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Old October 26th, 2010, 02:39 PM   #4181
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-ola ta erga ke panepistimia ginounta leukwsia giati etsi apofasisan oi laukwsiates.to tepak exarhis eprepe na piene allou.mono oti ethelan na to kamun ke afto leukwsia lei pola.ti sxoli kalon texnwn as tin kamun larnaka i pafo,kalitera apo na stiloun merikous fitites stin xameni stous metanastes palia leukwsia(piene ena giro twra ke de)
-i lemesos den ine stin akra tou nisiou(me to status quo),en i moni poli me ises apostasis apo nic/paf/lar en i nicosia en stin akri makria pou pafo.ke ara diskoleui polous aman en monomeres stin leukwsia i ipiresies tou kratous ke nosileutikes iperesies...
H lemesos den ine opos to les re file enen to kento tis kiprou kai den tha gini pote edo diakrino kai ligo komplex den ksero mpori na ime lathos.
H larnaka en 20 lepta pou tin lefkosia h amoxostos 40 h lemeso 45.\
h lemesos pou tin larnaka en 30 lepta pou tin amoxosto 1.30 ora kai pou tin lefkosia 45 lepta sostos?
ara h lefkosia opos kai nato paris pale ikanopia perisotero kosmo se pososto pale apo oti h lemesos kame kai tin prosthesi apo tin lista pou ekame o filos apo pano kai tha dis.
Episis h Lefkosia kati pou ksixanete ine mirasmeni poli kai kathimerina erkounte ite to theloume ite oxi arketi tourkokiprioi kai doulevoun poda tzinous pou tous valete enen anthropoi? hte mas aresi ite oxi touti en h pragmatikotita h Lefkosia ine h proteusa ine to kentro tis kiprou ti na kamoume.
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Old October 26th, 2010, 02:41 PM   #4182
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Giati ti londino en pio aneptigmeno pou to manchester? giati h Sofia en pio aneptigmeni pou tin Filipoupoli? giati to Boucouresti en pio aneptigmeno apo tin klouz kai to brasov? giati h athina en pio aneptigmeni apo tin thesaloniki? h Romh apo tin Napoli ......liga paradigmata en arketa.
Fantazomai ennoeis pio MEGALO kai oxi pio ANEPTYGMENO. H texnologia / anaptyksi einai i idia stin Romi me to Milano kai sto Londino me to Manchester (men sou pw oti i Manchester kai Milano exoun kalyteres omades podosfairou pou - distixws - en isxyei gia tin Kypro). An ennoeis oikonomika exeis lathos dioti den isxyei panta - stin Germania oikonomiko kentro einai to Amvourgo kai i Fragkfourti kai stin Italia einai to Milano.


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An kapia poli adikiete perisotero pantos ine h Larnaka pou mpori na gini h pio orea poli stin Kipro me diafora. Exi orea thalasa ine nea poli kai exi mellon ftani na ginoun ta sosta erga, an ginoun pantos tha ine h noumero 1 paraliaki poli kata tin gnomi mou.
OK dame esheis dikaio alla gia ena periergo logo en akouete (peran orismenon ekseresewn) kamia foni diamartyrias apo tin Larnaka, fenetai en polla ilaroi athropoi oi Larnakeis OR polla anektikoi. Pantws ama parei ta panw tis symfonw oti eshei poly mellon (marina Lernakas - ekseretika ta sxedia)
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Old October 26th, 2010, 02:44 PM   #4183
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Pantos kai H lefkosia exi ksenous polous pou doulefkooun poda se diafores eteries kai milo ksenous kalous plousious. Dame stin gitonia mo pantos imaste ligo perisoteroi oi kipreoi exoume italous germanous polonous kai eglezous dame stin gitonia mou. Epolinan genika oi ksenoi monimoi katikoi Kiprou pantou se olis tis polis.
Oso afora ta meridia i Lefkosia san protevousa nomizo dikeoute kati parapano apo tis ipolipes polis.
Giati ti londino en pio aneptigmeno pou to manchester? giati h Sofia en pio aneptigmeni pou tin Filipoupoli? giati to Boucouresti en pio aneptigmeno apo tin klouz kai to brasov? giati h athina en pio aneptigmeni apo tin thesaloniki? h Romh apo tin Napoli ......liga paradigmata en arketa.
An kapia poli adikiete perisotero pantos ine h Larnaka pou mpori na gini h pio orea poli stin Kipro me diafora. Exi orea thalasa ine nea poli kai exi mellon ftani na ginoun ta sosta erga, an ginoun pantos tha ine h noumero 1 paraliaki poli kata tin gnomi mou.
giati i nea york/san francisco en kalitera apo washington?
barcelona,hong kong,konstantinoupoli,dubai?
en simenio tpt an en mia poli en proteuousa,nomizo ke i lemesos ke i larnaka exun tis dinatotites twra na ginoun kaliteres apo leukwsia.
prin(xsexnoun poloi)pou itan mono to Rik san kanali,den ixame elutheri agora ke i apofasis gia erga,pou tha pan ta pramata etc epernountan apo to kratos mono,ekinitoun i leukwsia ke oi ales polis itan san support.eno an ixan iseseukeries thatan poli kaliteres apo twra...ala epidi ekinountan ola ta kratika ke ipiresies etc epienan ke polio na doulepsoun ke leukwsia(dimosia ipiresia),ke en pos eni twra i katastasi...
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Episis h Lefkosia kati pou ksixanete ine mirasmeni poli kai kathimerina erkounte ite to theloume ite oxi arketi tourkokiprioi kai doulevoun poda tzinous pou tous valete enen anthropoi? hte mas aresi ite oxi touti en h pragmatikotita h Lefkosia ine h proteusa ine to kentro tis kiprou ti na kamoume.
Ma kala - esy ekatalaves oti zita kamia alli poli na ginei protevousa ?

