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Old November 23rd, 2010, 11:39 AM   #21
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koita, mporei na min grafw syxna sta forums alla diavazw ola osa grafontai. An eixa ton xrono tha sou evaza dika sou arthra ek diametrou antitheta, arthra pou tin mia lene to ena kai tin alli lene to antitheto (analoga gia pia poli milas).

Kapote tha efkairisw kai tha sou ta parathesw (yposxesi einai afto).
e parakato to eipa auto. so what? otan agorazonte ktiria se key possitions kai mikra kai 3odeuonte ekatomiria ti simainei auto? e3ipireta tin poli i ton fititi? pou tin stigmi pou yparxi enalaxtiki lisi ligo pio e3o. afou den yparxoun alla ktiria katallia ennen anagki me to zori na agorazonte mikra apla gia na ftiaxti to kentro. simainei to balance ton money investment paei 70% poli kai 30% fititis.
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Old November 23rd, 2010, 11:45 AM   #22
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Ma den eimai edw gia na sou anoiksw polemo - sorry an katalaves kati tetoio. Apla sou parathetw ta dika sou grapta pou den tiroun ta idia metra kai stathma gia orismena pramata. Nomizw eimoun ksekatharos se afta pou elega kai sigoura egw den milisa gia ta diafora kosti pou eferes twra tin kouventa.

Episis mou les oti DEN MPOREI O KATHE NEOS USER NA ERXETAI NA LEEI OTI KATHGOREIS THN LEMESO. Mipws na ksanakoitakseis ti egrapsa kai na kaneis edit kai pali?
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Re trimiklini men pianneste synexeia re koumpare oi lemesianoi. Eparatheses pio pano kati pou eipe o andreas gia to TEPAK sto opoio oxi mono ego alla kai polloi alloi apo alles poleis, symperilambanomenon kai lemesianon, esynfonisan. En ontos ena thema to pos xrisimopoiei ta kondylia to TEPAK tzai nai egraftike polles fores ston typo. Dostou akoma 1-2 xronia pou enna mpei mesa i geniki elektria tzaienna doume ti akribos ginete se touto to thema...

H kritiki en kaloproereta pou ginete sti sintriptiki pleiopsifia ton periptoseon, pistepse me to idio tha elean oi parapano an ethorousan to UCY na gorazei mian trypa stin arxi tis ledras tzai mia sti mesi tis onasagorou gia paradeigma.

Oso gia tes sxoles re file dosmou ena logo giati efye i nosileutiki sxoli pou tin leukosia tin stigmi pou kai ktirio kainourgio eixe gia na stegastei, alla kai ekolla polla pio kala na en mazi me tin iatriki sxoli -> touto giati to parablepeis?

H kypros eshei 15-20,000 foitites sto eksoteriko, kate enena to TEPAK tha eprepe na ertei na kalipsei tomeis kai na dimiourgisei sxoles pou den ypirxan sti kypro tzai pistepse me eshei apeira antikeimena pou aptontai tis texnologias. En eukoli lysi na briskoume kati etoimo, stimeno tzai apaitoume na to piasoume. Etsi en pame mprosta!

Touto pou xreiazoumeste einai dimiourgiki skepsi, analusi tis agoras kai sostos programmatismos gia to pou theloume na pame san Kypros kai san oikonomia tzai oxi na bouroume na ta kamoume oulla monomias!
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Ma kai gw symfwnw oti eginan (kai ginontai spatales), afto einai kati pou prepei na dierevnithei. Oute symfonw gia tin nosileftiki kai anarotioumai pou eidete etsi diafonies apo mena - nomizw telika einai eseis pou pernete tin sizitisi ekei pou thelete, opws thelete. Ksanadiavaste kai an katalavete to point mou, ksanamilame !!
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Ma kai gw symfwnw oti eginan (kai ginontai spatales), afto einai kati pou prepei na dierevnithei. Oute symfonw gia tin nosileftiki kai anarotioumai pou eidete etsi diafonies apo mena - nomizw telika einai eseis pou pernete tin sizitisi ekei pou thelete, opws thelete. Ksanadiavaste kai an katalavete to point mou, ksanamilame !!
e kalipseme o dimitris, an eginountan oi idies lathos epiloges kai se kapia alli poli ta idia pramata tha elea. pros to paron den egine tpt kapou allou kati paromio kai na pis oti simbenei kai ekei kai oti pezo pello kai den to lambano ypopsi.
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EGW AFTO EGRAPSA :

Twra les oti i palia Lefkosia xreiazetai mia sxoli kalwn texnwn sto kentro. Pws tha eksipiretisei afto tous foitites (opws grafeis pio panw) na talaiporountai sto kentro tis polis pou kata geniki paradoxi einai egklovismeni sto kykloforiako xaos?? Gia tous foitites to kaneis H gia tin poli? Kai giati se peirazei to TEPAK sto kentro tis polis alla theleis na ginei to idio stin Lefkosia?


