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Canuck · February 4th, 2006, 10:56 PM

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Originally Posted by thryve

UT? I want to see it.. can you post it here?

-thryve

The artist asked that it not be posted anywhere but UT, and I'll follow suit.
Even if you're not a member you should be able to view it. Look in the Projects & Construction section.

thryve · February 4th, 2006, 10:58 PM

I have two statements to make. First of all what is UT? I want to go there to see the new Sapphire rendering I hear of.

Secondly.. maybe I'll get eaten alive for saying this. But doesn't anyone else think that the new Sapphire would look good as... (follow the directions

1.) The Citicorp center in NY:
2.) Made into all mint-coloured green glass; replace the horizontal window bands on Citicorp with a slightly different coloured glass or give them metal surrounds or something for some interest on the sides
3.) take away the weird legs at the bottom of Citicorp, for a more normal T.O. base
4.) terrace the angled roof section into glass-fronted balcony terraces
5.) ...and Voila! Something similar to the new design.... but better!

Make fun of me if you dare/wish

but it's an idea that's been stuck in my head since day one of the latest redesign.

-thryve

rapideye95 · February 4th, 2006, 11:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Taller, Better

Well... until we get some concrete info from the horse's mouth we really don't know
what is proposed, or what we can discuss.
My 2 cents again, I'd like to see a rich emerald green glass embedded with gold in a fairly similar way to the Royal Bank glazing, but not nearly so much gold. So, the building would look emerald green from one angle, and as you walk around it it would look almost gold from another angle... I love glass that shifts colour like that.
I know I am dreaming in Technicolour. It will probably be condo-green, which would
be much cheaper.
I am curious why he switched from the sapphire blue idea? Is it true he is going for
an environmentally "green" building? Perhaps in a kitchy, literal way the new green colour is supposed to echo that concept. Weak.

I like this Idea as well...but I'd rather have the old Sapphire back...I mean the dual cylindrical design with 1/2 a sack on the top...with the penis spire for a finish

The Mad Hatter!! · February 4th, 2006, 11:20 PM

ut..click here
http://p083.ezboard.com/ftorontoskys...rt=81&stop=100

Ed007Toronto · February 4th, 2006, 11:20 PM

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First of all what is UT?

UrbanToronto.ca

neilio · February 4th, 2006, 11:26 PM

IM BAAAACK!!!!! I was visiting my dads place in Weston all week and had access to a computer aarrgggh. Well....i like the new design...lack of detail..so what who gived a shit, knowing Cassius he will come up with a much better rendering when he gets the time (a jaw dropping drop dead sexy rendering

) I KNOW this tower will look great beside trump and behind FCP. This tower, Trump and BA center together will look great, and it stays true to a "boxyness" of Toronto in relation to towers such as the Scotia Plaza, In otherwords its not going to be tacky and stick out near as much as the old designs for Sapphire tower would have, and its shorter (73 stories) which means it will look better in the side profile of the skylibe because it wont be such a drastic drop off. I can see city council approving this tower, it deals with the shadowing issue very nicely (73 story's instead of 90+) and the slooped roof will also shorten the shadow ALLOT.

Once cassuis makes a rendering of it looking "real" and along side Trump and FCP then you will all see how nice it will look. There is much the design is lacking and i would have done allot of things differently myself, but this is stinson we are talking about here who is not exactly and architectural genuis...or his "planners" as he calls them, so lets not be to critical.
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valantino · February 5th, 2006, 01:08 AM

Can't believe someone actually mentioned mirrored glass - blech - that stuff shoud stay dead and buried in the eighties

A mullion free, reflective glass curtain wall in place of the typical window wall would be cool

Mauricio Canada · February 5th, 2006, 03:05 AM

http://www.emporis.com/en/bu/nc/ne/?id=101540
Reported by Edward Chamberlain - 2006-02-04

News: Race for Toronto’s tallest over – for now

Toronto: City Hall has put a limit on developer Harry Stinson’s aspirations of challenging the Trump International Hotel & Tower for the title of Toronto’s tallest high-rise, citing adverse shadow effects on Nathan Phillip’s Square as the main reason for reducing the project’s height. As a compromise the tower has been scaled back to 73 floors from 90 (putting it well back of Trump’s proposal despite still having more storeys), and the overall design will be completely revamped once again.