Oso gia to allo me tous Tourkokyprious, men anoigeis etsi themata dioti ekatantisame tritis katigorias oi ypolipoi. Proti katigoria Tourkokyprioi, defteri katigoria oi politikoi prosfyges (px athigganoi) kai meta emeis oi ypoloipoi pou plironoume tous forous mas kanonika. Eshei omws allo forum damesa an theleis na to sizitisoume....
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Old October 26th, 2010, 02:48 PM   #4185
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OK dame esheis dikaio alla gia ena periergo logo en akouete (peran orismenon ekseresewn) kamia foni diamartyrias apo tin Larnaka, fenetai en polla ilaroi athropoi oi Larnakeis OR polla anektikoi. Pantws ama parei ta panw tis symfonw oti eshei poly mellon (marina Lernakas - ekseretika ta sxedia)
i marina tis larnakas ekatsan lio kato ta sxedia ke en than ke to kirio epivatiko(kapio xseri parapano)
na sasti ke o dromo meta pou tis finikooudes,ala den exi tin plithismo,tin fimi os business proorismos,i ena panepistimio gia na gini super poli...den to vlepo twra ke ennoite mpori na exw megalo lathos
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Old October 26th, 2010, 02:51 PM   #4186
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na parakaloun oi leukwsiates na lithi to kipiako...(dite mprosta 5-10 xronia)
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Old October 26th, 2010, 02:57 PM   #4187
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oulloi mas parakaloume na lythei to Kypriako alla xwris na xreiastei na mas pidiksoun kai apo panw - lysi tou provlimatos theloume, oxi kleisimo.
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Old October 26th, 2010, 03:01 PM   #4188
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Ma kala - esy ekatalaves oti zita kamia alli poli na ginei protevousa ?