ESEIS TO PIRATE SE COSTS, NOSHLEFTIKH KAI (TYPICAL) ANTIPARATHESI LEMESOU LEFKOSIAS KLP.

Opotan, egw to stamatw mia kai eite den katalavate ti lew, eite den thelete na katalavete ti lew.
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EGW AFTO EGRAPSA :

Twra les oti i palia Lefkosia xreiazetai mia sxoli kalwn texnwn sto kentro. Pws tha eksipiretisei afto tous foitites (opws grafeis pio panw) na talaiporountai sto kentro tis polis pou kata geniki paradoxi einai egklovismeni sto kykloforiako xaos?? Gia tous foitites to kaneis H gia tin poli? Kai giati se peirazei to TEPAK sto kentro tis polis alla theleis na ginei to idio stin Lefkosia?


ESEIS TO PIRATE SE COSTS, NOSHLEFTIKH KAI (TYPICAL) ANTIPARATHESI LEMESOU LEFKOSIAS KLP.

Opotan, egw to stamatw mia kai eite den katalavate ti lew, eite den thelete na katalavete ti lew.

afou sou apantisa se auto, ti theleis perissotero? afisa kati piso? kai den katalaveno ego idios giati theoris oti yparxi antiparathesi epidi fernoume to thema tis nosileutikis? to cost en simantikos paragontas, idios otan to xrhmata 3odeuonte dipla gia diples sxoles dipla ktiria kai to pio akreo na einai kai akatallila kai xeirotera apo ta proigoumena pou ekanan host kapies sxoles. auto onomazete proodos?


kala re ego eipa oti epidi en sto palio kentro tis lemesou den e3ipireta tous fitities? auto pou sizitousame xthes einai oti agorastikan akatallila ktiria kai oti oi sxoles en para polles gia to palio kentro kai den mboroun na kalipsoun tis anagkes pollon fititon, metafrazoumenta opos theloume? eipa ego pirazime to tepak sto kentro tis polis? kyrie leison, ekatalave kanenas tpt etsi? esizitousame tin epistoli tou antwni loizou pou anaferotan oti to tepak den mbori me liga logia na vali oles tis sxoles sto palio kentro kai prepei na bgei kai ektos.

mia sxolh e3ipireta kai ta palia kentra kai tous fitites an yparxoun oi katalliles ypodomes kai na ginete kai to sosto balancing.

o dhmos eidi troxodroma tin dimiourgia mikron leoforion (nicosia shuttles) pou tha enonoun to panepistimio kai tis esties me tin palia poli, kai genika olo to kentro. to palio kentro episis exei polla spitia, diamerismata kai o fititis oute kan tha fefkei apo ekei. oso gia tous allous sigoura tha pernoun apo traffic, opos pernoun se oles tis polis gia na pan kapou.

tora mia sxolh ton 500 atomon max, pos tha pni3i tin palia poli en a3io aporias. idi i palia poli exei to 1/5 ton katikon pou mbori na filo3enisi dioti ta parapano en ofkera. sigoura 2000+ fitites den mbori na tous e3ipiretisi opos en simera i katastasi, tote tha gini panikos. sto mellon an pezodromopihthi i poli kai ginoun perimetrika parking kai kales sigkinonies tote einai eukolo. sigoura an kanoun ta idia lathi kai lefkosia tha krinoume to idio.

ma an thorite 1-2 posts kai oxi ola, kai petaseste kai lete vasi enos post tote na men simmetexete, dete oles tis sizitisis kai meta na grafete katigories.

opios thelei allos as to eipe mazi me ton ypourgo paideias. yparxoun diadikasies kai meletes pou prepei na lifthoun ypopsi, tis opies etimase to kathe panepistimio, an leei o kathenas ti gnomi tou kai to simferon tou tote den tha fkoume pouthena.

anw afou tha ginoun 2 analogos ton sxolon.

kai o dimitris auto, sto sinolo tous sou apantoun sto erotima sou.

