Road Construction, Plans, Projects, and Photos

[brewerfan386]

I figured since most other regions and sections on SSC have there own dedicated general road thread(s), why can't the Midwest have one.

To start off here are some renderings of the massive US 41/ Interstate conversion project underway in Wisconsin:
from: WisDOT





US 41/45 interchange


The much needed US 41/ WIS 29 free-flow interchange

[brewerfan386]

The always delayed St.Croix River bridge between Stillwater, MN and Houlton, WI.
all are courtesy of MnDOT










latest update:

St. Croix River Crossing Update
June 2010
This St Croix River update will be sent periodically to businesses and residents interested in the St. Croix River Crossing project. Because of the magnitude and complexity of this project being developed between Minnesota and Wisconsin there has been, and will continue to be, numerous issues associated with it. It is important to put these issues into context and understand that they are being addressed and resolved. Most importantly, they have not affected the budget or schedule of the project, which is anticipated to begin in July 2013.

The St. Croix River Crossing Project has drawn some media attention recently for a number of reasons:
1. The judge’s ruling on the Sierra Club lawsuit
2. Load Testing Project in the St. Croix River
3. Relocation of the Shoddy Mill and Warehouse

A lawsuit resulted in Federal Court declaring that the National Park Service (NPS) did not fully explain its approval of the project after their initial opposition to it in 1996. This issue is currently being addressed by the NPS. The case has been appealed to the 8th Circuit Court of Appeals in St. Louis and all of the parties (Sierra Club, U.S. Dept. of Interior, U.S. Dept. of Transportation, National Parks Service, Federal Highway Administration, Minnesota Department of Transportation, and Wisconsin Department of Transportation) will be briefing the matter this summer.

~The Load Testing Project in the St. Croix River was scheduled for spring 2010 to document riverbed stability and provide foundation information to Mn/DOT and Wis DOT bridge designers. The permits for the project were obtained from the U.S. Army Corp of Engineers, Wis/DNR and Mn /DNR in January 2010, and Mn/DOT had established a low-bidder on the project, a local company, Carl Bolander and Sons. However, prior to awarding the contract to start the load-testing project, the Mn/DNR permit was contested. A hearing is scheduled for later this summer. The load testing project is on hold until the permit and the federal legal issues are satisfied.

~One of the mitigation items associated with the St. Croix project includes moving the Shoddy Mill and Warehouse currently located adjacent to the riverbank of the St. Croix. These buildings will be moved to a site in nearby Stillwater to clear the right of way for the new St. Croix River Crossing bridge. The new site to where the buildings are being moved is known as the Stillwater Municipal Barge Facility Property and is being developed as a city park. While the relocation of buildings listed on the National Register is discouraged, the parties involved agreed that relocation is preferable to demolishing the structures. The new setting was chosen because it is similar to the old setting. The future use of the buildings has not been determined by the City of Stillwater at this point. However,
its use as a rest stop on the adjacent bike and pedestrian path is being explored.

More information about the project is available at: http://www.dot.state.mn.us/metro/pro...oix/index.html

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Doyle Wants Commission to Consider Major Hwy. Project
Posted Thursday August 19, 2010 1 week ago

MADISON, Wis. (WTAQ) - For the first time in his 8 years as governor, Jim Doyle wants a state commission to consider a major highway project.
It would expand Interstate-39-90 from 4 lanes to 6 from Madison to the Illinois border. Doyle plans to have the Transportation Projects Commission meet this fall to consider the freeway project and three others.
The commission can only recommend projects that can start within 5 years – and it’s been a long time since that happened. The Interstate expansion could start as early as 2015 if it’s approved.
It would cost a billion dollars in both state and federal funds. Lawmakers and the next governor would have to approve the funding in the next state budget.
The other proposed highway expansions are on 38 from Racine to Oak Creek – 15 from Appleton to New London – and Highways 10 and 441 in the Appleton area.
I-39-90 is a busy road south of Madison, and it already has 6 lanes past the Illinois border. The DOT said 60,000 vehicles a day used the freeway in 2002. It’s projected that 90,000 will use it by 2030.
State Assembly Speaker Mike Sheridan says the expansion would speed up the flow of commerce and tourism into Wisconsin. But an environmental group leader says the state can’t afford it. Steve Hiniker of the One-Thousand-Friends of Wisconsin says there’s a bigger need to fix the state’s current roads and bridges – including Milwaukee’s crumbling Hoan Bridge.