Oso gia to allo me tous Tourkokyprious, men anoigeis etsi themata dioti ekatantisame tritis katigorias oi ypolipoi. Proti katigoria Tourkokyprioi, defteri katigoria oi politikoi prosfyges (px athigganoi) kai meta emeis oi ypoloipoi pou plironoume tous forous mas kanonika. Eshei omws allo forum damesa an theleis na to sizitisoume....
Oxi den karalava oti theli alli poli na gini protevousa aplos sou leo poso kosmo eksipireti h Lefkosia sta ipolipa oti imatse tritis epilogis simfono mazi sou 100%
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giati i nea york/san francisco en kalitera apo washington?
barcelona,hong kong,konstantinoupoli,dubai?
en simenio tpt an en mia poli en proteuousa,nomizo ke i lemesos ke i larnaka exun tis dinatotites twra na ginoun kaliteres apo leukwsia.
prin(xsexnoun poloi)pou itan mono to Rik san kanali,den ixame elutheri agora ke i apofasis gia erga,pou tha pan ta pramata etc epernountan apo to kratos mono,ekinitoun i leukwsia ke oi ales polis itan san support.eno an ixan iseseukeries thatan poli kaliteres apo twra...ala epidi ekinountan ola ta kratika ke ipiresies etc epienan ke polio na doulepsoun ke leukwsia(dimosia ipiresia),ke en pos eni twra i katastasi...
Distixos h polis pou mou evales ine h mones ekseresis ston kosmo me kapies diafores omos.
Hong kong ine ksexoristo kratidio pleon.
Dubai potte den ita pou pano apo to abu dhabi.
Barcelona h anthropoi den niothoun kan ispanoi nomizo en gnosta touta ine KATALANoi kai h kostantinoupoli aman eshis mouxti topo pou ton klefkis pou mia xora kai ton epikizis kamnis oti thes
Kai h Romi en h no1 stin italia giamena pantos to milano en gia fashion parpanao alla tin Romi den tin perna file. Kai h Toscana Torina en kalitera pou milano an epies. Anyway elpizo na ekatalaves to point mo oti ta oikonomika kentra tis kathe xoras ine stis protevouses poutziame fefkoun oi parapano apofasis. ekseresis ston kanona panta iparxoun.
Ego ime kipreos mesa se mia xora koukida stin mesogio pou oti kali anaptiksi gini mporo na ti apolafso opou kai na ine giati 2 ores fakkas tin Kipro giro kai h Kipros aniki se olous
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Distixos h polis pou mou evales ine h mones ekseresis ston kosmo me kapies diafores omos.
Hong kong ine ksexoristo kratidio pleon.
Dubai potte den ita pou pano apo to abu dhabi.
Barcelona h anthropoi den niothoun kan ispanoi nomizo en gnosta touta ine KATALANoi kai h kostantinoupoli aman eshis mouxti topo pou ton klefkis pou mia xora kai ton epikizis kamnis oti thes
Kai h Romi en h no1 stin italia giamena pantos to milano en gia fashion parpanao alla tin Romi den tin perna file. Kai h Toscana Torina en kalitera pou milano an epies. Anyway elpizo na ekatalaves to point mo oti ta oikonomika kentra tis kathe xoras ine stis protevouses poutziame fefkoun oi parapano apofasis. ekseresis ston kanona panta iparxoun.
Ego ime kipreos mesa se mia xora koukida stin mesogio pou oti kali anaptiksi gini mporo na ti apolafso opou kai na ine giati 2 ores fakkas tin Kipro giro kai h Kipros aniki se olous
Filika file .
file ke i lemessos kratidio tha ine
agree ke gia to telos...
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file ke i lemessos kratidio tha ine
agree ke gia to telos...
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egw nomizw oti i lefkwsia epathen tin pou ti dipsa tis na ta ehei ola ekei.vlepe dimosies ipiresies kai panepistimia.e en logiko na pnigei stin kinisi.alla kala na pathoun pou ta thelan ola oi dimarhoi twra vouroun na lysoun ta alyta provlimata.i lemesos prepei na prosexei poly an den thelei na ehei tin tyhi tis lefkwsias oson afora to panepistimio otan se 5 6 hronia ftasei tous 7 hiliades foithtes prepei na ehei idi liseis gia na men pnigei to kentro.enne pandos tyheo pou megales eteries px trapeza kiprou pou xerw fernoun paggypries ipiresies tous pou ti lefkwsia sti lemeso.
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egw nomizw oti i lefkwsia epathen tin pou ti dipsa tis na ta ehei ola ekei.vlepe dimosies ipiresies kai panepistimia.e en logiko na pnigei stin kinisi.alla kala na pathoun pou ta thelan ola oi dimarhoi twra vouroun na lysoun ta alyta provlimata.i lemesos prepei na prosexei poly an den thelei na ehei tin tyhi tis lefkwsias oson afora to panepistimio otan se 5 6 hronia ftasei tous 7 hiliades foithtes prepei na ehei idi liseis gia na men pnigei to kentro.enne pandos tyheo pou megales eteries px trapeza kiprou pou xerw fernoun paggypries ipiresies tous pou ti lefkwsia sti lemeso.
auto pou les den stekei katholou, o logos pou i lefkosia en pnimeni stin kinisi einai dioti yparxei mono mia e3odos apo tin poli logo tis eisvolis, an! itan eleytheri i poli sigouraoute kikloforiako tha ypirxe oute tpt apo oti exoume simera dioti i poli tha itan aneptigmeni perimetrika me 6 e3odous kai pollous parallilous afou to sistima mias strogkilis polis leitourga kalitera apo otidipote allo.

oso gia to oti efige to UCY apo to kentro tis polis itan logo elipsis xorou stin perioxi ekei gia epektasi kai oxi tis kinisis toso.

