous regime. But it was only done by 1 person at the top. But in the current, there are atleast more than one who are able to deliver. More than that, they have unconditional support from the center. Thats the need of the hour. In this sense, it makes certainly a difference if the current regime is going to continue.

We don't have either a better option!!
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Well said vijaysundraram......

yes personality wise Jaya looks more powerful on paper... But when it comes to implementation its MK's son Stalin is more enthusiastic than anyone else... Thats the key.... Its not possible to prevent corruption.... But we shall be happy if atleast few govt schemes are going to reach us... the people of TN - India!!

And coming to debts scenario, not only TN.... most of the fast developing states of India are in the same boat.... Money in the "Kajana" is of no use. Investing the money in the form of infrastructure will certainly bring wonders to the society where its done.

Having said that, I am not denying few good projects done in the previous regime. But it was only done by 1 person at the top. But in the current, there are atleast more than one who are able to deliver. More than that, they have unconditional support from the center. Thats the need of the hour. In this sense, it makes certainly a difference if the current regime is going to continue.

We don't have either a better option!!
the point is u guys r happy with one way flyovers with no ramps.
Congress will support anyone who has the numbers. The next time, if jaya gets more seats in assembly, congress will be ready to switch sides.
DMK is in power in the centre for the past 11 years. They could have done wonders to TN, but karuna didnt do it and instead lobbied for cabinet ministries to his family. This is what is called family planning ?
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Old May 29th, 2010, 07:32 PM   #4953
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the point is u guys r happy with one way flyovers with no ramps.
Congress will support anyone who has the numbers. The next time, if jaya gets more seats in assembly, congress will be ready to switch sides.
DMK is in power in the centre for the past 11 years. They could have done wonders to TN, but karuna didnt do it and instead lobbied for cabinet ministries to his family. This is what is called family planning ?
The biggest problem with Jaya is she can't handle anyone getting power in center so even if Cong allies with jaya she won't give important cabinet posts to her party men but rather some dummy post (or may beshe learn from karuna that Central ministry is big ATM and appoints sasi's family men there)
In anycase we need same party at center and state, DMK has done some good things, TR baalu converted lot of state highways to NH, TN has 3nd largest NH in the country considering we are 8th largest state.UPA-2 has been disaster this alagiri moron is useless so is Raja and Maran is underplaying.
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the point is u guys r happy with one way flyovers with no ramps.
Congress will support anyone who has the numbers. The next time, if jaya gets more seats in assembly, congress will be ready to switch sides.
DMK is in power in the centre for the past 11 years. They could have done wonders to TN, but karuna didnt do it and instead lobbied for cabinet ministries to his family. This is what is called family planning ?
As if Jaya is gonna build 6 lanes with entry and exit ramps all over chennai.

Ellam orae kuttailae oorunae mattai. She is such arrogant with her own party members and expect everyone to fall on her feet.

Stalin is atleast very approachable and accessible.
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And who ever thinks that Jaya can get Cauvery/Palar/Periyar water must be the biggest joker on the earth!!

And whatsup with Katchtheevu? Why would somebody want a part of another country.
What is it worth? and how will it impact TN's socio economic status or infrastructural growth.

Come on guys, there needs to be limit to this insanity.

Hello..Where the heck are the moderators????
DMK should stop wasting money like sethu samudram, cooumm and concentrate seriously on Tamil Nadus growth.

1. invest money in Building infrastructure(not mini flyovers). ( electricity, roads , water supply, ports, drainage system , metro, railway line to sriperumbudur, share the cost with railways).

not waste the money in tamil meet, cooumm etc.

2. appoint eminent lawyers to represent TN in supreme court for periyar, palar, cauvery. not suppi-kuppi lawyers.

3. stop illegal sand quarrying in Palar and cauvery which is going to AP, kerala , KA.

if they dont take corrective measures people will.
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Cooum river clean up is just a way to make money. It has been in news since 1970s. DMK came to power so many times since 1970, but why is it that it failed to implement ?
Even Stalin while he was the mayor could not do it. Before cleaning the cooum, we need to have funds.. We cant keep on borrowing money from Central govt or from Japan or singapore. It will result in huge loss for the treasury. We need the finance first. Debt is 89000 cr already.

I dont care if stalin makes money out of it as long as the river is conserved.The point is DMK has making attempts for it. Jaya does not even have a plan and will leave the river and the city to rot for ever.


can u please tell me the status of the above mentioned projects ?
Any govt will do it.