[Coldwake]

You've got to be kidding me. That part of the interstate system is not congested... the hoan carries almost as much traffic as that area does and they want to make the freeway into a surface street. Has anyone ever gotten into a traffic jam down there that wasn't caused by an accident or bad weather?

I mean, come on... 90,000 by 2030? Even if it does build up to that great. But by the time they'll need to rebuild/resurface it is when it might finally be needed. We can wait on things like this, there are more important projects to take care of NOW.

[brewerfan386]

Highway construction unearths old skateboard park



Jerry Steuernagel stands next to the remnants of the Turf Skateboard Park that he built and ran from 1978 to 1996. The discovery of the vintage concrete bowls has sent a bolt through Milwaukee’s skateboarding community. Some skateboarders are even calling for the site to be preserved.

By Bill Glauber of the Journal Sentinel
Aug. 5, 2010 |(65) Comments
Greenfield — Maybe a skateboard park doesn't mean much to you.
But to those who rode up and down the concrete bowls at The Turf back in the late 1970s through the mid-1990s, the park was everything: a shrine, a rite of passage, a place to hone skills like speed and balance, and yes, even a little courage.
So, late last weekend, when news began to circulate that the bowls, long buried beneath a building, had been unearthed by construction crews working by the W. Loomis Road exit off I-894, the information traveled through the local skateboarding community like a bolt of lightning.
This wasn't just some long-lost playground - it was an honest-to-goodness archaeological site for a lot of older skateboarders.
So, skateboarders being skateboarders - even those now in their 30s and 40s - they ignored the "No Trespassing" signs and decided to take matters into their own hands. They ventured out to the site, got together with shovels and literally dug up one of the old bowls Wednesday night as a WITI-TV (Channel 6) news crew looked on.
By dawn Thursday, kids were actually skateboarding on the site. But they soon discovered there was something more powerful than a skateboard.
Try heavy-duty construction equipment.
By midday, The Turf was once again buried, this time beneath broken blocks of concrete.
A portion of the land will be used for new exit and entry ramps onto the freeway. The state Department of Transportation will also use the site as a staging area for the reconstruction of the nearby Mitchell Interchange.
"While we understand this is a unique situation and memorable to a lot of folks, it's dangerous out there," said Emlynn Grisar, the DOT's southeast region's communications manager. "It's culturally interesting. We knew there was a skateboard park - we didn't know it was underground." Yet for those few days when the remnants of the old bowls could be seen, and those few hours when the skateboarders actually rode, The Turf was brought back to life.
"It was known around the world," said Peter DiAntonio, a photographer who spent a lot of his youth at The Turf. "It was incredible, an absolute gem. It changed my life. I just nagged my mom to take me there every single day."
The Turf was the creation of Jerry Steuernagel, a local businessman who was looking around for a new project after he sold off a printing operation.
Skateboarding was gaining in popularity in the 1970s. It was the era when skateboarders rode in what were then called pools, the forerunner of the more acrobatic and daring modern age.
Steuernagel said it cost $380,000 to build the facility, which included locker rooms and a pro shop.
"We had 10,000 members from all over the world," said Steuernagel. "Every kid was a member. That's how I sold it."
He said giving kids membership cards made them feel special and brought them back to the park again and again.
For a few years in the 1980s, the skateboard park gave way to a gentlemen's club called Bell E Buttons. Steuernagel later reopened the facility, but by the mid-1990s, skateboarders were performing high-flying tricks outdoors.
"It is eerie just walking down here," Steuernagel said, as he surveyed the old site. "All the things that went on here, all the memories&ensp.&ensp.&ensp. "
Ryan Bolze, who grew up skateboarding at the park, visited the site, along with his 4-year-old son Calvin.
"It was an organized free-for-all," Bolze said. "If you weren't on your game, you waited in line for 15 minutes. It was a home away from home."
Now, it's a construction site. The state Transportation Department is due to use the land through 2012. After that, it's anticipated that the City of Greenfield will purchase the land, with plans to redevelop the site as a business park.
"Right now, with the construction and the construction staging, we can't guarantee any preservation for that (skateboard park) foundation," said Robert Gutierrez, chief of the southeast freeways design team.
But Gutierrez said he has a keen interest in the old site. He purchased his first skateboard at The Turf.

http://www.jsonline.com/news/milwaukee/100081804.html

[brewerfan386]

Big Changes Expected For I-94 Corridor

MINNEAPOLIS (WCCO) ― Currently, over 90,000 cars are coming over the St. Croix River bridge at Hudson, Wis. every day.

