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Old July 14th, 2010, 08:18 PM   #1
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ZURICH | Public Transport

As the old thread was closed long time ago. I thought there should be a new one.

Public transport is provided by several companies that work together under the ZVV (Zürcher-Verkehrsverbund ~= Zürich Traffic Union)

Major types of transport:
- S-Bahn (suburb train services)
- Tram
- Bus

Minor types:
-Ships
-1 Cable Car, 2 Funiculars, 1 Cogwheel Rail

S-Bahn network

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Tram & Buses

There are more mus networks for the Agglomeration, but I think they are not as interesting.

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Old July 15th, 2010, 11:36 AM   #2
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Additional S-Bahn map with true distances:


Edit: Tram network with true distances, this map doesn't include the latest extension (Glattalbahn)

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Old July 15th, 2010, 01:18 PM   #3
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The S-Bahn predominantly two kind of double decker trainsets.

Re 450 trainset:

This was introduced with the S-Bahn in 1990, 115 of those trainset where built.
It has 387 seats per set, up to three sets are used per train (some lines only support up to 2)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SBB-CFF-FFS_Re_450







RABe 514
These double decker trainsets were introduced in 2006.
They have 378 seats per set, up to three sets are used per train (some lines only support up to 2)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SBB-CFF-FFS_RABe_514







Other trainsets:

RBe 540
This single deck train is used on peripheral lines and as reserve:


Stadler RABe 526 701–751 (2003), GTW
This trainsets are used on the eastern peripherals:



Former trainsets:
Triebzug RABDe 510
Those trainsets were used on some lines till 2008


Future trainsets:
Stadler Dosto
This double decker trainsets will be introduced in 2011

They have 420 seats and up to 2 trainsets will be used per train.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stadler_DOSTO
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Old July 15th, 2010, 01:45 PM   #4
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Trainsets of the SZU:
The Sihltal Uürich Uetliberg Railway are also part of the S-Bahn network.

The S4 uses mixed trainsets with Re 456 542–545 engines BD 281–285 and B 271–276 coaches


The S10 uses Be 556 531–532 and Be 556 521–528 motor coaches and B 221–224 coaches.
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...rgbahn_524.jpg

Trainsets of the Forchbahn (S18):
The forchbahn uses 1 meter gauge and runs on the tram tracks within the city proper.





Bremgarten Dietikon Bahn (S17):
Another 1 meter gouge rail, but not reaching the city proper



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Old July 15th, 2010, 03:54 PM   #5
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Great thread!

I miss Zurich... Such a beautiful city, and amazing transit system.
Do you have pictures of the Class 460 loco? One of the best locos design by SLM!
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Old July 15th, 2010, 04:30 PM   #6
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You mean the Re 460. It's actually not used in the S-Bahn system but in the Intercity system (black lines in the S-Bahn map).
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Old July 15th, 2010, 06:09 PM   #7
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None of these services are an S-Bahn. They lack frequency and run most of the time in rural areas.
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Old July 15th, 2010, 07:39 PM   #8
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Main trunk lines have at least 4 stopping trains per hour, some up to 6, plus semi-fast and intercity trains. Rural lines are numbered to recognise them.
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S-Bahn network with arrival and departure times:

http://www.zvv.ch/export/sites/defau...ahn_100119.pdf

1 line = 1 train per hour (in both directions)
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The network in future:

http://www.4-teilergaenzungen.ch/fil...netzgrafik.pdf
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Main trunk lines have at least 4 stopping trains per hour, some up to 6, plus semi-fast and intercity trains. Rural lines are numbered to recognise them.
That doesn't warrant to call it S-Bahn. These services are plain Regionalbahnen. Nothing else.
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That doesn't warrant to call it S-Bahn.
It might break your heart, but they are officially called that way.
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Tramsets:

VBZ Be 4/6 Tram 2000

This tram was build between 1976 and 1992, it has 50 seats, 86 with carriage. The modified version has 68 seats.




Modified for low level access.

VBZ Be 5/6 - "Cobra"

The newest tram build between 2001 and 2010, has 96 seats.
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That doesn't warrant to call it S-Bahn. These services are plain Regionalbahnen. Nothing else.
S-bahn doesn't just refer to the Stadtschnellbahn networks in Berlin and Hamburg. It can refer to the Stadt-Regionalbahn networks in the metropolitan areas of Germany, Austria and Germanophone Switzerland.
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A S-Bahn mainly serves for commuters and therefore has a clocked schedule with frequent stops and are integrated in a transport association. The S-Bahn Zurich fulfills that more than many other S-Bahn systems.
Actually, Hamburg and Berlin are rather the exceptions than the rule by spreading not too much into the countryside but serve almost exclusively their respective urban areas. E. g. the area covered by Munich S-Bahn (also with "only" 4-6 trains per hour and direction on some lines) is much more rural than the region around Zurich. Keep in mind that S-Bahn doesn't have to stand for Stadtbahn or Stadtschnellbahn but can also simply mean Schnellbahn!
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Hello. Where are the trolleybuses ?
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A S-Bahn mainly serves for commuters and therefore has a clocked schedule with frequent stops and are integrated in a transport association. The S-Bahn Zurich fulfills that more than many other S-Bahn systems.
Actually, Hamburg and Berlin are rather the exceptions than the rule by spreading not too much into the countryside but serve almost exclusively their respective urban areas. E. g. the area covered by Munich S-Bahn (also with "only" 4-6 trains per hour and direction on some lines) is much more rural than the region around Zurich. Keep in mind that S-Bahn doesn't have to stand for Stadtbahn or Stadtschnellbahn but can also simply mean Schnellbahn!
Exactly what I was thinking.

So basically: Hamburg and Berlin were the first cities to call their rapid transit an S-bahn. They are now the exceptions to the standard definition of what an S-bahn is. The Paris RER is the same; it is the first system to be named so, but it's the exception to the standard definition of an RER (as the RERs in the Francophone part of Switzerland, Algiers and Brussels? are more akin to the Cercanias trains).

But anyway, getting back to Zurich, are there any plans to introduce a U-bahn service to the city 20-30 years down the line?
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A S-Bahn mainly serves for commuters and therefore has a clocked schedule with frequent stops and are integrated in a transport association.
An S-Bahn serves all kind of transport purposes in a city not just commutes. Neither are clocked time tables and integration in tariff union a unique characteristic of an S-Bahn.
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Actually, Hamburg and Berlin are rather the exceptions than the rule by spreading not too much into the countryside but serve almost exclusively their respective urban areas.
Wer hat's erfunden? Berlin is not the exception, it set the rules. The S-Bahn was invented and perfected there.
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An S-Bahn serves all kind of transport purposes in a city not just commutes. Neither are clocked time tables and integration in tariff union a unique characteristic of an S-Bahn.

Wer hat's erfunden? Berlin is not the exception, it set the rules. The S-Bahn was invented and perfected there.
Yes, it set the rules. But every other city in the German-speaking world flouted those rules. Their definition of the S-bahn became commonplace, thus making Berlin's and Hamburg's S-bahn the two exceptions.
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Hello. Where are the trolleybuses ?
Coming, I am finishing the trams first.

Former tram types:
Be 4/6 «Mirage»
This tram has been used between 1968 and 2010. It has 47 seats, a carriage with the same size could be attached.



Be 4/4 «Karpfen»
This type was used from 1940 to 2006. It had 32 seats, a carriage with the same size could be attached.


A picture of historical trams:
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