The latest renderings now show the building rising from a more traditional rectangular footprint to a step-terrace style roof. The façade has also gradated from sapphire blue to more of an emerald green, suggesting yet another name change as well. This news surely comes as a disappointment for those hoping to witness a good old fashioned “race for the skies” - though one should not discount the possibility of the previous design resurfacing somewhere else in the city. But for now, watching whether the current building ever actually gets past the planning stages could prove interesting enough in it’s own right.

metroboi_nay · February 5th, 2006, 05:37 AM

Yea I was thinking as soon as I heard Sapphire got shot down again, it lost the race with Trump.. lol.. guess Trump has won in the end.. so far

Hillis · February 5th, 2006, 06:03 AM

Fugly

thryve · February 5th, 2006, 06:11 AM

What do you guys think of my idea? Similar to the new rendering, but better proportions

huh? huh? :P

valantino · February 5th, 2006, 06:22 AM

^LOL

were you possibly looking at the Sapphire elevation when you came up with that idea? (Hey, IMO, your plan sounds exactly like the "latest redesign")

thryve · February 5th, 2006, 06:25 AM

I actually thought that up when I heard that it would have a chiselled top, that is, after I thought up the same idea but cylindrical. (I, at that point, was still under the impression that it was going to be cylindrical.)

Maybe this latest redesign will be along those lines. I guess we need more detailed renderings to know.

-thryve

elliot · February 5th, 2006, 06:11 PM

Another idea I sent to CASS, re: layering.

thryve · February 5th, 2006, 06:16 PM

Call me boring, but I think a flat top like this would be just as nice... would look great with all that layering you've added on the left side.

***Taller, Better*** · February 5th, 2006, 06:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by elliot

Another idea I sent to CASS, re: layering.

Now we're getting somewhere!!!!!!!

elliot · February 5th, 2006, 09:06 PM

double

elliot · February 5th, 2006, 09:06 PM

For the record Thryve, Cass invited suggestions regarding his elevation/massing.

I didn't invite you to slice the top off my effort, OK?

***Taller, Better*** · February 5th, 2006, 10:21 PM

I am very much liking the way this building is shaping up. Nice texture on the sides!
What if the "stepped" parts were gentle curving swoops? This could lead to one
side of the building being either undulating, or having distinct curves..
Just an idea, and it may be a goofy one....

I don't normally like a peak at the top, but in this case it makes perfect sense,
as it is a result of the design, and not just a gratuitous hat perched on top
of a building.
Very nice, guys!

snoopy · February 5th, 2006, 11:02 PM

very beautiful rendering elliot... i love the colour and the gradual steps to the pinnacle. beautiful just beautiful.

if H.S. uses this design i wouldn't at all be dissappointed at this building losing its balls =P

February 4th, 2006, 11:20 PM	#24
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February 4th, 2006, 11:26 PM	#26
neilio lolwut Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Owen Sound Posts: 1,749 Likes (Received): 1	IM BAAAACK!!!!! I was visiting my dads place in Weston all week and had access to a computer aarrgggh. Well....i like the new design...lack of detail..so what who gived a shit, knowing Cassius he will come up with a much better rendering when he gets the time (a jaw dropping drop dead sexy rendering ) I KNOW this tower will look great beside trump and behind FCP. This tower, Trump and BA center together will look great, and it stays true to a "boxyness" of Toronto in relation to towers such as the Scotia Plaza, In otherwords its not going to be tacky and stick out near as much as the old designs for Sapphire tower would have, and its shorter (73 stories) which means it will look better in the side profile of the skylibe because it wont be such a drastic drop off. I can see city council approving this tower, it deals with the shadowing issue very nicely (73 story's instead of 90+) and the slooped roof will also shorten the shadow ALLOT. Once cassuis makes a rendering of it looking "real" and along side Trump and FCP then you will all see how nice it will look. There is much the design is lacking and i would have done allot of things differently myself, but this is stinson we are talking about here who is not exactly and architectural genuis...or his "planners" as he calls them, so lets not be to critical. __________________ __________________ Knowledge talks, wisdom listens.

February 5th, 2006, 03:05 AM	#28
Mauricio Canada Mauricio Canada Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Toronto Posts: 35 Likes (Received): 0	http://www.emporis.com/en/bu/nc/ne/?id=101540 Reported by Edward Chamberlain - 2006-02-04 News: Race for Toronto’s tallest over – for now Toronto: City Hall has put a limit on developer Harry Stinson’s aspirations of challenging the Trump International Hotel & Tower for the title of Toronto’s tallest high-rise, citing adverse shadow effects on Nathan Phillip’s Square as the main reason for reducing the project’s height. As a compromise the tower has been scaled back to 73 floors from 90 (putting it well back of Trump’s proposal despite still having more storeys), and the overall design will be completely revamped once again. The latest renderings now show the building rising from a more traditional rectangular footprint to a step-terrace style roof. The façade has also gradated from sapphire blue to more of an emerald green, suggesting yet another name change as well. This news surely comes as a disappointment for those hoping to witness a good old fashioned “race for the skies” - though one should not discount the possibility of the previous design resurfacing somewhere else in the city. But for now, watching whether the current building ever actually gets past the planning stages could prove interesting enough in it’s own right. __________________ "We shape our buildings therefore they shape us" Winston Churchill Last edited by Mauricio Canada; February 5th, 2006 at 03:13 AM.