The eastern Twin Cities metropolitan area is trying to plan ahead for a surfeit of new commuters expected to clog the Interstate 94 corridor into Wisconsin.

On Monday, the Gateway Corridor Commission began a study to figure out how best to prepare for more people living along I-94.

"This is the beginning of a long marathon," said Greg Watson, president of the Woodbury Chamber of Commerce.

Currently, over 90,000 cars are coming over the St. Croix River bridge at Hudson, Wis. every day. By the time I-94 reaches St. Paul, that number has ballooned to 150,000 cars.

At the moment, more than 300,000 people live along the so-called Gateway Corridor. But within 20 years, that number is expected to grow by 30 percent.

For the next 18 months, traffic engineers will study the best way to prepare for that growth. The goal of the study is to figure out some alternative form of transportation aside from cars, whether that means adding a new light rail line or bus rapid transit service.

Engineers will also be looking at the viability of adding a commuter rail line, much like the Northstar Line. After the 18-month study, the goal is to have an updated corridor by 2020.

"It's not just something we can jump to overnight. It something that takes time," said Watson.

Though the study's main aim is to stave off potential congestion along the freeway stretch, the commission is also looking at the potential for economic development and sustainability.

"We're in competition, in terms of numbers, with all of the other corridors that have already advanced," said Minnesota Sen. Kathy Saltzman, who is on the commission panel. "It's going to be difficult for us to develop this area if we don't have the transportation and transit options needed to move people in and out."

Watson's own community of Woodbury is preparing for 30,000 more people in the next two decades. The Gateway Corridor Commission will be talking to businesses and homeowners about what's best for everyone.

"I think we're all looking at light rail as being a great opportunity. And certainly, with the redevelopment of Union Depot, that would be really exciting to bring a lot more light rail into the area," said Tami Fagley, of Hartford Financial.

Fagley estimates that roughly half of the workers at the Woodbury-based business commute from Wisconsin.

• More On The Gateway Corridor Project

http://wcco.com/local/gateway.corrid...2.1861932.html

[mgk920]

Originally Posted by brewerfan386

I figured since most other regions and sections on SSC have there own dedicated general road thread(s), why can't the Midwest have one.

To start off here are some renderings of the massive US 41/ Interstate conversion project underway in Wisconsin:
from: WisDOT

(image looking southeastward)

Work on the Witzel Ave roundabouts (Oshkosh, WI) is nearly complete.

Originally Posted by brewerfan386

(image looking northeastward)

These four roundabouts will be a Godsend! Right now, those closely-spaced intersections (using stop-and-go lights) are a traffic disaster, even at night, and it often takes several signal cycles to get through that area during the commuter drive times. This interchange is in Neenah, WI.

Originally Posted by brewerfan386

US 41/45 interchange

(image looking southeastward)

US 45 between Oshkosh and US 10 at Winchester is fast becoming a BUSY highway and traffic trying to turn left from NB US 41 to NB US 45 frequently backs up onto US 41's mainline lanes, especially on Friday afternoons (think: 'northwoods tourism').

Ever since the latest rounds of upgrades to US 10 and US 45 between US 41 and I-39 were completed, it has been shorter and faster by about 10-15 minutes to use US 45 -> US 41 -> US 45 -> US 10 to get from the Zoo interchange in Milwaukee to the I-39/US 10 interchange in Stevens Point than by using the all-interstate routing via Madison and that fact is quickly spreading by word of mouth throughout the Milwaukee and Chicagoland metro areas. This interchange is in Oshkosh.

The direct full-speed free flow ramps for those two turns (NB US 41 -> NB US 45 and SB US 45 -> SB US 41) are badly needed. I would have designed that interchange a bit differently (the current plans are little bit 'messy', IMHO), but this should work.

Originally Posted by brewerfan386

The much needed US 41/ WIS 29 free-flow interchange

(image looking northward)

This is a BIG SHOVEL project. One minor change, that dippy loop on ramp from Shawano Ave to SB US 41 is now a direct, straight ramp. This interchange is in Howard, WI, just a couple of blocks outside of the City of Green Bay.

ALL of those US 41 upgrades are to upgrade the freeway from four lanes to six lanes in the Green Bay and Neenah-Oshkosh areas and should be done by about 2015.

