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Old December 1st, 2010, 07:19 PM   #381
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Obviously the Chinese have had a huge leg up from the European train manufacutrers, but their progress has been fantastic since then.

I guess for China the speed is a premium. In the UK i know it is not really worthwhile having a line in excess of 400kph as distances between destinations is not that great, but given the size of China, having a 500kph traim could be the difference between sucess or failure on long distance routes.
You're right. The countries that do have advanced HSR technologies (Japan, France and Germany) are not large enough to have the need to really boost the speed. Plus they either have to utilize the existing lines or have laid their tracks for lower speed limit for various reasons.

China is a completely different story. It has the size and therefore the need; it builds on such a large scale and from scratch and therefore can build brand new infrastructure (much of the new Chinese HSR are built on elevated bridge and have much larger track radius). For all these reasons, it's no wonder we see the Chinese are making huge and rapid progress.

It's really exciting to watch and follow the HSR development in China.
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Old December 1st, 2010, 10:15 PM   #382
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China is the only place the world where the most can come out of HSR. The US could do it but doesn't have the political, economic, and cultural will. Just look at it this way. When Shanghai opened the maglev train to the public, I actually heard a radio talk show host in the US furiously angry over it. It was a German made train that was bought so why would he be angry? It's because China who he looked at as inferior should not be allowed to have anything that anyone superior doesn't have. That was simply it. Which is why you have so many trolls coming into here trying to turn lemons into lemonade with their stereotypes to lessen China's achievements. China is planning to export HSR to countries where never before had those luxuries because they could never afford it from the West. Can you imagine the volcanic explosion when more inferiors get what the superiors don't have? Makes you wonder if China discovered a cure for cancer, would they dare to be angry about it?
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Old December 1st, 2010, 11:09 PM   #383
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its nice to have thousands of engineers working for you for slightly more than a bowl of rice
Skilled professionals are paid quite handsomely in China.
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Old December 1st, 2010, 11:25 PM   #384
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Any news on what speed the 380BL reached?
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Old December 2nd, 2010, 03:07 AM   #385
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CRH380A will start regular service at wuguang PDL tomorrow.CRH380BL will lauch further test at Jinghu HSR at December 4 & 5.
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Old December 2nd, 2010, 05:12 AM   #386
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China is the only place the world where the most can come out of HSR. The US could do it but doesn't have the political, economic, and cultural will. Just look at it this way. When Shanghai opened the maglev train to the public, I actually heard a radio talk show host in the US furiously angry over it. It was a German made train that was bought so why would he be angry? It's because China who he looked at as inferior should not be allowed to have anything that anyone superior doesn't have. That was simply it. Which is why you have so many trolls coming into here trying to turn lemons into lemonade with their stereotypes to lessen China's achievements. China is planning to export HSR to countries where never before had those luxuries because they could never afford it from the West. Can you imagine the volcanic explosion when more inferiors get what the superiors don't have? Makes you wonder if China discovered a cure for cancer, would they dare to be angry about it?
I'm not quite sure that's the case, American high tech institutions and academia are filled with Chinese engineers, nobody with more than high school education will make that association.
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Old December 2nd, 2010, 05:37 AM   #387
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its nice to have thousands of engineers working for you for slightly more than a bowl of rice
The thousands of engineers working on this line on average make more money (on a dollar terms) than an average person in Canada or the United States.

In purchasing power terms, the thousands of engineers working on this line on average would make more than 3 times the average salary in Canada or the United States.


Now take your foot and shove it up your mouth.
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Old December 2nd, 2010, 07:54 AM   #388
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I'm not quite sure that's the case, American high tech institutions and academia are filled with Chinese engineers, nobody with more than high school education will make that association.
You must misunderstood something because never said anything of the sort to make that conclusion or have an idea of the context of your statement.
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Old December 2nd, 2010, 09:44 AM   #389
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The Blue Arrow ran on Guangshen line before CRH1s replaced them in 2006-7. I've been on them a few times. They appear to have been modelled after the imported X2000s that ran Guangshen in the late 1990s and early 2000s. I believe the Blue Arrows have been moved inland to serve on older lines and they seem to run well, being relatively primitive compared to the CRH EMUs.

Unlike the Blue Arrow, experimental trains like the China Star and the Changbaishan (curiously similar to an ICE-3 in appearance) only saw very limited service and none of them are currently in service now.
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Old December 2nd, 2010, 12:02 PM   #390
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Old December 2nd, 2010, 01:49 PM   #391
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Actually, the 475km/h speed appears to have been clocked by an unmodified train-set (CRH380AL), so it does not make much sense to compare it with the French record, which was made with a mega-beefed-up configuration set up for the express purpose of creating a (pretty meaningless) speed record.
It wasn't completely meaningless, the primary purpose of the vehicle was to test distributed traction packages under development by Alstom. Someone then obviously saw the publicity-stunt potential in it, or perhaps it was planned from the start. The actual record attempt was a bit pointless, but the entire project had some purpose. Some
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Old December 2nd, 2010, 02:59 PM   #392
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^ They also did a lot of research into energy use and aerodynamics, which feeds back to regular TGV/AGV. Thousands of km were ran at over 500 km/h.

It was the same with the 1989 one, which lead to the "duplex" nose.
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Old December 2nd, 2010, 06:30 PM   #393
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maybe because it doesn't matter except to a few geeks like you?
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Old December 3rd, 2010, 12:43 AM   #394
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CRH380 test for new speed record live

2010.12.3,CRH380 will set new record at zaozhuaug - beugbu section of Jiughu HSR,10:30,CCTV News Live
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Old December 3rd, 2010, 12:49 AM   #395
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CRH380A or CRH380B? and which configurations?
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Old December 3rd, 2010, 03:55 AM   #396
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test starts, xuzhou-bengbu section,380AL
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Old December 3rd, 2010, 04:33 AM   #397
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now the new record is 486.1KM/h
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Old December 3rd, 2010, 04:40 AM   #398
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now the new record is 486.1KM/h
is this confirmed?
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Old December 3rd, 2010, 04:41 AM   #399
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is this confirmed?
Yes.
http://bbs.ourail.com/thread-92014-3-1.html
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Yes,confirmed, but test not finished yet
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