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Re trimiklini men pianneste synexeia re koumpare oi lemesianoi. Eparatheses pio pano kati pou eipe o andreas gia to TEPAK sto opoio oxi mono ego alla kai polloi alloi apo alles poleis, symperilambanomenon kai lemesianon, esynfonisan. En ontos ena thema to pos xrisimopoiei ta kondylia to TEPAK tzai nai egraftike polles fores ston typo. Dostou akoma 1-2 xronia pou enna mpei mesa i geniki elektria tzaienna doume ti akribos ginete se touto to thema...

H kritiki en kaloproereta pou ginete sti sintriptiki pleiopsifia ton periptoseon, pistepse me to idio tha elean oi parapano an ethorousan to UCY na gorazei mian trypa stin arxi tis ledras tzai mia sti mesi tis onasagorou gia paradeigma.

Oso gia tes sxoles re file dosmou ena logo giati efye i nosileutiki sxoli pou tin leukosia tin stigmi pou kai ktirio kainourgio eixe gia na stegastei, alla kai ekolla polla pio kala na en mazi me tin iatriki sxoli -> touto giati to parablepeis?

H kypros eshei 15-20,000 foitites sto eksoteriko, kate enena to TEPAK tha eprepe na ertei na kalipsei tomeis kai na dimiourgisei sxoles pou den ypirxan sti kypro tzai pistepse me eshei apeira antikeimena pou aptontai tis texnologias. En eukoli lysi na briskoume kati etoimo, stimeno tzai apaitoume na to piasoume. Etsi en pame mprosta!

Touto pou xreiazoumeste einai dimiourgiki skepsi, analusi tis agoras kai sostos programmatismos gia to pou theloume na pame san Kypros kai san oikonomia tzai oxi na bouroume na ta kamoume oulla monomias!
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btw to ktirio tis olympiakis epitropis me ti lefta ektistike?
xorigia apo to olympic comitte?
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btw to ktirio tis olympiakis epitropis me ti lefta ektistike?
xorigia apo to olympic comitte?
me ta idia lefta pou ktistike to GSO sigoura kapia xorigia tha ypirxe.

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Το Ολυμπιακό Μέγαρο, το οποίο θα κοστίσει πέντε εκατομμύρια λίρες, θα είναι έτοιμο για να στεγάσει όλες τις αθλητικές ομοσπονδίες, εκτός του ποδοσφαίρου, το ερχόμενο φθινόπωρο.

Περιλαμβάνει, μεταξύ άλλων, αίθουσες συνεδριάσεων, βιβλιοθήκη, αίθουσα πολλαπλών χρήσεων εξοπλισμένη με όλα τα σύγχρονα οπτικοακουστικά μέσα, εκθεσιακούς χώρους και θεματικό πάρκο.

Ο Πρόεδρος της Δημοκρατίας δήλωσε ότι για την ανέγερση του κτιρίου η Κυβέρνηση έχει παραχωρήσει κρατική γη, ενώ ο Κυπριακός Οργανισμός Αθλητισμού έχει καλύψει σημαντικό μέρος της δαπάνης.

Σε ομιλία του ο πρόεδρος της Κυπριακής Ολυμπιακής Επιτροπής και μέλος της Διεθνούς Ολυμπιακής Επιτροπής, Κίκης Λαζαρίδης, ανέφερε ότι στο ολυμπιακό μέγαρο και πάρκο θα βρίσκεται όλη η αθλητική οικογένεια, θα είναι το σπίτι του αθλητισμού και σε αυτό το χώρο θα πάλλεται η καρδιά του αθλητισμού και του ολυμπισμού.
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"ο Κυπριακός Οργανισμός Αθλητισμού έχει καλύψει σημαντικό μέρος της δαπάνης"

peripou 8+ekat euro ta 5 ekat lires?
ke se kratiki gi pou dothike dwrean....

ke tosa xronia en ediousan na gini ena gipedo stin lemeso(koa) molis ta sasan oula nic twra dioun

-ke Ολυμπιακού Μεγάρο se xwra pou den exi oute ena metalio stous olympiakous? mia pio mikri lisi ke se pio mikri ektasi thatan better ke ta cach o koa na ta dian ke alou,ti kanoun etimazoun to fakelo gia tin ipopsifiaotita analipsis ton agwnwn?
oi apla kathounte mesa,opote thelis piene ston KOA ke vgale me psefti.