Mike

[mgk920]

Originally Posted by brewerfan386

LINK

The proposed WI 15 work is to add a four-lane bypass of Hortonville and to extend the four lanes from the current end of the four lanes in Greenville Twp. to Hortonville and from Hortonville to the end of WI 15 at US 45 in New London. WisDOT is studying the use of roundabouts at both ends of the Hortonville bypass and at other various intersections along the way. All of WI 15 is an über-busy commuter route in the Fox Valley.

The US 10/WI 441 work would upgrade and complete its interchange at US 41 (right now, two moves are missing from it, see:
http://maps.google.com/?ie=UTF8&ll=4...87891&t=k&z=14
for an overview of the area), build a parallel bridge across adjacent Little Lake Butte des Morts, broaden the 'S' curves east of the bridge to allow full freeway speed and upgrade the freeway from US 41 to at least Oneida St in Appleton to six lanes. This would correct the built-on-the-cheap heritage of this part of the Wisconsin highway network - right now US 10 is operating in the 60K-70K AADT range across that narrow four-lane (no shoulders) bridge ('LOS C-D' on most weekdays).

Mike

[araman0]

That US41 / 29 interchange is a monster! I don't recall seeing a highway with as many lanes anywhere else in the state of Wisconsin. Which of course begs the question, are that many lanes really necessary?

[mgk920]

Originally Posted by araman0

That US41 / 29 interchange is a monster! I don't recall seeing a highway with as many lanes anywhere else in the state of Wisconsin. Which of course begs the question, are that many lanes really necessary?

Lots of traffic and a couple of closely-spaced important street interchanges (Mason St/WI 54 and Lombardi Ave) just to the south.

Mike

[Milwaukee, WY]

Originally Posted by araman0

That US41 / 29 interchange is a monster! I don't recall seeing a highway with as many lanes anywhere else in the state of Wisconsin. Which of course begs the question, are that many lanes really necessary?

Take a look at the maps for the new Mitchell Interchange in Milwaukee.

[Jschmuck]

That US41 / 29 interchange is a monster! I don't recall seeing a highway with as many lanes anywhere else in the state of Wisconsin. Which of course begs the question, are that many lanes really necessary?

i agree...i have my own personal idea of how the area could be fixed (keeping the 29/41 interchange freeflow)

but with this current plan, we could easily get by with removing the left-most lane of the collector-distributor road northbound, and the right-most lane in the southbound collector-distributor road...or in simpler words, remove one lane in each of the collector-distributor roads.

[brewerfan386]

