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Old February 21st, 2011, 05:22 PM   #1021
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I like it but it is very classic, nothing extraordinary. Was maybe expecting a little more.
Juve's stadium is great by the way.
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Old February 21st, 2011, 10:13 PM   #1022
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Old February 22nd, 2011, 01:57 AM   #1023
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pal, you should gave them the link! press PLAY guys:

http://www.gsp.ro/fotbal/nationala/i...na-229387.html


it is very nice graphic of Gazeta Sporturilor
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Old February 23rd, 2011, 01:09 PM   #1024
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Why were you expecting more? Is Romania famous for building extraordinary sport facilities, and we didn't know about it?
It is for the Romanian national team... I know I probably can't talk considring Croatia play in the hole Maksimir but if they were to construct a new one for the national team I would be expecting a lot.
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Old February 23rd, 2011, 03:19 PM   #1025
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There is a long way from expectation to reality....
And it's not only Croatia.... There are a lot of countries in Europe (and the world), which don't have a modern, decent national stadium, like Bulgaria, Serbia, Hungary, Slovakia, etc.etc.
So given the fact that Romania is a poor country and there is an economic crisis, i'm glad that the government is spending 170 million euro for this stadium in Bucharest, 45 million for the 31k stadium in Cluj, and another 17 million for a smaller (16k) stadium in Ploiesti.
People here are actually satisfied with the new Lia Manoliu Arnea, and it's strange that a foreigner is "expecting more" form the Romanian authorities, than romanians themselves.
I'm sure if we would have the economic possibilities of Germany, France or England, than this stadium would look more like Wembley and not Commerzbank Arena.
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Old February 24th, 2011, 03:34 AM   #1026
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the government is broke, the municipalities of some cities are pretty rich. the stadiums of U Cluj and the one of Petrolul Ploiesti are built from munipalities' funds. the one from Bucharest is half municipality, half government.

anyway, we started 2011 with small profit each month, so in some months we are official out from crisis.
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Old February 24th, 2011, 04:18 AM   #1027
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well done for Romania.. who is paying for that public or private sector?
sadly Blava cannot cope to build another stadium...due to austerity budget for this year and lack of transparency (corruption) in city public institutions
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Old February 24th, 2011, 11:02 AM   #1028
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the government is broke, the municipalities of some cities are pretty rich. the stadiums of U Cluj and the one of Petrolul Ploiesti are built from munipalities' funds. the one from Bucharest is half municipality, half government.

anyway, we started 2011 with small profit each month, so in some months we are official out from crisis.
Municipalities don't build stadiums(except for Bucharest);the money necessary for Cluj Arena and Petrolul Ploiesti stadiums comes from the County Council + Government.
Bucharest Municipality having the power of a County can build whatever it wants within it's borders because it controls it's own budget whilst Cluj/Ploiesti cities don't control county budgets/regulation and they need approval and finance from above.
And don't kid yourself, the government payed a percentage in all 3 stadiums(and pays still) for them to be built.
They'll all be great to have within the next months;looking forward to going to Lia Manoliu(or whatever it's name will be) for a game/concert.
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Old February 24th, 2011, 01:08 PM   #1029
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are you sure, kamadeva? i thought in Cluj and Ploiesti from cities' funds only. or at least some local guys said that on OLS forum

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well done for Romania.. who is paying for that public or private sector?
sadly Blava cannot cope to build another stadium...due to austerity budget for this year and lack of transparency (corruption) in city public institutions
you mean Trnava city?

can you show us the stadium from there please

on first question, kamadeva already responded you.

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Old February 25th, 2011, 12:04 AM   #1030
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On UEFA.com they say that Steaua will play on the new National Stadium:

"Steaua, European champions in 1986, play their home games at the National Stadium"

Is it realy true?

http://www.uefa.com/uefaeuropaleague...son/index.html
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Old February 25th, 2011, 01:47 AM   #1031
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No way, Steaua plays on their own stadium built in the 70's, it's just a UEFA article written probably by a uninformed journalist.
Teams did use the old stadium to play when their own was under renovations or simply changing the surface.
Dinamo will probably play in the future over there as they have to pay too much money for to the Ministry of Internal Affairs for the old shanty one that does have the advantage of being really well placed in the city. People also are tired of the running tracks and the fact you lose a lot of time to enter the stadium since there's usually 2 or 3 ticket readers.
Of course, Otelul Galati will probably play over there in the Champions League if they win the title this year, for example.

