daily menu » rate the banner | guess the city | one on oneforums map | privacy policy | DMCA | news magazine | posting guidelines

Go Back   SkyscraperCity > European Forums > Forum Polskich Wieżowców > Fotografia > Zagranica



Global Announcement

As a general reminder, please respect others and respect copyrights. Go here to familiarize yourself with our posting policy.


Reply

 
Thread Tools
Old August 24th, 2010, 06:55 PM   #21
wooky
Registered User
 
wooky's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Poz
Posts: 816
Likes (Received): 1

Quote:
Originally Posted by kam1kadze View Post
Zainteresowałem się trochę tematem bo zdziwiła mnie skala wyludnienia się miast po wojnie i okazało się, że jeszcze w 1989 roku w Abchazji mieszkało 525,000 mieszkańców ( z czego 45% to Gruzini), natomiast obecnie ludność wynosi zaledwie 215,000 (z czego 21% to Gruzini). Jeszcze nie spotkałem się z wyludnieniem kraju w takim stopniu.
z tych 250 tys o których napisałeś, w czasie wojny wyjechało/uciekło 200 tysięcy Gruzinów, 30 tysięcy Ormian, 50 tysięcy Rosjan i po około 10 tysięcy Greków i Ukraińców.

Obecnie Abchazję zamieszkują głównie Abchazi - ok 44%, Ormianie - 21%, Gruzini - 20% oraz Rosjanie - ok 11%.
wooky no está en línea   Reply With Quote

Sponsored Links
 
Old August 24th, 2010, 07:44 PM   #22
wooky
Registered User
 
wooky's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Poz
Posts: 816
Likes (Received): 1

Suchumi - stolica Abchazji licząca 43 tysiące mieszkańców (przed wojną ok. 120 tysięcy). Znane jest ze swych sanatoriów, źródeł mineralnych i łagodnego, podzwrotnikowego klimatu. W czasach sowieckich w mieście prowadzono badania nad bronią jądrową jak i również znajdowała się tu sławna stacja hodowli małp


zdjęcia autorstwa: brucatalley, photophoca, Mitya Aleshkovsky, Lilia73, Faranji, Oleg4 (flickr) a także Igor S (panoramio):
image hosted on flickr


image hosted on flickr


image hosted on flickr


















image hosted on flickr


image hosted on flickr


image hosted on flickr


image hosted on flickr


image hosted on flickr


centrum z lotu ptaka:
image hosted on flickr


image hosted on flickr


image hosted on flickr



image hosted on flickr




image hosted on flickr


image hosted on flickr


image hosted on flickr


image hosted on flickr


pozostałości po wojnie:
image hosted on flickr


image hosted on flickr



Last edited by wooky; August 24th, 2010 at 07:53 PM.
wooky no está en línea   Reply With Quote
Old August 24th, 2010, 08:09 PM   #23
kiwi_74
BANNED
 
Join Date: May 2009
Location: Bydgoszcz
Posts: 678
Likes (Received): 0

kiwi_74 no está en línea   Reply With Quote
Old September 4th, 2010, 07:29 PM   #24
sokhum
Registered User
 
Join Date: Sep 2010
Posts: 3
Likes (Received): 0

Pic´s from 2010

Thanks Russia for your help.

Sokhum













sokhum no está en línea   Reply With Quote
Old September 4th, 2010, 07:32 PM   #25
sokhum
Registered User
 
Join Date: Sep 2010
Posts: 3
Likes (Received): 0

outside from sokhum















sokhum no está en línea   Reply With Quote
Old September 4th, 2010, 07:36 PM   #26
sokhum
Registered User
 
Join Date: Sep 2010
Posts: 3
Likes (Received): 0





Thanks Russia! Who has friend like you need no enemy. First I thougt all will be better but now I´m sure that the Kreml will steal our land. Thank you very much. I´m not anymore sure that the Georgians was the real enemy.
sokhum no está en línea   Reply With Quote
Old September 4th, 2010, 09:34 PM   #27
AILD
BANNED
 
Join Date: May 2010
Location: Moscow
Posts: 507
Likes (Received): 6

Quote:
Originally Posted by sokhum View Post
...
LOL you think for 2 years country will become rich just by magic?

What did you do to develop your country?

You think you can sit and wait for Russia's billions?