They are very well in progress and in track, Checkout the SSC thread about river linking project for updates.


Chennai's mini-flyovers are itself horrible. u want to take them down to western and soutehrn districts. Pathetic!!!

I find the flyovers very helpful in easing traffic. Truth is, Jaya did not even construct those mini-flyovers.


CG has to support for water desalination plants. look at this article and u ll know if jaya wanted desalination plant or not .

http://www.larouchepub.com/other/200...adu_desal.html


The total area is 1500-1800 acres. each country will get around 300 acres. I appreciate the govt in bringing the investment to sriperumbudur.

They havent campainged to the IT companies to invest in chennai itself. How would they do it for other cities. ? This govt failed big time in IT investments

There are numerous newsclips that mentions how govt is campaigning. There was recently one roadshow in Gurgaon, where IT miniter participated. Did Jaya even have an IT minister?

Appreciate the govt, but i am hopeful even jaya would support.

you can dream, but truth is otherwise.


CG has to do this, not the state govt. If karuna's ministers are part of CG then they ll do everything possible to block the funding as they did for the proposed chennai monorail and desalination plants. With no help from the CG, jaya roped in so many IT companies and succesfully completed the veeranama project. But karuna gets time only to lobby for cabinet ministries for his family and doesnt spend time to lobby for a railway line to sriperumbudur. Is this called pro-development ????????

Stalin has no long term vision. Thats why he is constructing so many mini-flyovers and such a small fin city.

My Foot.. Stalin anyday has better vision than Jaya. Jaya's Mono rail plain, and her volte-face sommersault after the defeat in central elections in 2004 showed what a visonaray she was. You have selective amnesia or what??

Man, CG has to do it as this is part of NHAI. Get the facts right.

Yes I know, I also know that DMK has better relations with Center than Jaya and can get things done easier. Thats another reason for me to support them

DMK govt is making announcements like 10k crore for education ? only when the next govt comes to power we can know if they allocated money or not . To implement a mass rail transport system, u need the support of CG. Why is it that karuna is not ready to share the cost for perungudi-pondicherry rail line which willl benefit the IT corridor ? He is more interested in giving free tv sets and attending film functions. I am sure if jaya comes to power, she will be ready to share the cost as she is always interested in IT development.


Are you saying Jaya was not attending film functions and wasting money in non-productive events? Selective amnesia again?
She was in the Govt for 10 years. How many projects was she willing to share with Center?




FOBs with lift are serving no purpose. Check the facts first. IT corridor stinks.
Only development i see in chennai in the past 4 yrs is volvos and other buses. but there is no long term planning. Already the treasury is emptied. Situation ll be worse if they come back to power in 2011. CAG has sent a warning already. What is stalin doing ???


Stalin is a poor administrator, though he may be pro-development. Has stalin in his previous tenure as mayor completed any project with a long-term vision ? I can say jaya completed RWH and veeranam.
Has the DMK ever conducted an investors meet like what Guj and Karn CM's are doing? I can see karuna only in film functions and marriage functions. It is this govt which is taking TN to dark ages by wasting the money for TV sets and free gas scheme.
Stalin, has not becom a CM yet and you talk about his capabilities. We all have seen how Jaya's visions and 10 yrs of rule have helped TN.
And dont get me started again on veeranam and RWH.
Veeranam is a scam
RWH is a people's movement and not an infrastrucutral development. period.
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Cooum river clean up is just a way to make money. It has been in news since 1970s. DMK came to power so many times since 1970, but why is it that it failed to implement ?
Even Stalin while he was the mayor could not do it. Before cleaning the cooum, we need to have funds.. We cant keep on borrowing money from Central govt or from Japan or singapore. It will result in huge loss for the treasury. We need the finance first. Debt is 89000 cr already.

I dont care if stalin makes money out of it as long as the river is conserved.The point is DMK has making attempts for it. Jaya does not even have a plan and will leave the river and the city to rot for ever.
We need funds for living first. Debt is 89,000 cr. What are you saying ?
Why didnt stalin do it when he was the mayor of the city ? he is a poor administrator.

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can u please tell me the status of the above mentioned projects ?
Any govt will do it.

They are very well in progress and in track, Checkout the SSC thread about river linking project for updates.
Then jaya can talk abt water to chennai.