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You are right, Steaua doesent have the huligans that Dinamo has. It is absurd to say that you can even think to compare anything between Steaua and Dinamo.. Steaua has it all
Yeap, that's right.
Thats why journalists and camera mans are beaten up by non-hooligan fans @ Steaua with metal chains or the very civilized non-terrace fans of Steaua cause tension with fascist and racist slogans used in games like v. Ujpest or earlier against a black player from an Irish team. Not to mention how many problems are caused when they are away like in the game v. Rapid this autumn when they attacked home supporters at the main stand and then stopped the game by throwing everything they had on the pitch!
And how they got their asses kicked in 2006 on the Dinamo stadium before, during and after the game by the jandarms ( Dinamo also scored the winner in 90+ ) and then some were saved by the mad cops by handing them Dinamo scarfs so they would be confused on Stefan the Great and Floreasca while hiding like rats under cars and in casino's.
Of course, Dinamo are hooligans because they invaded the running tracks in the Europa League Qualifying, even though nobody was hurt and no acts of violence towards anybody was shown. That gave the team an unprecedented push from the back since it came back from 0-3 at home to qualify away ( still unique in the European Cups, erhm ), something that proved that the teams main problem was giving damn about the game and if they wanted, the could actually do a lot better.
The only not so comforting part in the Dinamo stadium is the South Terrace since it's populated by looking for cheap tickets-people, small groups of fans who are more or less fans til death and the side next to the steps where you always have to watch for rocks and flying torches coming from the rivals, and of course, a lot of people who accidentally end up there because it's always the last place where you find tickets at the derbys.
Every team has their dark faces, but IMO it's much more comforting in the old dirty Dinamo stadium with those people than in Ghencea where even at T0 you find specimens, I can't stop remembering how a young guy got his France NT shirt ripped off like a piece of paper by a fat old gypsy feeling like he's the king of the city...

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Old February 25th, 2011, 02:39 PM   #1032
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are you sure, kamadeva? i thought in Cluj and Ploiesti from cities' funds only. or at least some local guys said that on OLS forum



you mean Trnava city? hehe, Slovakia similar with Transylvania, a lot of castles and the Carpathians.

can you show us the stadium from there please

on first question, kamadeva already responded you.

I think he meant Bratislava
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Old February 25th, 2011, 03:45 PM   #1033
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The British Embassy in Bucharest in cooperation with the Municipality is launching a contest of architecture for urban regeneration in the areas surrounding the stadium.It wiil be interesting to see what kind of projects and ideeas will come out of this.
http://www.prosport.ro/sport-life/sp...-arena-8010949
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Old March 2nd, 2011, 01:31 AM   #1034
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Stadium is in danger after the city council didn't vote for the yearly budget.
If things we're certain just over 2 days ago, the stadium seems to be in danger now as the mayors proposal wasn't accepted and so there's a change there won't be money to finish it.
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Old March 2nd, 2011, 01:03 PM   #1035
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If this stadium won't be built in time and the Europa League 2011 won't be organized here, we'll be the shame of Europe! I feel ashamed! The Romanian politicians are full of shitf! **** them all!
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Old March 2nd, 2011, 03:16 PM   #1036
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If this stadium won't be built in time and the Europa League 2011 won't be organized here, we'll be the shame of Europe! I feel ashamed! The Romanian politicians are full of shitf! **** them all!
no reason to be mad or to cry. there are money but not Oprescu decided but the Council. it is all because of the orange party here, they will come now to save everything to get some more image. political stuff, but people should not forget it is not their project!


anyway, here is the final cost of the stadium, as you see it is more expensive than the one of Frankfurt which was not built from 0 like our; so 234.5 million of euros:

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Old March 2nd, 2011, 03:36 PM   #1037
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no reason to be mad or to cry. there are money but not Oprescu decided but the Council. it is all because of the orange party here, they will come now to save everything to get some more image. political stuff, but people should not forget it is not their project!


anyway, here is the final cost of the stadium, as you see it is more expensive than the one of Frankfurt which was not built from 0 like our; so 234.5 million of euros:

Now I'm asking myself: how much of the final amount is a tip (spaga) in some politicians' pocket? (the hammer-kick is for our "illuminated" politicians! **** them anyway! )
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Old March 2nd, 2011, 03:55 PM   #1038
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Now I'm asking myself: how much of the final amount is a tip (spaga) in some politicians' pocket? (the hammer-kick is for our "illuminated" politicians! **** them anyway! )
You're a funny guy, but leave the "f" word out of SSC. Use it in stadiums or at home.
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the stadiums of U Cluj and the one of Petrolul Ploiesti are built from munipalities' funds.

Is that what you think?
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Old March 2nd, 2011, 07:41 PM   #1040
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Is that what you think?
some guys said on OLS forum.
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