What other countries helping Abkhazia?

Maybe you didn't notice but Georgia is doing everything to block investitions in Abkhazia. Inlcuding help of US/UK-controlled media, which is demonising Abkhazia and reporting about Georgia like it never existed. They even threatening civillians who are travelling in Abkhazia!

Instead of showing us pictures of destructed house from the past, you could do something useful for your country.

To find friends all over the world and invite them into your country. To create positive image for tourists who want to see old cites.

What production Abkhazia had during Georgia times?

Again, 2 years are not enough. And Abkhazia is sovereign country which must not only live on foreign billions. This is personally to you who are sitting and waiting magic developing.

The first purprose is to make country secure.

Without it, further investitions will be useless.

And first purpose directly depends on Georgian position, with its US masters.

P.S. Are you really Abkhazian Smells like Georgian typical "changing of citizenship" and writing from citizen of targeted country.
AILD no está en línea   Reply With Quote
Old September 4th, 2010, 09:40 PM   #28
AILD
BANNED
 
Join Date: May 2010
Location: Moscow
Posts: 507
Likes (Received): 6

Quote:
Originally Posted by sokhum View Post
You are clearly not Abkhazian. Most probably Georgian.

This is a former Abkhazian parliament which was in fire in 1993 during fights for liberation of Sukhumi.

Don't fool others, propagandist. Say to your boss that he failed.
AILD no está en línea   Reply With Quote
Old September 4th, 2010, 10:55 PM   #29
Kokoity
Abkhazia is georgian
 
Kokoity's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2009
Posts: 4,055
Likes (Received): 333

Quote:
Originally Posted by AILD View Post
LOL you think for 2 years country will become rich just by magic?

What did you do to develop your country?

You think you can sit and wait for Russia's billions?

What other countries helping Abkhazia?

Maybe you didn't notice but Georgia is doing everything to block investitions in Abkhazia. Inlcuding help of US/UK-controlled media, which is demonising Abkhazia and reporting about Georgia like it never existed. They even threatening civillians who are travelling in Abkhazia!

Instead of showing us pictures of destructed house from the past, you could do something useful for your country.

To find friends all over the world and invite them into your country. To create positive image for tourists who want to see old cites.

What production Abkhazia had during Georgia times?

Again, 2 years are not enough. And Abkhazia is sovereign country which must not only live on foreign billions. This is personally to you who are sitting and waiting magic developing.

The first purprose is to make country secure.

Without it, further investitions will be useless.

And first purpose directly depends on Georgian position, with its US masters.

P.S. Are you really Abkhazian Smells like Georgian typical "changing of citizenship" and writing from citizen of targeted country.
AILD don´t be sad. Looks like your "independent" Abchasia friend are not happy with Putin Kremls work. No wonder I will not know how many money is lost in Bagapsh corrupt system.

So who wonder that:

Quote:
Public Support For Moscow's Policies On Abkhazia, South Ossetia Declining
FRIDAY, 03 SEPTEMBER 2010 13:06 WRITTEN BY PAUL GOBLE

Two years after Moscow recognized Abkhazia and South Ossetia, a step the Russian people overwhelmingly backed as a signal that their country could stand up to Georgia and the West, the failure of many other countries to recognize these republics and the high cost of supporting the two new states have combined to reduce public backing for them.

In an article posted online, Mikhail Smilyan says that polls show “ever fewer [Russians] remain support recognition of South Ossetia” and that they are less prepared to continue to provide assistance to that republic (http://www.gzt.ru/topnews/society/-r...ndownfromindex).

Drawing on poll results collected by the All-Russian Center for the Study of Public Opinion (VTsIOM) available at wciom.ru/index.php?id=196&uid=13778, Smilyan notes that fewer Russians are paying attention to the political aspects of Moscow’s decision and more to the actual costs of supporting these republics.

As a result of that shift, he continues, “the number of Russian citizens who believe that Russia behaved correctly by supporting South Ossetia in its conflict with Georgia has significantly declined. In 2009, one year after the conflict, 59 percent of Russians had that view; now, only 38 percent do, a decline of more than 20 percent.