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Chennai's mini-flyovers are itself horrible. u want to take them down to western and soutehrn districts. Pathetic!!!

I find the flyovers very helpful in easing traffic. Truth is, Jaya did not even construct those mini-flyovers.
you seem to be the only person finding those flyovers very helpful. even experts have raised concerns about these flyovers and we have seen so many articles in hindu and express regarding this. answer my question about cenatoph flyover. it was conceived to be a 2-way flyover , but atlast they made it one-way during peak hours. This has only resulted in lesenning the raod width. whats ur answer for this ? So is the case with s.usman road flyover which is totally useless.



CG has to support for water desalination plants. look at this article and u ll know if jaya wanted desalination plant or not .

http://www.larouchepub.com/other/200...adu_desal.html


The total area is 1500-1800 acres. each country will get around 300 acres. I appreciate the govt in bringing the investment to sriperumbudur.

They havent campainged to the IT companies to invest in chennai itself. How would they do it for other cities. ? This govt failed big time in IT investments

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There are numerous newsclips that mentions how govt is campaigning. There was recently one roadshow in Gurgaon, where IT miniter participated. Did Jaya even have an IT minister?.
boss end result ??????? this govt has not done anything for IT. she did a marvellous job.




CG has to do this, not the state govt. If karuna's ministers are part of CG then they ll do everything possible to block the funding as they did for the proposed chennai monorail and desalination plants. With no help from the CG, jaya roped in so many IT companies and succesfully completed the veeranama project. But karuna gets time only to lobby for cabinet ministries for his family and doesnt spend time to lobby for a railway line to sriperumbudur. Is this called pro-development ????????

Stalin has no long term vision. Thats why he is constructing so many mini-flyovers and such a small fin city.

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My Foot.. Stalin anyday has better vision than Jaya. Jaya's Mono rail plain, and her volte-face sommersault after the defeat in central elections in 2004 showed what a visonaray she was. You have selective amnesia or what??
MIND YOUR WORDS!!!!Dont use the "foot" word in a public forum . Dont use unparliamentary words. Dont comment on my mind. U have no rights. Have some decorum when u talk in a public forum.
Answer the questions on stalin's administration on mini flyovers and one long term vision that he had and implemented when he was the mayor.

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Man, CG has to do it as this is part of NHAI. Get the facts right.

Yes I know, I also know that DMK has better relations with Center than Jaya and can get things done easier. Thats another reason for me to support them
Better relations with center will be there only when u have the numbers. remember how lalu was thrown out when he didnt have the numbers in 2009 ? if dmk has good relations why r u not answering my questions on rail line to sriperumbudur and sharing the cost for pondicherry - perungudi line? Did u find jaya giving away free tv sets and wasting the tax payer's money ?



DMK govt is making announcements like 10k crore for education ? only when the next govt comes to power we can know if they allocated money or not . To implement a mass rail transport system, u need the support of CG. Why is it that karuna is not ready to share the cost for perungudi-pondicherry rail line which willl benefit the IT corridor ? He is more interested in giving free tv sets and attending film functions. I am sure if jaya comes to power, she will be ready to share the cost as she is always interested in IT development.

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Are you saying Jaya was not attending film functions and wasting money in non-productive events? Selective amnesia again?
She was in the Govt for 10 years. How many projects was she willing to share with Center?
Tell me the projects which the center had asked her to share ? When the center didnt even support desalination plants because it was initiated by her, u mean that dmk ministers would allow the center to support her ?




FOBs with lift are serving no purpose. Check the facts first. IT corridor stinks.
Only development i see in chennai in the past 4 yrs is volvos and other buses. but there is no long term planning. Already the treasury is emptied. Situation ll be worse if they come back to power in 2011. CAG has sent a warning already. What is stalin doing ???


Stalin is a poor administrator, though he may be pro-development. Has stalin in his previous tenure as mayor completed any project with a long-term vision ? I can say jaya completed RWH and veeranam.
Has the DMK ever conducted an investors meet like what Guj and Karn CM's are doing? I can see karuna only in film functions and marriage functions. It is this govt which is taking TN to dark ages by wasting the money for TV sets and free gas scheme.