February 5th, 2006, 06:03 AM	#30
Hillis Registered User Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Toronto Posts: 519 Likes (Received): 0	Fugly __________________ Canadian Sports Blue Jays Fans Canada at War

February 5th, 2006, 06:11 AM	#31
thryve °°°°°°°°°° Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Toronto Posts: 5,446 Likes (Received): 2	What do you guys think of my idea? Similar to the new rendering, but better proportions huh? huh? :P Last edited by thryve; April 3rd, 2007 at 08:40 PM.

February 4th, 2006, 10:58 PM	#22
thryve °°°°°°°°°° Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Toronto Posts: 5,446 Likes (Received): 2	I have two statements to make. First of all what is UT? I want to go there to see the new Sapphire rendering I hear of. Secondly.. maybe I'll get eaten alive for saying this. But doesn't anyone else think that the new Sapphire would look good as... (follow the directions 1.) The Citicorp center in NY: 2.) Made into all mint-coloured green glass; replace the horizontal window bands on Citicorp with a slightly different coloured glass or give them metal surrounds or something for some interest on the sides 3.) take away the weird legs at the bottom of Citicorp, for a more normal T.O. base 4.) terrace the angled roof section into glass-fronted balcony terraces 5.) ...and Voila! Something similar to the new design.... but better! Make fun of me if you dare/wish but it's an idea that's been stuck in my head since day one of the latest redesign. -thryve

February 5th, 2006, 01:08 AM	#27
valantino The Greatest Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Valhaven Posts: 4,474 Likes (Received): 0	Can't believe someone actually mentioned mirrored glass - blech - that stuff shoud stay dead and buried in the eighties A mullion free, reflective glass curtain wall in place of the typical window wall would be cool

February 5th, 2006, 05:37 AM	#29
metroboi_nay Registered User Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Toronto, Canada Posts: 695 Likes (Received): 0	Yea I was thinking as soon as I heard Sapphire got shot down again, it lost the race with Trump.. lol.. guess Trump has won in the end.. so far

February 5th, 2006, 06:22 AM	#32
valantino The Greatest Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Valhaven Posts: 4,474 Likes (Received): 0	^LOL were you possibly looking at the Sapphire elevation when you came up with that idea? (Hey, IMO, your plan sounds exactly like the "latest redesign")

February 5th, 2006, 06:25 AM	#33
thryve °°°°°°°°°° Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Toronto Posts: 5,446 Likes (Received): 2	I actually thought that up when I heard that it would have a chiselled top, that is, after I thought up the same idea but cylindrical. (I, at that point, was still under the impression that it was going to be cylindrical.) Maybe this latest redesign will be along those lines. I guess we need more detailed renderings to know. -thryve

February 5th, 2006, 06:11 PM	#34
elliot Registered User Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 1,172 Likes (Received): 7	Another idea I sent to CASS, re: layering.

February 5th, 2006, 06:16 PM	#35
thryve °°°°°°°°°° Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Toronto Posts: 5,446 Likes (Received): 2	Call me boring, but I think a flat top like this would be just as nice... would look great with all that layering you've added on the left side.

February 5th, 2006, 09:06 PM	#37
elliot Registered User Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 1,172 Likes (Received): 7	double Last edited by elliot; February 6th, 2006 at 06:25 PM.

February 5th, 2006, 10:21 PM	#39
*Taller, Better* Administrator Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Toronto Posts: 52,742 Likes (Received): 276	I am very much liking the way this building is shaping up. Nice texture on the sides! What if the "stepped" parts were gentle curving swoops? This could lead to one side of the building being either undulating, or having distinct curves.. Just an idea, and it may be a goofy one.... I don't normally like a peak at the top, but in this case it makes perfect sense, as it is a result of the design, and not just a gratuitous hat perched on top of a building. Very nice, guys! __________________ Please visit my photoblog! Montréal \| Mexico \| Niagara-on-the-Lake \| Brazil \| Hamilton aka "The Hammer"! "Fine words butter no parsnips"-17th Century proverb. Last edited by Taller, Better; February 5th, 2006 at 10:26 PM.

February 5th, 2006, 11:02 PM	#40
snoopy kawaii neh? Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Toronto/Hong Kong Posts: 531 Likes (Received): 0	very beautiful rendering elliot... i love the colour and the gradual steps to the pinnacle. beautiful just beautiful. if H.S. uses this design i wouldn't at all be dissappointed at this building losing its balls =P __________________ happiness is a warm puppy... and a 300+metre skyscraper

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