Over the same period, support among Russians for Moscow’s recognition of South Ossetia and Abkhazia has fallen from 59 percent in 2008 to 34 percent today. Moreover, “almost a quarter of the respondents (21 percent) are certain that under certain conditions,” Moscow could end its recognition of the two, almost double the number who believed that a year ago.

And because those conducting the VTsIOM survey asked respondents to specify how committed they were to any particular position – “unqualifiedly yes,” “more yes than no,” etc. – Smilyan argues that that support for recognition has softened “despite the fact that the majority all the same [continues to] approve the recognition of the independence of the two.”

At the same time, Smilyan continues, support for providing assistance to the two states is falling and is now slightly less than half of the percentage backing aid a year ago, 15 percent against 31 percent, quite possibly the result of reports about the large amounts of money Moscow has been offering.

In addition, however, fewer are prepared to support militarily the two than a year ago, possibly an indication of a shift in Russian public opinion but almost certainly the result of declining attention to this issue and the political symbolism of what the Russian Federation did in the Georgian war.

Smilyan puts the most negative reading on the VTsIOM findings, perhaps because he like many of his readers believes that if a polling agency reputed to have close ties to the Kremlin is reporting this, the real shift in public opinion against Moscow’s policies in the North Caucasus may be even greater and hence more significant.

Not surprisingly, VTsIOM itself put the best face on its findings, headlining its story with the assertion that “76 percent of Russians are certain that the decision to recognize the independence of South Ossetia and Abkhazia was correct” but acknowledging that 21 percent suggesting that the decision could be reversed.

Its three other “main” findings, VTsIOM said, were first, that only half of Russians are convinced that the decision about Russian recognition is irreversible, second, that only seven percent of Russians say they pay “regular” attention to developments in these states, and third, that most Russians believe Moscow should extend humanitarian aid rather than anything else.

Shifts in public opinion when people stop thinking about the political meaning of an action and begin focusing on the financial cost are typical. Indeed, they are so common that political leaders opposed to a particular individual or policy try as hard as possible to talk about the price tag of a policy if they want to defeat it.

An example of this that surfaced is a Belarusian television report that the cost of Vladimir Putin’s automobile expedition equals the annual budget of “a small Russian city,” Minsk’s response to Moscow’s attacks on Alyaksandr Lukashenka (For a report on this, see
www.nr2.ru/incidents/298828.html; for the video itself, www.nr2.ru/video/298828.html,)
http://www.eurasiareview.com/2010090...declining.html

Last edited by Kokoity; September 5th, 2010 at 12:06 AM.
Kokoity no está en línea   Reply With Quote
Old September 5th, 2010, 12:56 AM   #30
AILD
BANNED
 
Join Date: May 2010
Location: Moscow
Posts: 507
Likes (Received): 6

I'm not "sad". I'm happy that Abkhazian people can breathe free now without turning their heads everytime when they hear shots.

While you, "Kokoity" (your nick says about your propagandistic work) are sitting in internet with more than 1000 comments, people in Abkhazia must survive after years of "being in Georgia" and constant attacks from Georgian side, kidnapping of citizens, attacking ships, etc.

You should be proud of it.

Just another immoral georgian propagandist. No wonder that Saakashvili fascist need such liars like you.

And I don't even want to waste my time on another georgian liar. I already have big experiance for last 2 years, and can say without doubt - liars will never change their false vision. It's like talking with wall, georgian wall of ignorance.
AILD no está en línea   Reply With Quote
Old September 5th, 2010, 01:16 AM   #31
Voorish-Gdansk
Registered User
 
Voorish-Gdansk's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: Targ Point
Posts: 1,322
Likes (Received): 505

Why don't you two take your political crap out of this topic and find some more appropriate place for these stupid issues that none of us understands and cares?This topic has been created to present pics from Abchazja
Voorish-Gdansk no está en línea   Reply With Quote
Old September 6th, 2010, 10:50 PM   #32
kam1kadze
Registered User
 
kam1kadze's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: Warsaw
Posts: 102
Likes (Received): 52

AILD---> So you should agree that American/ Chineese/ European/ whatever tanks should liberate Chechenya? You're such a hypocrite. During history Russia occupied so many countries, and killed so many innocient peoples that they shouldn't ever be involved in liberating any country, especially Abkhazja. EOT

*I'm sorry if I made a mistakes, but I'm still learning english. Hope that my message is clear.
kam1kadze no está en línea   Reply With Quote
Old September 7th, 2010, 12:13 AM   #33
Maurycy
Dream on!
 