"egw nomizw oti i lefkwsia epathen tin pou ti dipsa tis na ta ehei ola ekei." oso gia auto file nomizo en pellares tis xalimas. an milas gia ta kivernitika ktiria, den thelo na mbo pali stin diadikasia na to analio, alla ola ta krath exoun ta dihkitika tous kentra stin proteuousa gia kalitero sintonismo. min 3exnas i poli eixe kai aerodromio kai i misi tis ektasi en katexomeni, kai yparxoun kai arketoi prosfiges, parapano apo kathe alli poli.

kai i kinisi ofilete dioti oi parapano topikes epixirisis tis kyprou vriskonte edw, isos to 70%

telika re Taso aporo mes touton ton topo pios kleei, afou laleite exeita ola i Lefkosia, en oi alles poleis pou kleounte dld, dioti exoun touti tin entiposi...

pou to klama eklisame to ATI kai ekamame to TEPAK
pou to klama na kamoume ena deytero proedriko kapou allou
pou to klama na kamou 1 mouseio se kathe poli
pou to klama na kamoume 1 ypourgeia pou to kathena se kathe poli

apla gia na ikanopihthoun oi emmones kapion.

mania re me ta kivernitika, e ti ta thelete? na mbeite na doulepsete mesa? i en tpt landmarks? afou i kivernisi enikiazi ta oulla ta ktiria pou exei sxedo. an e gia douleia re kopelia ti na sas pw, pantos kivernitikos den isoute me lefkosiati afou oi parapano idiotikes eteries en dakato + tis trapezes, 50-100.000 autokinita mbenoun kathe mera mesa stin poli mono apo tin Lemesou gia na doulepsoun, den 3ero posoi en oi kivernitikoi alla sioura en kambosoi.

i trapeza kyprou agapite an epire to kentro karton jikato den simenei kai tpt, apla anigi nees thesis ergasias se mia poli pou prin apo 10 xronia anthrwpino dinamiko den eixe dioti asxolountan mono me ton tourismo. den einai logo kinisis pou efie, olo arloumbes akouo simera
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to oti mehri kai to tmima alieias en sti lefkwsia ta leei ola gia ti politiki tosa hronia.na dwsw ena allo paradeigma.an apofasizetoun na ine i edra tis kentrikis evrwpaikis trapezas stio kipro en nomizw na amfivalei kapios oti tha epilegotan i lefkwsia .sti germani omws epileksan ti frankfourti kai oxi tin prwtevousa.ola ta kivernitika ktiria pou les kai ta panepistimia eginan meta thn eisvoli opote itan se olous gnwsto oti i lefkwsia eihe mia eisodo/exodo
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to oti mehri kai to tmima alieias en sti lefkwsia ta leei ola gia ti politiki tosa hronia.na dwsw ena allo paradeigma.an apofasizetoun na ine i edra tis kentrikis evrwpaikis trapezas stio kipro en nomizw na amfivalei kapios oti tha epilegotan i lefkwsia .sti germani omws epileksan ti frankfourti kai oxi tin prwtevousa.ola ta kivernitika ktiria pou les kai ta panepistimia eginan meta thn eisvoli opote itan se olous gnwsto oti i lefkwsia eihe mia eisodo/exodo
kala pios eipe oti to tmima alieias prepei na se paraliaki poli dld? afou en tmima kapiou ypourgeiou, jiame en stelexomeno to prosopiko. i lefkosia en to kentro tou nhsiou kai ekei prepei na einai na e3ipireta oles tis polis ane3eretos. an itan se alli paraliaki poli sigoura kapioi tha eynoousan tin poli tous, opos kai i arxh limenon pou en lemeso kai kamni erga mono lemeso kai tin Larnaka, kai pafo tin exei grammeni sta @@ tis, kai eidame tin katatgkia tous pou itan makria apo elegxous, ekaman oti ithelan kai tora zimioni i poli.