Chicago-Kansas City Expressway a reality after six-decade effort

By DOUG WILSON
Herald-Whig Senior Writer

The long-envisioned Chicago-Kansas City Expressway is now officially established as a new national transportation corridor.
A joint resolution approved by the Illinois House and Senate:
* Officially recognizes the corridor.
* Identifies the routes that form the Illinois portion of the C-KC.
* Authorizes a C-KC logo.
* Declares Route 110 to be an additional common designation for the routes that form the corridor.
* Directs that signs with the Route 110 and C-KC logo be installed along the corridor to assist motorists and promote marketing efforts.
Transportation departments in Illinois and Missouri will begin erecting C-KC signs along the length of the corridor this fall after the last segment is opened to traffic in July.
That segment -- 52 miles of U.S. 36 between Hannibal and Macon -- will be dedicated in ceremonies July 10, although work will not be completed until later in the month.
The Tri-State Development Summit has mailed a portfolio of information about the C-KC to 400 civic and business leaders in communities served by the corridor. The Summit notes that the corridor will bring tremendous economic benefit to communities along the route, and that those benefits will multiply if communities work together to promote the advantages of the corridor as an efficient, free-flowing transportation connection.
The Route 110 designation and logo will help to achieve that goal.
"We at the Illinois Department of Transportation are thrilled that a common route designation for the Chicago-Kansas City Expressway has been approved," Illinois Transportation Secretary Gary Hannig said.
"We believe this designation for the C-KC will make it much easier for motorists and commercial carriers to utilize an efficient and valuable four-lane route between these two major Midwestern urban areas."
Kevin Keith, acting director of the Missouri Department of Transportation, welcomed the C-KC as well as construction on the final four-lane upgrade of U.S. 36 in Missouri.
"This corridor will improve traffic flow, increase freight movement and foster economic growth for northern Missouri," Keith said.
Completion of the final four-lane segment was made possible when residents of Macon, Monroe, Marion and Shelby counties agreed in August 2005 to fund half of the construction cost imposing a half-cent sales tax upon themselves for up to 15 years.
Thomas A. Oakley of the Tri-State Summit said the C-KC was first envisioned in the early 1950s, even before the first mile of interstate highway had been built.
"I'm not certain any of us can appreciate the enormity of having at last competed the C-KC and how big this route designation could be. It's huge," Oakley said.
The July 10 ceremonies not only mark a milestone for Missourians who have worked hard to achieve this benchmark.
When that final segment opens, it will complete a Tri-State transportation network that includes two other national corridors: U.S. 36/I-72 from Indiana across Illinois and Missouri to Kansas, and the C-KC. Those two corridors and the Avenue of the Saints from St. Louis to St. Paul will intersect with each other at Hannibal.
Missouri transportation and community development advocates believe the completion of U.S. 36 in Missouri and the three-corridor network will ignite an economic resurgence. U.S. Census counts have long shown that communities along four-lane highways have been growing while those with only two-lane access seldom show population increases.
Rising population generally occurs in tandem with jobs growth.
Victor Mendez, administrator of the Federal Highway Administration, said common route designations "invite additional economic benefits for nearby communities."
John Smith, the mayor of Shelbina, Mo., already has seen increased truck traffic along U.S. 36 during recent years while the 52 miles of two-lane highway between Hannibal and Macon has been upgraded to four lanes.
Smith said the C-KC designation and the four-lane highway will boost the local economy. In fact, Smith said, Ayers Oil Co., is considering construction of a truck stop at Shelbina to serve all the truckers now using the route.
"I think we'll take a big load off of I-70," Smith said.
Some truckers traveling between Chicago and Kansas City currently take I-70 between Kansas City and St. Louis and I-55 between Chicago and St. Louis. However, I-70 has become rough and crowded and will require billions of dollars in repairs or expansions in coming years. Sections of I-55 in Illinois also are both crowded and deteriorating, which may convince some travelers or truckers to try the new route.
A northern route between Chicago and Kansas City has involved I-80 across Illinois and most of Iowa, to I-35. However, extensive construction on I-35 this year has limited traffic to a single lane in some places. Motorists often face delays as traffic from opposing directions takes turns through construction zones.
Word of those delays has spread to freight haulers, who are looking for alternatives.
Chris Merrett, director of the Illinois Institute of Rural Affairs in Macomb, said the C-KC designation will give the region a chance to market both the route and the communities along it.
Merrett said in-car GPS systems and smart phones are in widespread use. Those systems generally show only the travel distance and estimated travel time. That will give supporters of the C-KC a new goal.
"The key may be how well advocates of the C-KC Expressway can link their real world marketing -- such as new signs -- with the digital world of online traveling information and smart phone" applications, Merrett said.
"This may mean working even more with all communities along the route to get them to tout their existence ... maybe an abundance of amenities, marketed collectively, can offset any real or perceived travel time" differences, Merrett said.

http://www.whig.com/story/news/C-KC-063010

[Jschmuck]

well, as an over-the-road truck driver like myself, I recently had to go from KC to Chicago, and in my work assignment, my fuel solution was to fill up in Rochelle, IL (junction of I-39/I-88) thus I went I-35 north to I-80 east to I-88. (damn run-on sentences, never been able to defeat em) what im trying to say is we prefer the most direct and EASY route, (direct meaning straight line, easy meaning least amount of stopsigns/stop lights) Besides that, the interstates that are out there and already built, have the truckstops and rest areas for us to legally park to match our schedules. I highly doubt i will ever take this indirect route that is described in this article above for those reasons...i will always stick with I-35 through Iowa to I-80 then I-88 if/when i will ever travel that direction again, or I-70 to I-55.

If my day were to legally end half way in between KC and Chicago, i would be stranded without a legal place to park somewhere in eastern Missouri or western illinois.

(side note) i thought it was funny for the article to mention a construction project on I-35 being reduced to a single lane each way. So flippin what, what else is new, i do believe that same type of construction would have to occur on this "new corridor" over time.

lol, i guess what im REALLY trying to get at is, by looking at that above map, the "new corridor" highway does NOT look very direct for me and thus is not a huge improvement to what is already out there for routes.