-ke o koa apo pou piani ta lefta tou?
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"ο Κυπριακός Οργανισμός Αθλητισμού έχει καλύψει σημαντικό μέρος της δαπάνης"

peripou 8+ekat euro ta 5 ekat lires?
ke se kratiki gi pou dothike dwrean....

ke tosa xronia en ediousan na gini ena gipedo stin lemeso(koa) molis ta sasan oula nic twra dioun

-ke Ολυμπιακού Μεγάρο se xwra pou den exi oute ena metalio stous olympiakous? mia pio mikri lisi ke se pio mikri ektasi thatan better ke ta cach o koa na ta dian ke alou,ti kanoun etimazoun to fakelo gia tin ipopsifiaotita analipsis ton agwnwn?
oi apla kathounte mesa,opote thelis piene ston KOA ke vgale me psefti.

-ke o koa apo pou piani ta lefta tou?
e kala re file tora paralogizese, valis kato kai krinis oikonomika ta erga pou eginan lefkosia. kai 3anarotose to GSO pios to ekame? kai tin gh pios tin edwse?

ennen gia tous olympiakous apoklistika pou egine re file
"Το Ολυμπιακό Μέγαρο, το οποίο θα κοστίσει πέντε εκατομμύρια λίρες, θα είναι έτοιμο για να στεγάσει όλες τις αθλητικές ομοσπονδίες, εκτός του ποδοσφαίρου, το ερχόμενο φθινόπωρο."

istera lete pos kamnoume sigkrisis, pos ekatali3ame dame dld tora?

oso afora to ghpediko afou o KOA tha sas ekamne, apla ithele o kathenas to diko tou kai na diamirastoun ta lefta. stin lefkosia o KOA den ekame ghpedo apo to kairo tou makariou. dld tora prepei na erti i lefkosia na apetisi ta 16ek pou tha dosi o koa? kai vazo stixima oti meta pou tha teliosoun ta ghpeda apollona kai ael, ari. tha erthoun kapioi na apetoun pale apo ton KOA na tou sasi to tsirio.
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"για να στεγάσει όλες τις αθλητικές ομοσπονδίες, εκτός του ποδοσφαίρου"
ne den eginetoun me kati pio economic?
fisika eginetoun,ala prepi na kamoume oso pio akrivo mporoume stin nic....

stin lemeso to tsirio enen o koa pou to ekame anyway.eki sto makario exi ke klisto ke i omospondia tennin exi gipedo ke ala pramata?
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"για να στεγάσει όλες τις αθλητικές ομοσπονδίες, εκτός του ποδοσφαίρου"
ne den eginetoun me kati pio economic?
fisika eginetoun,ala prepi na kamoume oso pio akrivo mporoume stin nic....

stin lemeso to tsirio enen o koa pou to ekame anyway.eki sto makario exi ke klisto ke i omospondia tennin exi gipedo ke ala pramata?
5ek itan akrivo dld? kamnoume kai arxitektoniki, ti enna kamnoume pellares dld na exoun lifespan 4-5 xronia? ama enna stegasis tosa somatia kai alla tosa grafia.5ek itan mia xara.

e stelio calm down, tis parapano athlitikes klistes aithouses exeites i lemesos.

to tsirio en o koa pou to ekame tin gh en o tsiros pou tin edwse.

nomizo den vlepete ti exete kai ekollise i velona sas lefkosia.

anw, na men thimiso ta 300ek pou apepsase o xristou gia tin lemeso prin figi apo to ypourgeio essoterikon gia erga stin lemeso. etsimetose tin dimarxeia kan prin vali gia dimarxos tote. rota opion politikanti theleis na sou to pei, opioidipote kommatos. ta lefta auta proorizontan kai gia alles polis.

e stelio den kataligoume pouthena me auti tin sigkrisi.
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Gia to thema gipedou sti Lemeso egraftikan 1000 fores ta idia pramata. An ftaiei kapoios gia to oti sti lemeso to tsireio enna ppesei tzai akoma paizoun agones protathlimatos protista einai oi omades tis Lemesou pou ftaisin.
O KOA eipe tous synfoniste gia ena koino gipedo tzai tha sas to kamo dorean tzai tha sas to doso alla pale arnithikan oi omades na to kamoun touto. Tzai gia na eimaste tzai akribeis gia touto o KOA den ekame se kamia ma kamia omada gipedo. Xorigies epiasan ta prosfygika somatia (kapoia arketa lefta px anorthosi) alla touto pou eprotine o KOA gia ti Lemeso itan proti fora pou eginetoun. Diladi ktizo sas gipedo tzai grafo to pano sas!