e kala re pou eprepe na itan i kentriki trapeza? makria pou ta HQ ton trapezwn? makria pou to ypourgeio oikonomikon? e pedkia elpizo na men sovaromilate dld. mia trapeza itan asila lemesinon kai tin edra tis ekatsan tin lefkosia, kai meta e3epoulisantin stin Marfin, kanonika i Laiki eprepe na eixe edra Lemeso... alla epile3an lefkosia, den einai thema an eprepe na itan lemeso i lefkosia, ekrinan oti stin Lefkosia itan pio polla pros ofelos tous.

sti germania sigoura oi sigkiries tou psyxrou polemou tous anagkasan na valoun tin kentriki trapeza ekei, i mallon kati allo. alla i lefkosia oute berolino einai se anapti3i oute i lemesos frankfourti.

apo oti fenete i lefkosia exei na antimetopisi kai tetiou eidous provlimata "efarpa3is" proterimaton ektos apo auta pou tis pire i eisvoli. okay piasteta ola kai figame oloi, na minoun mono spidkia dame kai oi dromoi.

to ena exete provlima pou jiame to allo exete provlima, stin ousia exete me ola ama ta prosthesoume.
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andrea ok me tis apopsis su ala check to "i lefkosia en to kentro tou nhsiou"
an den lithi to kipriako ke gini taivanopioisi ke anexartites perioxes apo emas ta katexomena than megalo to problem tis leukwsias...en to vlepis dld?
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andrea ok me tis apopsis su ala check to "i lefkosia en to kentro tou nhsiou"
an den lithi to kipriako ke gini taivanopioisi ke anexartites perioxes apo emas ta katexomena than megalo to problem tis leukwsias...en to vlepis dld?
fisika kai to vlepw, kai miso otan oi dikoi mas anthrwpoi to proothoun auto to montelo me emmeso tropo ypovathmizontas tin simantikotita tis polis, apla gia na ikanopihsoun prosopikes tous emmones. i taivanopioisi en ena senario apomakrismeno apo tin alli pros to paron kai apexei polla milia makria kai prepei kapios na polla vlakas gia na mas katali3i ekei.

kai se kamia periptosi tha dexthoun 350xil tin Lefkosia na min einai prwteuousa, dld na tous 3epoulisoun kai autous me mia lisi axari. sigoura tha arxisi polemos, esto emfilios i megales diadilosis me aimatira episodia. auti einai i gnomi mou. o fanatismos apo tis apo edw pleyres einai arketa pio entonos dioti o kosmos to zei kathimerina, einai sanna pezis me ti fotia.

o kosmos en siopilos tora, alla se periptosi axaris lisis kai adikis gia toses xiliades tha mas pari polla xronia piso logo ton gegonoton pou tha akolouthisoun.
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i leukwsia tha ine proteuousa(opws omws i engomi en theli tou dimosious en tha theli kanenas toses ipiresies na tou kouvalithoun se aloi poli!!!)
to problem en na men ginoun oi ales polis oi vitrines tis xwras,ke i leukwsia to backroom pou en ta kivotia petaxoumena ke ginounte oi poles doulies
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i leukwsia tha ine proteuousa(opws omws i engomi en theli tou dimosious en tha theli kanenas toses ipiresies na tou kouvalithoun se aloi poli!!!)
to problem en na men ginoun oi ales polis oi vitrines tis xwras,ke i leukwsia to backroom pou en ta kivotia petaxoumena ke ginounte oi poles doulies
i lisi tha einai epistrofi tis ammoxwstou, apostratikopihsh tis lefkosias kai paradosi tis morfou kai tis mesaorias. ta ypolipa tha minoun se autous distixos me mia omospondi lisi. auto to scenario pezete. to thema den einai ti epistrefete alla ti politiko status tha exoume kai pia i dinami tis diki mas pleyras, na min katali3oume ypodouloi neon sintagmaton.

ependisis tha erthoun apo pantou se periptosi lisis, idios gia tin ammoxwsto, kerynia kai lefkosia.

anw arketa me auta, exo kapia nea gia kapia erga tha sas ta grapso.
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