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Stalin, has not becom a CM yet and you talk about his capabilities. We all have seen how Jaya's visions and 10 yrs of rule have helped TN.
And dont get me started again on veeranam and RWH.
Veeranam is a scam
RWH is a people's movement and not an infrastrucutral development. period.
U r evasive in answering abt FOBs, IT corridor, mini-flyovers and investors meet .
Veeranam was a big success because of jaya, It was a scam by karuna.
RWH was initiated by the govt and not by the people. It required an iron hand and jaya did it . AP tried to emulate the same but failed in it.

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Old May 30th, 2010, 06:04 AM   #4958
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The biggest problem with Jaya is she can't handle anyone getting power in center so even if Cong allies with jaya she won't give important cabinet posts to her party men but rather some dummy post (or may beshe learn from karuna that Central ministry is big ATM and appoints sasi's family men there)
In anycase we need same party at center and state, DMK has done some good things, TR baalu converted lot of state highways to NH, TN has 3nd largest NH in the country considering we are 8th largest state.UPA-2 has been disaster this alagiri moron is useless so is Raja and Maran is underplaying.
again and again am telling you guys that TR baalu didnt do justice to his job while he was the surface transport minister.NDA govt built roads for 11kms/ day but NHAI, under baalu in 5 yrs built roads at jus 2kms/ day and this is what cost him the job in UPA-2.
Look at the fate of chennai byepass. It is still nt ready while the first phase was partially open in 2001/2002 and completely open in 2005.
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Corpn’s e-governance services a massive hit

6.48 Lakh People Visit Website In 18 Months


Chennai: The e-governance initiatives of the Chennai Corporation to provide a hassle-free system for public welfare services are a hit. As many as 6.48 lakh people visited the local body’s website in the last 18 months, with a majority of them accessing the birth/death events in the online database.
Google Analytics, a free service provider from Google that provides detail statistics about the visitors, reveal that the corporation website www.chennaicorporation.gov.i n has recorded a whopping 6.48 lakh visitors since the launch of online certification in September 2008. “During the period, at least 10 lakh downloads have taken place for birth/death certificates alone,” said Chennai Corporation commissioner Rajesh Lakhoni, commissioner.
The scheme which experienced initial hiccups, with several schools dismissing the certification, despite having facsmile signature of the health officer, has seen a steady rise in the number of visitors in the recent past. In the last one month, 45,219 visitors accessed the web pages. This could be primarily due to hectic school admission schedules and deadlines fixed by educational institutions.
The civic body has made a formal request to the Union and state government departments, including the passport offices and schools, besides embassies of various countries to approve the online certification, a valid legal paper documented by the municipal body, with the available hospital records. “We are happy that all agencies accept the document,” the commissioner said. About 50-odd data entry operators have been engaged on contract to uplink the events at the statistics department in the Ripon Buildings. About 56 lakh births and 22 lakh deaths have been uplinked till date and the numbers are likely to go up in the coming months. “We have completed uplinking birth/death details up to 1936. We will continue to uplink data till 1885,” Lakhoni said, adding that the ‘rectify’ button incorporated on the web page has helped people to correct their names without hassles.
The local bodies of Delhi, Pune, Hyderabad and Bangalore have approached Chennai Corporation for advice on implementing a similar facility. The online certification also help non-resident Indians, who otherwise have to take time off to fly down to the city to get the certificates from corporation offices. According to the Google Analytics report, people from 159 countries have accessed the corporation website till date, with a majority of hits from the United States of America, Singapore, the United Arab Emirates, the United Kingdom, Australia, Hong Kong, Saudi Arabia, France, Qatar, Germany, Canada and Japan.
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Over 10 lakh downloads have been done for birth and death certificates
In the last one month, 45,219 visitors accessed the web pages
About 56 lakh births and 22 lakh deaths have been uplinked till date
People from 159 countries have accessed the website

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Stalin, has not becom a CM yet and you talk about his capabilities. We all have seen how Jaya's visions and 10 yrs of rule have helped TN.
And dont get me started again on veeranam and RWH.
Veeranam is a scam
RWH is a people's movement and not an infrastrucutral development. period.
I think you are very poor in politics. if you are still thinking that MK is the CM you are . Stalin is the CM for the past 1 year. he is taking care of the administration. Alagiri is also waiting to become CM. soon the Party will split because of infighting.

and you r telling Veeranam is a scam. its no use of explaining you the facts. friends lets stop this discussion here. people like kvs are in minority.

Surely good people will come to power soon.
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