To mono gipedo podosfairou pou ekame o KOA sti Leukosia en to Makario pou en gipedo toy 1977 nomizo (pio palio pou to tsireio).To Neo GSP den to ekame o KOA alla o GSP otan epoulise to palio GSP sto kratos tzai exrimatodotise ena megalo meros tou kataskeuastikou kostous. Kati tetoio mporouse na ginei kai sti lemeso me ton GSO pou einai o idioktitis toy Tsireiou an kai i gi ekei den exei tin idia aksia tou paliou GSP pou einai tellia kentro tis polis.

To Neo GSP sti Leukosia douleukei san mia epixeirisi stin opoia ta somatia tis polis plironnoun ena sebasto pososto tou eisitiriou ton agonon toys pros ton idioktiti toy gipedou gia to xrisimopoioun. Touto fernei kerdos ston GSP o opoios tou xronou ksekina kai epektasi tis anatolikis kerkidas i opoia tha auksisei ti xoritikotita apo 24,000 pou einai simera se 30,000.
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touta eipamenta 100 fores file dimitri. gia tin katantia tis lemesou se orismena themata ftene oi idioi, sto telos paraponiounte kai pernoun kai perissotera. i sinithis taxtiki me ftextin tin parapliroforisi.
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O KOA eipe tous synfoniste gia ena koino gipedo tzai tha sas to kamo dorean tzai tha sas to doso alla pale arnithikan oi omades na to kamoun touto. Tzai gia na eimaste tzai akribeis gia touto o KOA den ekame se kamia ma kamia omada gipedo. Diladi ktizo sas gipedo tzai grafo to pano sas!
File mou, fefkoun sou touta oksa skeftese ta prota??
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"για να στεγάσει όλες τις αθλητικές ομοσπονδίες, εκτός του ποδοσφαίρου"
ne den eginetoun me kati pio economic?
fisika eginetoun,ala prepi na kamoume oso pio akrivo mporoume stin nic....

stin lemeso to tsirio enen o koa pou to ekame anyway.eki sto makario exi ke klisto ke i omospondia tennin exi gipedo ke ala pramata?
Re file ta gipeda ton syllogon stivou opos to Palio GSP, to Tsirio, to GSZ, to Pafiako klp en me lefta tou KOA pou eginan. H moni ekseresi itan o GSP o opoios emeine me to palio GSP kai den eixe idioktito gipedo diko toy afou to Makario os gnoston ypagete apeutheias ston KOA. O GSP pou monos tou epie esxediase to project, ekame ti sinfonia gia metabibasi tis gis sto kratos, tis sinfonies me ta 3 somatia gia na xrisimopoioun to gipedo tzai eksekinise douleia. H diafora tou GSP pou ton GSO dame itan oti o GSP tote eixe anthropous me orama oi opoioi esxediasan ena project to opoio itan biosimo kai autoxrimatodotoumeno afou ekame ti sinfonia me ta somatia na to xrisimopoioun tzai en ekartera to kratos na ertei na ton rotisei an thelei na tou kamei gipedo.

To Makario eipame en tou KOA kai oi egkatastaseis ekei einai gia tis ethnikes omades arketon athlimaton. Sti Lemeso egine to kalytero kleisto pou egine pote sti Kypro "to Spyros Kyprianou", na arkepsoun na klain oi alles poleis giati na ginei sti Lemeso dld? Sobara en katalambaino ti logiki!
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gia tin katantia tis lemesou se orismena themata ftene oi idioi, sto telos paraponiounte kai pernoun kai perissotera. i sinithis taxtiki me ftextin tin parapliroforisi.
nice.... very nice ....

Gia katantia e ????
Gia parapliroforisi e ???

Very very nice .....
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touta eipamenta 100 fores file dimitri. gia tin katantia tis lemesou se orismena themata ftene oi idioi, sto telos paraponiounte kai pernoun kai perissotera. i sinithis taxtiki me ftextin tin parapliroforisi.
ok piani i lemesos perisotero...neo prama1

to oti den iparxoun koumparistikes sxesis sta ypourgia/kivernisis pou omws vriskonte stin nic ke den epireazi tpt auto,neoprama2....
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nice.... very nice ....

Gia katantia e ????
Gia parapliroforisi e ???

Very very nice .....
e kala pou eides to lathos?

katantia ton ghpedon ennow

parapliroforisi osa afora to pou xrimatodoti o KOA.

ma an den mboreite na sizitite re pedkia peteto na men to kamnoume. den exo kanena simferon.
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