[Jschmuck]

here is an old plan for Milwaukee (plan is no more), the legend explains it all;





courtesy of http://www.wisconsinhighways.org/index.html

[brewerfan386]

The Stadium Freeway should have been built/ completed between WIS 145 and I-894.
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I-35W plan would ease rush hour in Minneapolis

Hennepin County is applying for $16 million federal grant to build a link from downtown Minneapolis to the university area in the hope of unclogging Washington Avenue and other feeder streets.
By STEVE BRANDT, Star Tribune
Last update: August 20, 2010 - 11:46 PM


Minneapolis and Hennepin County want to construct what would be the first new downtown freeway link in many years, in the hope of unclogging Washington Avenue and other feeder streets near Interstate 35W.
The county, with city support made official by a City Council vote Friday, wants to connect S. 4th Street to northbound 35W. That would offer drivers an alternative to rush-hour lines several blocks long of vehicles waiting to make a left turn onto 35W. "Washington Avenue is a mess," Hennepin County Commissioner Peter McLaughlin said.
The idea was conceived several years ago in city transportation planning. It got a boost when state highway officials asked the city what it wanted on the new 35W bridge, which includes space for the proposed link. The county is the lead agency because Washington Avenue is a county road.
The project could start in 2012 with federal aid, according to Peter Lemke, who is managing the county's grant request. Otherwise, neither the county nor the city nor the state, the project's three partners, have it in their spending plans.
The $20 million project also would include space for pedestrians on two bridges, and an auxiliary lane on northbound 35W north of the river bridge, to reduce congestion near the University of Minnesota.
The county is applying for $16 million from a highly competitive special federal grant program that's outside normal transportation funding to states. If that fails, according to McLaughlin, the county, city and state have agreed to split the cost equally. The City Council voted to support the application on Friday.
The proposal includes some features intended to make it more attractive in the federal competition. The Washington Avenue bridge over 35W would be widened to accommodate bike lanes and wider sidewalks for pedestrians. Another bridge two blocks east on Cedar Avenue would be widened to handle foot traffic to the planned Central Corridor light-rail station below.
The light-rail plans mean changes for another portion of the sprawling roadway system between the Metrodome and Cedar-Riverside. A ramp from downtown on 4th connecting to Cedar Avenue would be closed, and a westbound ramp from Cedar now running to downtown would become a two-way street. That's because the new light-rail route needs to cross the former ramp to connect with the Hiawatha Line.
Mayor R.T. Rybak and Sandra Colvin Roy, who chairs the council's transportation panel, say they'd like to see some excess highway acreage redeveloped in the no man's land between downtown and Cedar-Riverside.
But the marquee part of the proposal is adding a bypass to congestion on Washington. Two lanes from 4th Street would feed the ramp, which would be controlled by a traffic signal because it would cross the Cedar-downtown connection. The West Bank Community Coalition voted to support the proposal, according to city planners.
The extra lane on 35W between the new bridge and Stinson Boulevard exit matches a lane built into the bridge. Some cars frustrated by long waits on Washington cross to the university side of the river on the 10th Avenue bridge, further clogging rush-hour volume on SE. University Avenue and SE. 4th Street.
The county earlier applied for federal help in a competition for more money, but the project didn't have formal city support. The current proposal adds the pedestrian and bike improvements in an effort to make it more competitive.

http://www.startribune.com/local/101...EP7vDEh7P:DiUs

[=dba=Ronin]

Originally Posted by Jschmuck

here is an old plan for Milwaukee (plan is no more), the legend explains it all;





courtesy of http://www.wisconsinhighways.org/index.html

Doh! That Belt Freeway would have been fabulous for us northern suburbian types!

[Rogee]

Originally Posted by brewerfan386

The Stadium Freeway should have been built/ completed between WIS 145 and I-894.

I'm glad it wasn't built. The freeway would have gone right over Jackson Park and Alverno College (and my house!).

Besides, do we really need a jumbled mess of freeways so close to each other? It would have looked like Minneapolis.

[Jesse276]

Originally Posted by =dba=Ronin

Doh! That Belt Freeway would have been fabulous for us northern suburbian types!

Who would have paid for it?

[Milwaukee, WY]

Originally Posted by Rogee

I'm glad it wasn't built. The freeway would have gone right over Jackson Park and Alverno College (and my house!).

Same here! The house I grew up in is on 44th & Ohio... We would have had a really pointless freeway in our front yard. I'm really glad that segment never materialized beyond that interchange near Loomis Rd.