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Old October 24th, 2010, 12:54 PM   #41
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Ukrainian railways is even badder then romanians
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Old October 24th, 2010, 05:26 PM   #42
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Ukrainian railways is even badder then romanians
not at all, they just need to change some rolling stock.
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Old October 25th, 2010, 12:58 PM   #43
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hahaha,you are joking,no?All ukrainian trains and assets are russian design and all your trains looks like you wanna puke
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Old October 26th, 2010, 03:23 AM   #44
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Is something will be made specially for Euro 2012 ? A special cities hosts services for example ?
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Old November 3rd, 2010, 03:27 AM   #45
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Here You go.

Date: 2.11.2010
Memorandum signed on purchase of Hyundai high-speed trains for EURO 2012

A protocol of intention was signed yesterday in the city of Changwon (South Korea) on the Ukrainian government's intention to buy 6 high-speed trains from the South Korean company Hyundai.

Ukrainian Vice Prime Minister Borys Kolesnikov signed the protocol on behalf of the Ukrainian side, who heads the delegation on talks about the purchase of trains, a correspondent of the Information centre Ukraine-2012 reports from Changwon. During EURO 2012 this trains will cover the Kyiv-Donetsk, Kyiv-Lviv and Kyiv-Kharkiv routes. They will eventually connect other Ukrainian cities.

The maximum speed is 180 km per hour, which will enable travel time between host cities to be cut by a third. The time to travel from Kyiv to Donetsk will be cut from 12 to 8 hours and from Kyiv to Kharkiv from 6 to 4 and from Kyiv to Lviv from 6.5 hours to 5 hours. As a rule, these trains will consist of 6 coaches: three class I (42—48 passengers) and three class ІІ (64—68 passengers). One train can take up to 368 passengers.

According to preliminary calculations, the price of tickets will be comparable to those which exist today between host cities. Hyundai trains do not require special rails and are completely adapted to Ukrainian rail track.

Information centre “Ukraine-2012”
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Old November 4th, 2010, 09:18 AM   #46
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This map ilustrates history of ukrainian railways development


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Or, more properly, "History of railway development in Ukraine". Some of the lines were not developed by Ukraine, correct?

(This is not meant to start a troll-like discussion, but to keep facts straight.)
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Old November 4th, 2010, 10:42 PM   #47
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Here You go.

Date: 2.11.2010
Memorandum signed on purchase of Hyundai high-speed trains for EURO 2012

A protocol of intention was signed yesterday in the city of Changwon (South Korea) on the Ukrainian government's intention to buy 6 high-speed trains from the South Korean company Hyundai.

Ukrainian Vice Prime Minister Borys Kolesnikov signed the protocol on behalf of the Ukrainian side, who heads the delegation on talks about the purchase of trains, a correspondent of the Information centre Ukraine-2012 reports from Changwon. During EURO 2012 this trains will cover the Kyiv-Donetsk, Kyiv-Lviv and Kyiv-Kharkiv routes. They will eventually connect other Ukrainian cities.

The maximum speed is 180 km per hour, which will enable travel time between host cities to be cut by a third. The time to travel from Kyiv to Donetsk will be cut from 12 to 8 hours and from Kyiv to Kharkiv from 6 to 4 and from Kyiv to Lviv from 6.5 hours to 5 hours. As a rule, these trains will consist of 6 coaches: three class I (42—48 passengers) and three class ІІ (64—68 passengers). One train can take up to 368 passengers.

According to preliminary calculations, the price of tickets will be comparable to those which exist today between host cities. Hyundai trains do not require special rails and are completely adapted to Ukrainian rail track.

Information centre “Ukraine-2012”
Thank, you. It was easy to guess.

But at 180km/h, those are not high speed trains. Only rapid or fast trains.
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Old December 21st, 2010, 10:01 PM   #48
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hahaha,you are joking,no?All ukrainian trains and assets are russian design and all your trains looks like you wanna puke
Thats nothing. compare it with problems of Romanian railways.
Massive layoffs, summed delay in 2009 was 3 years (sick!), and huge financial losses.