Maurycy's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2006
Location: Toruń,Warszawa
Posts: 1,865
Likes (Received): 603

true, Russia already "liberated" many countries back in the old days so now let it give a break cause maybe some other county would want to liberate...Chechenya just from the top of my head one day. Abchazia is deemed as a vital part of Georgia by the international community and let's stick to that.
EOT
Maurycy no está en línea   Reply With Quote
Old September 8th, 2010, 04:21 PM   #34
shadi001
Registered User
 
Join Date: Oct 2008
Posts: 27
Likes (Received): 0

łał zaczęła sie tu międzynarodowa dyskusja, ale wracając do tematu Abchazji. Chcialem powiedzieć, że jest tam całkiem łatwa możliwośc dojazdu z Soczi. Promik do Gagry odplywa codziennie, tam i z powrotem.
shadi001 no está en línea   Reply With Quote
Old September 10th, 2010, 04:22 PM   #35
vladorlando
BANNED
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: orlando-moscow
Posts: 844
Likes (Received): 22

Quote:
Originally Posted by Coetzee View Post
(Russians interested in independence of small nations- think Chechnya!
Are you real thinking about independence of Chechnya ? I guess 99% chechens not thinking about this now. Every chechen have donation from Russian budget in 12 time more than other russian citizen.

New Grozny . In next 5 year Grozny will have more 50 skyscrapers with 25-40 floors














vladorlando no está en línea   Reply With Quote
Old September 11th, 2010, 04:04 PM   #36
_koriat_
tararam!
 
_koriat_'s Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: Pokraków
Posts: 2,640
Likes (Received): 931

Quote:
Originally Posted by vladorlando View Post



[
OMG
Is this the thrashiest and ugliest skyline in the world, or anywhere there is a worse one?
__________________
Da steh ich nun, ich armer Tor!
Und bin so klug als wie zuvor.

Goethe
[Kraków] Impresje, ekspresje, opowieści
_koriat_ no está en línea   Reply With Quote
Old September 11th, 2010, 09:20 PM   #37
vladorlando
BANNED
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: orlando-moscow
Posts: 844
Likes (Received): 22

Quote:
Originally Posted by _koriat_ View Post
OMG
Is this the thrashiest and ugliest skyline in the world, or anywhere there is a worse one?
This is muslim republik and they re having other understanding about buity
vladorlando no está en línea   Reply With Quote
Old September 12th, 2010, 11:52 AM   #38
_koriat_
tararam!
 
_koriat_'s Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: Pokraków
Posts: 2,640
Likes (Received): 931


Dubai is also muslim, but theirs architecture looks a bit different. Or even new buildings in Baku, or Techeran... Kitsch is only kitsch, christian, muslim - doesn't matter
__________________
Da steh ich nun, ich armer Tor!
Und bin so klug als wie zuvor.

Goethe
[Kraków] Impresje, ekspresje, opowieści
_koriat_ no está en línea   Reply With Quote
Old January 14th, 2011, 09:19 PM   #39
kechxo
Registered User
 
kechxo's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: Tbilisi
Posts: 362
Likes (Received): 37

Quote:
Originally Posted by vladorlando View Post
This is muslim republik and they re having other understanding about buity


I just wonder, buildings need tenants, who will be tennants of so many skyscrapers at once> Gazprom? rossbank? Rossneft? I can't think of any small companies taking part of it..any small CHECHNIAN companies....name a chechnyan company would you? a single chechnnyan company with some prominence.
kechxo no está en línea   Reply With Quote


Reply

Tags
abkhazia

Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off



All times are GMT +2. The time now is 02:15 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8 Beta 1
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
Feedback Buttons provided by Advanced Post Thanks / Like v3.2.5 (Pro) - vBulletin Mods & Addons Copyright © 2014 DragonByte Technologies Ltd.

vBulletin Optimisation provided by vB Optimise (Pro) - vBulletin Mods & Addons Copyright © 2014 DragonByte Technologies Ltd.

SkyscraperCity ☆ In Urbanity We trust ☆ about us | privacy policy | DMCA policy

Hosted by Blacksun, dedicated to this site too!
Forum server management by DaiTengu