"The Global Competitiveness Report 2010-2011" ranked Romanian railways on 70th place. Ukrainian railways are on 25th! In addition they achived profitability in 2009 of 35mln Euro.
In short, today Romanian rail works much much worse than its northern neighbor.



http://www.weforum.org/reports/globa...10-2011-0?fo=1
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Old December 21st, 2010, 10:43 PM   #49
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Thats nothing. compare it with problems of Romanian railways.
Massive layoffs, summed delay in 2009 was 3 years (sick!), and huge financial losses.

"The Global Competitiveness Report 2010-2011" ranked Romanian railways on 70th place. Ukrainian railways are on 25th! In addition they achived profitability in 2009 of 35mln Euro.
In short, today Romanian rail works much much worse than its northern neighbor.



http://www.weforum.org/reports/globa...10-2011-0?fo=1
yeah,right.In Romania we have large investments in the railway sector.Only the romanian state company have major capital problem's becouse of bad management.The private companies ended the year of 2009 on profit.Keep dreaming dear friend.............
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Old December 22nd, 2010, 01:07 AM   #50
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yeah,right.In Romania we have large investments in the railway sector.Only the romanian state company have major capital problem's becouse of bad management.The private companies ended the year of 2009 on profit.Keep dreaming dear friend.............
You've answerd one problem. OK so what about huge delays. Did they disappeared suddenly. from day to day?. I doubt that "The Global Competitiveness Report 2010-2011" lies. Polish railway(pos. 62) is just tragic at that point . so we have a lot in common my friend.

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Old December 22nd, 2010, 01:55 PM   #51
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You've answerd one problem. OK so what about huge delays. Did they disappeared suddenly. from day to day?. I doubt that "The Global Competitiveness Report 2010-2011" lies. Polish railway(pos. 62) is just tragic at that point . so we have a lot in common my friend.
I said that the most problem's and delays belong to the romanian state company.They have no target for the future and a very bad management.Becouse is the biggest railway company in romania they have huge delays and appears on your report....
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Old December 22nd, 2010, 06:50 PM   #52
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This report ranks general quality of rail infrastructure. nevermind.

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Old December 27th, 2010, 02:08 AM   #53
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"Ukraine railways in 2010 is predicting a net profit in the sum of 600 million UAH. (about 60 mln EUR)"

so we have another example of the national railway, which can be profitable

http://www.uz.gov.ua/index.php?f=Doc....0.news&lng=uk

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Old December 27th, 2010, 02:42 PM   #54
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Or, more properly, "History of railway development in Ukraine". Some of the lines were not developed by Ukraine, correct?

(This is not meant to start a troll-like discussion, but to keep facts straight.)
Sorry, my mistake

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"Ukraine railways in 2010 is predicting a net profit in the sum of 600 million UAH."

so we have another example of the national railway, which can be profitable

http://www.uz.gov.ua/index.php?f=Doc....0.news&lng=uk
Indeed yes, therefore I hope that Ukraine railways will do smart investment with this profit in railway and rolling stock.
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Old January 2nd, 2011, 06:47 PM   #55
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hello, everybody!
if you wanna see more of ukrainian railways you can go to this link:
http://parovoz.com/newgallery/?&LNG=...-1&HOWMANY=192
just go down the page, there you can chose the region from the list, look for ukraine and enjoy. the new photos come daily.
this link:http://www.bueker.net/trainspotting/...ne/ukraine.gif is the map of ukrainian railroads in english with specification of electricity type, single or double-track, etc.
for those who don't know:
passenger trains run at 120 km/h max and 70-80 km/h average
rapid trains (so called ''expresses'') run at 140 km/h max and 90-100 average
there is a potential to reach 160-180 km/h max and 100-120 average on main directions.
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Old March 8th, 2011, 02:57 PM   #56
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Animated map of the passenger trains

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Old March 8th, 2011, 03:13 PM   #57
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rapid train "Stolichnyi express" Kyiv - Dnipropetrovsk





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new colors. !!! so beautiful. so sweet.
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Old June 27th, 2011, 10:19 PM   #59
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Design of new trainsets to be produced by Hyundai and delivered in March 2012 was revealed last week





















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